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Ally Is Inhuman. Updated 1/10: New vids vs M2k!!!!! Anther

CaliburChamp

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I sense some jealously towards Ally for those Snakes who are seemingly asking for praise on this thread. It's pathetic. All these new people come out of no where and main Snake, the only reason they are doing good is because they use Snake. I have no respect for any Snake mainers, gamewise, not even Ally, if they used a different character they wouldn't be winning tournaments.
 

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It's pathetic. All these new people come out of no where and main Snake, the only reason they are doing good is because they use Snake. I have no respect for any Snake mainers, gamewise, not even Ally, if they used a different character they wouldn't be winning tournaments.
tldr version: I'm stupid
 

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I sense some jealously towards Ally for those Snakes who are seemingly asking for praise on this thread. It's pathetic. All these new people come out of no where and main Snake, the only reason they are doing good is because they use Snake. I have no respect for any Snake mainers, gamewise, not even Ally, if they used a different character they wouldn't be winning tournaments.
Using snake has nothing to do with being good.

Lots of people use snake and suck, and lots of good snakes lose to lower tier characters.

Noob. >_>
 

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I sense some jealously towards Ally for those Snakes who are seemingly asking for praise on this thread. It's pathetic. All these new people come out of no where and main Snake, the only reason they are doing good is because they use Snake. I have no respect for any Snake mainers, gamewise, not even Ally, if they used a different character they wouldn't be winning tournaments.
I've mained snake all this time, and needless to say i was a n00b and tilted and stuff. It's just gratitude toward Ally, like i said ive played snake all this time but my games been elevated because of ally
 

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I sense some jealously towards Ally for those Snakes who are seemingly asking for praise on this thread. It's pathetic. All these new people come out of no where and main Snake, the only reason they are doing good is because they use Snake. I have no respect for any Snake mainers, gamewise, not even Ally, if they used a different character they wouldn't be winning tournaments.
wasnt ally 3rd on AIB ladder with falcon. lolpwnt
 

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That's basically what you're saying.
Nope, I only have problems with Snakes, because the tournament rules work well with him, like starter stages, Snake doesn't have a bad starter stage, and most tournaments ban most of his counterpick stages. So its just mostly angst to the smash communities rules which help top tier characters win more tournaments.

tldr version: I'm stupid
Your argument fails hard with no explanation.

Using snake has nothing to do with being good.

Lots of people use snake and suck, and lots of good snakes lose to lower tier characters.

Noob. >_>
It does. Example... look on an online ladder, the majority of people who are high on the list main Snake or use him as a back up character. And I can see a good Snake losing to low tier characters, maybe like 5-10% of the time, but thats only because the match up isn't well known since low tiers are not used alot. I hope you feel better now by calling me a n00b. lol.

I've mained snake all this time, and needless to say i was a n00b and tilted and stuff. It's just gratitude toward Ally, like i said ive played snake all this time but my games been elevated because of ally
You, and the majority of people who play Snake. Without Snake, Ally and others wouldn't be winning tournaments. But, thats why you use him, to play to win. I hate to desire to ban a character, but I know, no character deserves a ban.
 

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You can't play a good character and be good guys, it's impossible. This is like mathematic level logic right there.
 

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wasnt ally 3rd on AIB ladder with falcon. lolpwnt
You have to realize, on AiB, you can choose what opponents you want to play. So if your 3rd on the ladder, your skill points won't be as high as some others on the ladders because you mostly played average, or bad players. And I don't recall Ally's placing with Falcon on AiB so I can't really comment much on that.
 

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You can't play a good character and be good guys, it's impossible. This is like mathematic level logic right there.
I'm not saying Ally is a bad player, or any of the other notable Snake players, not at all. I'm just saying Snake is too good of a character with this community obsessing over these so called "neutral stages" that are among Snake's best stage choices because of the flat areas, easy for planting mines, C4, grenades and on platforms, and unmatched stage control.
Ally is very good. I would know, he 2 stocked me in every match. Although, he probably could of 3 stocked me on a neutral stage, since Snake is just too good on those stages. It's also the reason why the SBR changed the name from neutral stages to starter stages, because they realize those stages are not neutral for every character.
 

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I honestly can't tell if he's trolling or just being really stupid =/
 

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some people are that good at being facetious, though <_< being that you play MK I'd assume that you are but you never know with some people.
 

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all i see was that NoJ has a problem with Snakes in general... I remember the day he kept johning to me on that
i still think about those johns i made .... and always wondered how the hell you knew i wasnt gonna win before anything even happened lol
sry i broke my promise


and the TV had a glare on it... if u want mroe johns, there was a crowd tho i just did it for them and said **** it
 

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You, and the majority of people who play Snake. Without Snake, Ally and others wouldn't be winning tournaments.
ive mained snake since brawl came out, not cause hes "broken", albeit there are ppl that do that but you cant take away from ppl who've mained snake/mk from the beginning and win with them.

You're saying "without snake, ally and other wouldnt be winning tournaments".......so ur basically saying for us to go to tournaments and not use our main, that doesn't make sense at all
 

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You have to realize, on AiB, you can choose what opponents you want to play. So if your 3rd on the ladder, your skill points won't be as high as some others on the ladders because you mostly played average, or bad players. And I don't recall Ally's placing with Falcon on AiB so I can't really comment much on that.
Ally finished 1st place in AiB season 1 ladder using exclusively Captain Falcon (the worst character in the game, so don't give me that "he wouldn't win without a broken character" bs), he was 3rd in season 2 ladder then he switched to Snake and now he's 1st again.

AiB's ladder also uses a weighted rating system that makes it so that if you play against bad players or the same players over and over again you get **** for points from winning. http://research.microsoft.com/osa/apg/trueskill.aspx
 

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Ally was never 1st with Captain Falcon.

He was ranked 10th for a period of time with Falcon then upon losing a bet to Tantalus went back to Snake and ***** everyone.

His Falcon is amazing though, close to beating my d3 <.<
 

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Ally finished 1st place in AiB season 1 ladder using exclusively Captain Falcon (the worst character in the game, so don't give me that "he wouldn't win without a broken character" bs), he was 3rd in season 2 ladder then he switched to Snake and now he's 1st again.

AiB's ladder also uses a weighted rating system that makes it so that if you play against bad players or the same players over and over again you get **** for points from winning. http://research.microsoft.com/osa/apg/trueskill.aspx
Get your facts straight before posting. He was never in 1st place using C. Falcon. He is now cause he is using Snake again on the ladder. And I wouldn't call C. Falcon the worst character in the game. I can see C. Falcon move up on the tier list, but will still be low tier. Whoever said that character didn't have combos, lied very badly. Link seems viable for the worst character in brawl.
 

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Ally
Name: You dare bring light to my lair? YOU MUST DIE!
respect for ally +9000

also falcon is pretty bad but not the worst in the game IMO
 

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Yeah Falcon is also too good. I have no respect for anyone that mains Falcon and win tournaments with him, not even Ally!
 

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Ally was 1st using Captain Falcon in Season 1, as in AiB Summer Ladder.

http://allisbrawl.com/fun/badge.aspx?id=139

Reading comprehension ftl.

http://allisbrawl.com/news/newspost.aspx?id=132 - Season 1 results
http://allisbrawl.com/news/newspost.aspx?id=158 - early Season 2 ladder update

From Season 2 ladder update link:
Ally didnt use Captain Falcon first season dude lol. Im pretty active on the ladder and talk to/play Ally frequently.

He used snake in the summer ladder then used C.Falcon for awhile in the Fall ladder and was ranked like 10th until he went back to snake and is 1st.
 

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I'm not saying Ally is a bad player, or any of the other notable Snake players, not at all. I'm just saying Snake is too good of a character with this community obsessing over these so called "neutral stages" that are among Snake's best stage choices because of the flat areas, easy for planting mines, C4, grenades and on platforms, and unmatched stage control.
Ally is very good. I would know, he 2 stocked me in every match. Although, he probably could of 3 stocked me on a neutral stage, since Snake is just too good on those stages. It's also the reason why the SBR changed the name from neutral stages to starter stages, because they realize those stages are not neutral for every character.
ally can play the following characters at high level play, as good as his snake:

Marth
falco
wario
gaw
captain falcon
shiek
meta knight

i know this because i practise with him and his brother
and live near him.

he has skill outside of snake


Ally was never 1st with Captain Falcon.

He was ranked 10th for a period of time with Falcon then upon losing a bet to Tantalus went back to Snake and ***** everyone.

His Falcon is amazing though, close to beating my d3 <.<
qft

Ally didnt use Captain Falcon first season dude lol. Im pretty active on the ladder and talk to/play Ally frequently.

He used snake in the summer ladder then used C.Falcon for awhile in the Fall ladder and was ranked like 10th until he went back to snake and is 1st.
again qft

ally wanted to go falcon only for the beginning of the fall ladder,
lost a bet and went back to snake.
co18 is right.
 

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Meh. Ally is decent, he did good but I wasnt all that impressed. He three stocked a less than average Wario and Falco. And everyone there freaked out at the end of the Wario video, just because Ally landed a jab that killed Wario...I never knew jab kills were that impressive. No disrespect to Ally though, only the people who think he is god.
 

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Meh. Ally is decent, he did good but I wasnt all that impressed. He three stocked a less than average Wario and Falco. And everyone there freaked out at the end of the Wario video, just because Ally landed a jab that killed Wario...I never knew jab kills were that impressive. No disrespect to Ally though, only the people who think he is god.
thats what i hate about brawl, u cant judge someone and their amount of skill and mindgames from watching vids.
 

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As long as the player's don't SD, you can tell how skilled they are. A stupid person can even tell that Ally is good.
That's just wrong.

Anyone GOOD can tell when someone is good from watching a video, but you can't tell how good.

And good players SD as well. It's easy to tell when somebody does something that could've been punished, or has a sloppy/innacurate playstyle.
 

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That's just wrong.

Anyone GOOD can tell when someone is good from watching a video, but you can't tell how good.

And good players SD as well. It's easy to tell when somebody does something that could've been punished, or has a sloppy/innacurate playstyle.
I dont think you understood what I was saying... I was actually the person agreeing with you before. I know good players SD too.
 
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