What if the BBR-RC decides to ban Meta Knight in the Unity Ruleset?
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Alabama Thread! (10/26/2016 update)
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_Keno_
Smash Lord
That doesn't make MK mains any less disadvantaged. Its fair that everyone should change mains.
Obviously nobody can force anyone else (or even want to), but if the MK mains complain and you feel guilty about them having to change mains, you can too.
I'm going sheik/zelda for singles but peach for doubles (and possibly falcon).
theONEjanitor
Smash Champion
i wouldn't even feel that much of a handicap if i was forced to play a different character. unless like i was forced to play ganon, lucario or lucas, or sonic. I dunno anything about how to play those characters, but Every other character I kinda know how to play decently already. obviously i dont know them as much as my mains. but like i said i could learn that in two weeks lol I learn a lot about playing characters just from watching other people. I think wario is one of my best non-mains, and I've never played him in tournament, its all from watching slam and reflex. and my kirby is also decent. literally all just copying stuff from george. and some characters are just easy to play, like marth.
there's so much stuff that carries over from character to character.
almost all character's nairs hit both sides are either mutli hit or sex kicks, and can be autocancelled.
almost all characters have quick jabs that can be used to interreupt incoming moves and set up jab mindgames
each character has either bair that's a kill move, and a fair that's a damage builder/juggle move, or vice versa.
almost all characters d-throws send the opponent vertically
just things like that. I play Pit and ROB almost exactly the same
snake is a weird exception to like all the "rules" of smash though. he's such a strange character and I think that's why i can't get better with him at a fast rate. its like you learn all the other characters in one class room while snake himself is his own course.
there's so much stuff that carries over from character to character.
almost all character's nairs hit both sides are either mutli hit or sex kicks, and can be autocancelled.
almost all characters have quick jabs that can be used to interreupt incoming moves and set up jab mindgames
each character has either bair that's a kill move, and a fair that's a damage builder/juggle move, or vice versa.
almost all characters d-throws send the opponent vertically
just things like that. I play Pit and ROB almost exactly the same
snake is a weird exception to like all the "rules" of smash though. he's such a strange character and I think that's why i can't get better with him at a fast rate. its like you learn all the other characters in one class room while snake himself is his own course.
popsofctown
Smash Champion
*Cam*
Smash Lord
I heard Pops is hilarious. No, seriously.
popsofctown
Smash Champion
Sometimes. I made Leon laugh until he couldn't breathe making Zelda jokes the other night. Daniel earnestly asked if he was drunk.
You guys will probably meet Leon soon enough. He's a local Sheik/Zelda main that's kinda new. He nails DACUS when I don't shield and whiffs it when I do.
You guys will probably meet Leon soon enough. He's a local Sheik/Zelda main that's kinda new. He nails DACUS when I don't shield and whiffs it when I do.
theONEjanitor
Smash Champion
one of the reasons I dropped sheik is because I could not do DACUS with any kind of consistency.
TheSaintKai
Smash Ace
popsofctown
Smash Champion
Same here.
Play me with Pikachu the next time I see you as I have a SUPER special idea I want to test out.
Saint speaks the truth.
*Cam*
Smash Lord
Does it involve Link?
debatable.
i was able to keep a straight face the whole time :/
theONEjanitor
Smash Champion
I use R for all my shield related activities though. That'd be a hard habit to break.
Nope. That's the back-up plan.
Do you use L for anything specific? Switching it for Attack t might accomplish the same effect (of not being in an awkward position for your finger to press with great timing), but I've only done so with R, so, I don't know if it would be the same.
theONEjanitor
Smash Champion
I use L to b-reverse, but i don't think sheiks normally do that too much. when i was playing sheik i think i tried switching Y to attack, and it helped a bit but i still couldn't get it down consistently. i'll fool around with it and see whats up
Mahgnittoc
Smash Ace
Is that the black guy I was playing yesterday, pops?
popsofctown
Smash Champion
T1J, Kevin??
No, T1J is a Birmingham player, plays mostly snake but he likes trying out lots of characters.
I hope you chatted with the black guy that came to smash club though, he was love jumping. That means he read something on a forum and applied it to improve his game, which is promising. Unless he discovered it on his own, which is rather doubtful since the tech took a year and a half to come out iirc.
No, T1J is a Birmingham player, plays mostly snake but he likes trying out lots of characters.
I hope you chatted with the black guy that came to smash club though, he was love jumping. That means he read something on a forum and applied it to improve his game, which is promising. Unless he discovered it on his own, which is rather doubtful since the tech took a year and a half to come out iirc.
NinjaFoxX
Banned via Warnings
whats everyone doing this weekend? i really wanna play smash at some point before ASL and stuff -.-
I SEE YOU
Smash Ace
I think U-Smash out of shield is more important for wolf than his dacus. U-Smash out of shield is just more practical (imo).
popsofctown
Smash Champion
Why not learn both? They're both pretty useful
Predicting DSmash shouldn't be an issue. If you're just throwing out, it's an issue that you need to solve. You can't just fish for a kill blow, you need to let it come to you. Wait until you've reached a position where your opponent has traditionally been doing something DSmash will beat. Or wait until they do something punishable. You've got to watch. I mean, I've been getting kills with Falco for awhile now and if you've gotta wait until FTilt kills, then that's just what you do.
TheSaintKai
Smash Ace
THIS.
B-air around 130 kills fresh. If it's stale, you can still catch them offstage with it or just around 160. F-air around 145, and the higher in the air they are, the closer they are to the blast line, which of course means earlier kills. U-tilt kills at 175. Those percentages are ROUGH estimates, btw. D-tilt semi spikes. D-throw semi spikes. I mean, even stale f-smash kills eventually. Don't fish for openings. If you get a hard read, d-smash of course, lol. But otherwise use your options.
YOU ARE LIMITING YOURSELF IF YOU THINK D-SMASH IS WHAT YOU NEED TO KILL WITH.
You're setting psychological boundaries around your options.
omg you guys i never said i was fishing for kill moves.
im just saying i might not learn dacus with wolf because itd be easier to kill with an upsmash oos cuz i dont wanna throw it out that much..
stop treating me like a nub lol i know all these things....
im just saying i might not learn dacus with wolf because itd be easier to kill with an upsmash oos cuz i dont wanna throw it out that much..
stop treating me like a nub lol i know all these things....
I SEE YOU
Smash Ace
My mindset when i play wolf~
Up Smash out of shield~ I use it at lower percents. If i can land upsmash oos at lower percents, then i have options afterwards. If my opponent air dodges on top of me then i do it again. If my opponent tries to attack me on his way down, then i do it again. Up smash hits twice and is a pretty safe move.
Back air~ I use this move way too often for it to be considered a kill move. Great damage builder, great spacing tool, and i think you can link it to fsmash at very low percents to build damage.
Up air~ at anytime my opponent is above me i use this to juggle. Typically this is in the middle of the game.
Getting the kill~ I use two moves to kill with wolf. Down Smash and forward air. I Use fair to mix up my up air juggling once my opponent is over 120%. I know fair is a good move for spacing, but I try to save it to give me another killing option. As far as landing down smash goes, wait until your opponent is on the ledge. This opportunity will present itself more when your opponent is higher in % with you are knocking them off stage. With back air being your only real edge guarding move, i'd recommend allowing your opponent to get on the ledge. Wolf has good ledge pressure (atleast i think so) He prevents ppl from jumping off the ledge due to his back air, so when ppl are trying to calculate the best way to get back on the stage you'd be surprised how many times you can hit a free down smash with your opponent not di ing because they were on the ledge. Obviously your opponent will be looking out for that next time, so just be aware that they will want to get off the ledge quickly and punish accordingly...
Hope this helps :]
Up Smash out of shield~ I use it at lower percents. If i can land upsmash oos at lower percents, then i have options afterwards. If my opponent air dodges on top of me then i do it again. If my opponent tries to attack me on his way down, then i do it again. Up smash hits twice and is a pretty safe move.
Back air~ I use this move way too often for it to be considered a kill move. Great damage builder, great spacing tool, and i think you can link it to fsmash at very low percents to build damage.
Up air~ at anytime my opponent is above me i use this to juggle. Typically this is in the middle of the game.
Getting the kill~ I use two moves to kill with wolf. Down Smash and forward air. I Use fair to mix up my up air juggling once my opponent is over 120%. I know fair is a good move for spacing, but I try to save it to give me another killing option. As far as landing down smash goes, wait until your opponent is on the ledge. This opportunity will present itself more when your opponent is higher in % with you are knocking them off stage. With back air being your only real edge guarding move, i'd recommend allowing your opponent to get on the ledge. Wolf has good ledge pressure (atleast i think so) He prevents ppl from jumping off the ledge due to his back air, so when ppl are trying to calculate the best way to get back on the stage you'd be surprised how many times you can hit a free down smash with your opponent not di ing because they were on the ledge. Obviously your opponent will be looking out for that next time, so just be aware that they will want to get off the ledge quickly and punish accordingly...
Hope this helps :]
Mahgnittoc
Smash Ace
wut... pops... I know who T1J is. I was asking if the guy you was talking about was the small skinny black guy
_Keno_
Smash Lord
hey UAB melee guy, my email is robbinsrs@gmail.com
email me when you want to play. We still haven't played since you got here. D=
Zero_Gamer, Kola, and those who want to go to AWA from my general area, are you guys dressing up? And does anyone else who wants to go can afford to go?
email me when you want to play. We still haven't played since you got here. D=
Zero_Gamer, Kola, and those who want to go to AWA from my general area, are you guys dressing up? And does anyone else who wants to go can afford to go?
Zero_Gamer
Smash Master
I gots nothing to cosplay as. :/
satan has something it might dress up as. satan is my sister, by the way.
satan has something it might dress up as. satan is my sister, by the way.
theONEjanitor
Smash Champion
tbh, I just use whatever move seems to be the best move to use at the time. I don't pay THAT much attention to whether a move is stale anymore. Not dying is more important in this game than killing people.
but to be fair, I play a lot of characters with many ways to kill people.
but to be fair, I play a lot of characters with many ways to kill people.
thanks.
i mean... im gonna try...
i dont really think ill be able to do it though.
edit: main wolf/ find a main, that is.
im getting WRECCCCKKKEED on Aib like almost 3 stock every single match my wolf is down right dreadful.
theONEjanitor
Smash Champion
slam come to town so we can play off line and help each other
NinjaFoxX
Banned via Warnings
Chances of AWA....slowly diminishing....
but i have cosply i can donate to those who wanna go if i dont.
but i have cosply i can donate to those who wanna go if i dont.
Saki-
Reset Project
Dibs on Soul Reaper outfit
popsofctown
Smash Champion
@mahg - Leon? Leon is the treasurer..
Mahgnittoc
Smash Ace
Ok that might be who I'm. Who's the thinking about dude in the doorag that was being loud?