saviorslegacy
My avater is not a Sheik avatar.
That's awfully low. <,<
She's more like A tier.
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Active Player Thread: Ones who does not have Triforce can't go in
- Thread starter Zankoku
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She's more like A tier.
Tristan_win
Not dead.
A tier, B tier it's all good just as long we are above Sonic by next tier list.
I'm still spitting blood from the SBR back hand sheik got from lack of activity.
My Cat Owns
Smash Apprentice
When are they going to make a new tier list anyway?
SuSa
Banned via Administration
Sheik is high B tier IMO. <_<
aka "Borderline viable"
aka "Borderline viable"
iLight
Smash Lord
i think tier lists insight amazing gameplay and terrible strategies
saviorslegacy
My avater is not a Sheik avatar.
Eh, I like dis man.
choknater
Smash Obsessed
that sentence didn't make sense to me
My Cat Owns
Smash Apprentice
^me neither. I'll assume he tried to use insight as a verb and meant that tier lists give people insight on amazing gameplay but give terrible strategies? idk.
Sheik sure as HELL isn't worse than sonic.... I don't really care about teir lists. I believe in myself way more than metasnakes when it comes to sheiks (and most characters) viability.
Leafplayer452
Smash Journeyman
Sheik will never be higher than Lucario, the day Lucario is higher than Marth (which I believe will never come)is the day Sheik is A tier (which I think wont come to be)
My Cat Owns
Smash Apprentice
I think sheik could easily be A tier, but maybe top of B. The ftilt lock to usmash is just too good.
Leafplayer452
Smash Journeyman
Yes it is good but on most characters and good/smart players, they can easily escape it/ DI out of the ftilt to easily avoid the usmash
kingcobra9
Smash Ace
never a teir she just isn't that good
iLight
Smash Lord
lol i meant to say i think tier lists insight incite amazing gameplay and terrible strategies
incite - –verb (used with object), -cit⋅ed, -cit⋅ing.
to stir, encourage, or urge on; stimulate or prompt to action: to incite a crowd to riot.
i basically am saying that tier lists, make the people who play characters who arn't considered the best try harder and come up with amazing things, but it also makes people who play top tier characters spam their 3 most broken strategies, non stop.
incite - –verb (used with object), -cit⋅ed, -cit⋅ing.
to stir, encourage, or urge on; stimulate or prompt to action: to incite a crowd to riot.
i basically am saying that tier lists, make the people who play characters who arn't considered the best try harder and come up with amazing things, but it also makes people who play top tier characters spam their 3 most broken strategies, non stop.
choknater
Smash Obsessed
lmao, yeah, forsure
concerning the general level of play, at least
the higher echelon of players should always be trying to bring out the limits of their respective characters anyway
concerning the general level of play, at least
the higher echelon of players should always be trying to bring out the limits of their respective characters anyway
you can't DI ftilt :/ you can DI ftilt -> usmash, it is hard to do on reaction though she has other guaranteed kill set ups so that isn't huge.
If I still cared about Brawl teir lists (sorry, that last one was horrible) I'd say something like "Sheik is easily A teir. An amazing air, ground, and long range game make her highly adaptable to different characters and different play style. That a very good matches up against the most frequently placing characters should at least net her some where in A."
I won't say that though.
It's up to players to prove how good their character is. I don't play sheik because I think she is almost good enough to win.
If I still cared about Brawl teir lists (sorry, that last one was horrible) I'd say something like "Sheik is easily A teir. An amazing air, ground, and long range game make her highly adaptable to different characters and different play style. That a very good matches up against the most frequently placing characters should at least net her some where in A."
I won't say that though.
It's up to players to prove how good their character is. I don't play sheik because I think she is almost good enough to win.
Tristan_win
Not dead.
choknater
Smash Obsessed
hahahahh i wonder if u can ledge hop b-reverse needle cancel fair edge guard OFF A TIGHTROPE AND ONTO A TRAPEZE
SuSa
Banned via Administration
You can if you save your second jump. 
(Side-B, Cancel, Jump, B-reverse needle, fair, side-B)
I'll be using Sheik this Sat. for winners bracket and money matches. ^_^
(Side-B, Cancel, Jump, B-reverse needle, fair, side-B)
I'll be using Sheik this Sat. for winners bracket and money matches. ^_^
choknater
Smash Obsessed
haha u got this susa!! funnest character man
Tristan_win
Not dead.
I really should put some of my ftilt data online so I can at least work on it while I'm in Information Literacy. Like I'm taking Upgrading and Maintaining PC Hardware. , Networking concepts(***** hard class), not to mention AC DC 1 and here this guy is being like.
"Printers use ink, the ink come from cartridges."
edit: I mean at the start of class I go though all the lecture slides and then I start surfing the net. The class is only a hour long but even so in 30 minutes I can completely organize one characters complete data of 884 numbers.
"Printers use ink, the ink come from cartridges."
edit: I mean at the start of class I go though all the lecture slides and then I start surfing the net. The class is only a hour long but even so in 30 minutes I can completely organize one characters complete data of 884 numbers.
My Cat Owns
Smash Apprentice
Can't be as easy as Creative Writing. Maybe it's my teacher but most of the time we just sit and watch movies.
choknater
Smash Obsessed
LOL
ease of a class pretty much always depends on the teacher
and sometimes ur passion for the subject
ease of a class pretty much always depends on the teacher
and sometimes ur passion for the subject
kingcobra9
Smash Ace
hey chalky how'd you get your posts reset
choknater
Smash Obsessed
i didn't
it goes backwards
it goes backwards
saviorslegacy
My avater is not a Sheik avatar.
How often do you go to the Ninja training grounds?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35aZ_Qf1N_E&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35aZ_Qf1N_E&feature=related
choknater
Smash Obsessed
wow nice haha
i want that stage
the first wall jump looks hard
i want that stage
the first wall jump looks hard
Leafplayer452
Smash Journeyman
That vid is made of win, good stuff to the maker
kingcobra9
Smash Ace
what if i told you i do that in real life...
choknater
Smash Obsessed
i wouldn't believe you
edit: today is my birthday!!
LOL
apparently snake has a grab release cg on sheik
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Upk2A42cCRQ&feature=sub
u gotta be FRAME PERFECT
rofl
edit: today is my birthday!!
LOL
apparently snake has a grab release cg on sheik
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Upk2A42cCRQ&feature=sub
u gotta be FRAME PERFECT
rofl
Happy birthday, chok!
Cross and Light were shown consecutively on the HOBO livestream:
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/hobo-18-return-to-planet-zero
Cross and Light were shown consecutively on the HOBO livestream:
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/hobo-18-return-to-planet-zero
Screw ustream... won't let me say anything in chat
saviorslegacy
My avater is not a Sheik avatar.
happy b-day
How old are you BTW?
I found that back in June.
I tested it some and found Sheik can get out of it.
Out of like 10 minutes I was unable to regrab the Sheik before she jabbed me in the face.
I dunno what Innocentroads point was, but we can get out of it.
Snake can however, follow up with Dash Attack or DACUS.
lol
You've gotta frame perfect boost grab. grab I think comes out the same frame as dash attack, maybe faster.
Okay, here we go:
Things sheiks should know but don't because they don't read <3's posts:
Utilt is disjointed.
utilt hits behind you.
bair is disjointed.
Bair always hits the opposite direction you are facing
Bair on shield gives you a slight advantage on everything spare shield canceling options (you should never be in front of your opponent within range for one of these moves though.)
Bair has three distinct knock backs.
the front of bair hits people.
fair is disjointed.
you can hit people with fair so that they go behind you.
Nair has 4 diffrent knockbacks.
dtilt is disjointed.
needles can be smash DIed and used to punish you. Or DIed by your recovering partner.
You can full hop needles with no landing lag
You can glide off stage with a needle charges for increase horizontal movement speed.
instant needle cancel only looks cool, it impractile and only lowers your options.
b reversed needles are cool, you can use them to change momentum much faster than normal making them a great mix up when landing from high up or when approaching out of a short hop.
Fsmash isn't horrible. there are two different hitboxes for the move. the tip which keeps them still for the second hit, and the leg which moves them forward a set distance. the move is actually a great way to punish air dodges at high percent when you are unsure of their exact landing position. (fsmash has a much longer active/practice range in front of sheik than dsmash)
jab is safe on shield from behind.
jab-short isn't a true combo into anything until significatly high percents.
jabshort does combo into grab aginst most characters at like 50% (meaning characters without invul frame 3 or less than a frame three jab.) and true into downsmash around 180%. if you are hitting people before these percents they just DIed wrong. try it against marth.
jab should be your panic move, not dsmash. it leads to more options, it is safer on block (grab and other sheild cancels being the only real punish) and on connect it doesn't decay.
ftilt is safe on sheild from behind.
sheik -> Zelda -> sheik is an even better than just zelda verus a lot of charatcers. You refresh all your moves so you turn fair and bair back, your main spacers, into kill moves. much much safer and harder to camp than zelda.........
I'm Ankoku's alt account. lol.
Okay, here we go:
Things sheiks should know but don't because they don't read <3's posts:
Utilt is disjointed.
utilt hits behind you.
bair is disjointed.
Bair always hits the opposite direction you are facing
Bair on shield gives you a slight advantage on everything spare shield canceling options (you should never be in front of your opponent within range for one of these moves though.)
Bair has three distinct knock backs.
the front of bair hits people.
fair is disjointed.
you can hit people with fair so that they go behind you.
Nair has 4 diffrent knockbacks.
dtilt is disjointed.
needles can be smash DIed and used to punish you. Or DIed by your recovering partner.
You can full hop needles with no landing lag
You can glide off stage with a needle charges for increase horizontal movement speed.
instant needle cancel only looks cool, it impractile and only lowers your options.
b reversed needles are cool, you can use them to change momentum much faster than normal making them a great mix up when landing from high up or when approaching out of a short hop.
Fsmash isn't horrible. there are two different hitboxes for the move. the tip which keeps them still for the second hit, and the leg which moves them forward a set distance. the move is actually a great way to punish air dodges at high percent when you are unsure of their exact landing position. (fsmash has a much longer active/practice range in front of sheik than dsmash)
jab is safe on shield from behind.
jab-short isn't a true combo into anything until significatly high percents.
jabshort does combo into grab aginst most characters at like 50% (meaning characters without invul frame 3 or less than a frame three jab.) and true into downsmash around 180%. if you are hitting people before these percents they just DIed wrong. try it against marth.
jab should be your panic move, not dsmash. it leads to more options, it is safer on block (grab and other sheild cancels being the only real punish) and on connect it doesn't decay.
ftilt is safe on sheild from behind.
sheik -> Zelda -> sheik is an even better than just zelda verus a lot of charatcers. You refresh all your moves so you turn fair and bair back, your main spacers, into kill moves. much much safer and harder to camp than zelda.........
I'm Ankoku's alt account. lol.
SuSa
Banned via Administration
Utilt sucks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-lfiS_PeVA
Bair is fantastic, especially bair > dsmash and similiar things. (Just to pressure shields, sometimes it pokes. I don't get punished THAT often for it...)
No moves decay when they hit shields. (and jab's do decay)
I don't believe you.
/I didn't comment on everything
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-lfiS_PeVA
Bair is fantastic, especially bair > dsmash and similiar things. (Just to pressure shields, sometimes it pokes. I don't get punished THAT often for it...)
No moves decay when they hit shields. (and jab's do decay)
I don't believe you.
/I didn't comment on everything