Active Player Thread: Ones who does not have Triforce can't go in

[TKD]

the vids got recorded wrong. they skip a TON of frames. i'm pissed. i don't want to upload more

 

[iLight]

that first video looked pretty good, you definitely have your head in the right place, playing nice and cautious, letting their high percentage kill them rather than going for kills too early

 

[<π]

use jabs in place of the "oh ****" dsmashes TKD they are much more rewarding, faster, and safer.

you use nair so much, lol but your fair is fresh for kills. if it works.

 

[Judo777]

soooooo many powershields............ lol

 

[iLight]

he plays that match up the way I do lol

 

[TKD]

I don't think about killing. I just think about fighting. Why limit your combat? Anyway I think I'm using too few dash attacks to punish whiffs and too few dash grabs to approach.

 

[iLight]

i did think you could use more grabs, but then again i grab too much, so whatever works best for you

 

[-Mars-]

TKD critiques himself.

lol hes got this guyz.

 

[KenniSpam!]

**** sheik, wolf will define the 2011 metagame

AWOOOOOOOOOOOO

 

[TKD]

I'm definitely switching mains. But I won't visit the U.S. for a bit (not that I do often anyway). Next two weekends there are tourneys over here.

Which chars can crouch Sheik's needles? I think we can fight Pikachu if he can't. I'm lazy and don't want to learn Zelda.

 

[Seagull Joe]

I'm definitely switching mains. But I won't visit the U.S. for a bit (not that I do often anyway). Next two weekends there are tourneys over here.

Which chars can crouch Sheik's needles? I think we can fight Pikachu if he can't. I'm lazy and don't want to learn Zelda.

I don't think anyone except Snake and Squirtle can crouch Sheik's needles. I'm unsure.

Grab release>Tipper Dacus kill on Pikachu too good.

 

[Pwneroni]

Greetings Sheik boards! I'm Pwneroni, a Wario main from Oregon. I've been searching for a legit secondary for a loong time, and I think Sheik may be IT!! She is so fast and quick, I love her Nair and Bair! Needles are awesome too, and while I wish they had less lag like in Melee, they are still **** as a projectile.

What are the basic things to know as a Sheik player? I'm pretty much a veteran to the game (been playing since it came out), so I know basic things like DI, SDI, buffering and things like that. What I don't know are...

-How to do Sheik's DACUS

-Frame data on Sheik's moves

Is there such a place where information like that is located? Help would be appreciated

 

[choknater]

welcome pwneroni my in game tag is roni hahah

dacus should be the same as wario's
c stick down and then upA or upZ usmash, i believe u gotta do the usmash in 1 frame.

i know some of the more important fast frame data
jab frame 2
ftilt/dtilt frame 4
fair frame 4
bair frame 4
dsmash frame 4
nair frame 3

please correct me if im wrong friends

it shouldnt be hard to find the hitbubble/frame data threads if u search

im 2 lazy

 

[Zankoku]

choknater, I've always wondered

how do you pronounce your name?

 

[choknater]

however you want to. personally i say choke-nater

others say chock-nater which sounds cool too

if we lived next door i could be your chalk-neighbor

 

[Judo777]

I don't think anyone except Snake and Squirtle can crouch Sheik's needles. I'm unsure.

Grab release>Tipper Dacus kill on Pikachu too good.

DACUS doesn't tipper on pika out of GR

 

[Sailor Princess Twenty-Two.]

DACUS doesn't tipper on pika out of GR

Everyone always told m,e that you could, but whenever I tried it failed glad to know I'm not just doing it wrong.

Also would B-Dacus get the tipper? I don't really know the difference in length/ Speed between Dacus and Bdacus but it would be neat if it could.

And pwneroni, I don't want to scare you away from picking up Sheik, but thinking on Wario's Bad MUs Sheik goes like even with all of them lol. Sheik's Dacus uses the same inputs as Wario's dacus, just with stricter timing.

All of Sheik's tilts are frame 5. Her nair is frame 3. Fair/Bair/Uair are all frame 5 as well iirc.

Jab is frame 2.

 

[choknater]

hahah nice sig sailor princess

though i prefer the term footsies over boxing!

idk if they mean the same thing

rofl

 

[Zankoku]

Just paralyze them with your superior display of game knowledge! Then all of your mix-ups can revolve around your opponent shielding until the shield breaks.

 

[Sailor Princess Twenty-Two.]

ty I love talking to Malcolm lol

You can just call me tutu if you like O: Sailor/Sailor Princess/ Princess/ Sailor Twenty-Two/ Princess Twenty-Two/ Tutu/ Tewtew/ Tewx2/ 2-2. I'll answer to all of them.

My name is just too fun.

 

[choknater]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh you're tutu haha

that weird lord xavier guy was telling me about you

 

[Sailor Princess Twenty-Two.]

Lmao Lord X think's I'm the best Sheik like I tried telling him otherwise... he just won't listen lol.

 

[choknater]

i was losing to him LOL i felt kinda embarrassed.

i have johns though, oh well

 

[Zankoku]

lolllll I remember Xavier. I think I consistently won, but I remember them being really frustrating because the connection wasn't exactly great. Plus I have a really low tolerance for Wifi in general.

 

[Sailor Princess Twenty-Two.]

Sheik is so bad on wifi. Like I can't even f-tilt lock it's so dumb.

 

[choknater]

yeah. sheik is horrendous on wifi.

however, i do credit my wifi experience for taking my camping skills to where they are today hhahah.

 

[TKD]

So guys, who here does the....

ftilt
short foot-stool
[weak bair reset, needle reset]/[weak bair reset, charged needles reset, needle reset]/[charged needle reset, needle reset]
usmash

....combo?

It looks neat. Knowing the percentage requirement, we can probably plan to perform it at any of many moments. The opponent needs enough % for enough frame adv to foot-stool them, though I don't know how much. Distance isn't so much of a big issue because of dash buffering.

Greetings Sheik boards! I'm Pwneroni, a Wario main from Oregon. I've been searching for a legit secondary for a loong time, and I think Sheik may be IT!

DDD is tough for us too. That's Wario's only bad match-up, right? Other possibilities are like...Marth and Peach...but Wario's nair is tough to pivot grab, and he's really heavy and poweful and can no doubt juggle them...also unlike most think, Wario can handle MK without that much trouble, you just need to know how. I don't see Sheik helping you out much, unless she fits your play-style better in which case you're awesome.

 

[Pwneroni]

Yeah I'm not all that worried about Wario's bad matchups. Moochero, a D3 player used to be my main training buddy, so I know that mu like the back of my hand. I go all Wario in tournament, but having a legit secondary would be awesome!

Sheik fits my style really well. I play an aggressive and spacey Wario, and I like to focus on follow ups and mixups. Sheik is really fun because all of her moves are so quick

PS. Thanks for all the helpful info everyone much appreciated! I didn't know her jab comes out on frame 2, that's totally wicked!

 

[Seagull Joe]

DACUS doesn't tipper on pika out of GR

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i85euqQhlS4&feature=channel_video_title

At :58 the Sheik in this video did it.

 

[iLight]

I feel like that pika had nothing controlling it, it didn't look like it should have connected at all if the pika had tried attacking

 

[KenniSpam!]

sheik is an unstoppable force on wifi

also wtf tutu youre not supposed to know tech skill

point control stick at bad guy and press green button, remember?

 

[Judo777]

Yea everything in innocent roads vids aren't 100% legit. He also said we could grab release pivot grab infinite wario i believe. Pika can escape before the tipper.

Also apparently sheik is pretty good on wifi, she is just completely different. DACUS is a legit strategy on wifi.

 

[Zankoku]

Judo, InnocentRoad never claimed that. You're confusing his videos with saviorslegacy's.

 

[Sailor Princess Twenty-Two.]

Dacus isn't actually that good on wifi, its harder to punish on reaction, but it gets predictable...

 

[#HBC | Scary]

IMO, DACUS definitely works on Pika. Same case as Diddy and popo where you have to be hella quick.

 

[KenniSpam!]

dacus is harddd

 

[Judo777]

Im pretty positive it doesn't tipper on Pika.

 

[TKD]

simply buffer it to make sure. if you can't buffer it, shoosh like moi

 

[Pwneroni]

Anyone know the landing lag frame amount for Sheik's Fair, Nair and Bair?

 

[Sailor Princess Twenty-Two.]

I know it's a very small amount. The actual number I am unsure of.