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I'm very certain of that too as well as a Spirit promotion like Geno, Shantae, or Bandana Dee.
I think what matters is whether Sakurai is gonna eat his words about DLCs are gonna expand the universe of Smash bros. It's not really nice if Nintendo is.proving that they're not honest and could keep doing this in the future.
What do you mean?
What it says on the tin, I have a pretty good feeling that due to his overwhelming popularity, Waluigi will be included as one of the characters in Fighter Pass Vol 2, as a "throwing them a bone" gesture to the fans.
I think I've mentioned that before, such statement seems to underestimate Nintendo's market research team as if they never thought Waluigi is popular. The current situation should be that they already know Waluigi is popular but never wanted to take it into consideration for game plans. Otherwise this would has made Waluigi been included in the base roster of Smash 3 or 4.
We're talking exclusively in Smash. And the reason to not include Waluigi could easily be the same as any other character: not being enough of a priority. If they want to give the fans a big showy character, they've already done Ridley, K Rool and Banjo. So they can do Waluigi, or Geno, or maybe Isaac, but the pool gets smaller every time. I feel like this is the time, but maybe it's the next, or another one.
I think half is correct, half isn't. You're right about the fact many other wanted characters are picked, but never said that the pool is shrinkening. At this point there are still quite many strong competitors.
New characters are showing up but they aren't becoming as highly demanded, not yet. Howard, Spring Man, they could get there, but they aren't in the upper echelons of demand, not yet. And for now, those upper echelons are shrinking.
Half of the fact remains that they could become popular or well-known in short time, the other half is the fact Nintendo do seem to force advertising. Byleth shows the best example for that, so that Waluigi does not really getting stronger chance without additional advantages.
Ah... A sticker concept...
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I'LL PRINT IT!
NO ONE WILL EVER KNOW!!!! pic.twitter.com/VBvoXzCPiX
Waluigi walks into the Smash House for a interview:
Wait Is that a Smash invitation?! Okay Waluigi! You got the job! You're officially a member of the Smash Bros. roster.
Wouldn't Sakurai know about who would get a Smash invitation or not since he's the one sending them?Waluigi walks into the Smash House for a interview:
Sakurai: WHAT DID I TELL YOU!!! FOR THE 100th TIME!!! YOU CAN'T JOIN SMASH BROS. BECAUSE YOU'RE A
Waluigi: Wahahaha! I knew my printing plan would work!
Sakurai: What?!
Waluigi: What?!
That is true. But I was just trying to make a joke. Perhaps Sakurai thought Nintendo gave the invitation to him lol!
I have to say, Waluigi has gained a lot of momentum in recent months. How about the Washington Post's coverage of Waluigi's AT backlash. It may not mean much but I think it can be significant. I really hope he gets his dues because it's time for our favorite purple guy to have his moment to shine. Is your feeling about Waluigi's chances similar to what you said about Banjo & Kazooie last year?
That's part of it. There's been a ton of dog whistles for Waluigi since literally November but it's not reached the scale of full on obnoxious that Banjo reached where even retailers couldn't STFU. I talked about this in another thread but Nintendo has a pretty consistent pattern of starting with themselves and companies they've already worked with first when it comes to DLC. Smash 4 had Mewtwo, Lucas, and Roy first and Ultimate had Plant. Waluigi also has the benefit of being an AT so, honestly, would probably take the least amount of work to convert into a playable character. This is why I think he'll either be first or last.
Not necessarily. Dark Samus and Isabelle got new models built from scratch and don't use any resources from their AT. Granted they do use resources from other fighters, and Isaac and Skull Kid's costumes were built from their AT models.
I disagree on Waluigi being fighter 11, I expect FP2 to be front-loaded just like FP1 and have their biggest stars shown first. In my opinion it makes sense to reveal Waluigi during the first three packs. Nintendo is aware that Waluigi is a big name so showing him earlier would do well for the sales of the pass. Fighter 11 might be someone more on the niche side, whether it's a small name character, a promotional character, or someone not that well known outside of the Smash community like Geno.
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, what would your ideal waluigi move-set be like, since there are so many take on how people want him in the game (sports, mario party, etc)
Why not a remix of Out of the Woods, the theme from Wario Land 3 that Wario & Waluigi Court is based on?
A Waluigi trailer cannot be anything except a bait-and-switch if you ask me, be it for Smash or another game.
To be fair what Nintendo should actually do with the DLCs is new franchises at this point, while the lack of NIntendo properties in general DLCs so far is an issue in coexistence. It's not that this has to be a closely followed rule, since it can be all NIntendo or all 3rd parties as long as they're actually new to Smash bros (yes, for legacy, we want it to be more NIntendo but it's realistically unlikely).
Can you post in threads about unrepresented franchises if that's what you want instead of Waluigi? You don't see me going into the Cinderace/Rillaboom threads begging for them to support a different kind of Pokemon.
To clarify I only mean to reply to the point of DLC speculation, which isn't exactly relevant with Waluigi's chance and support on the other way.
I'm fine with your specials except for the down special, it kind of ties Waluigi's character to his previous role as an assist trophy, which let's be honest, isn't the main appeal of Waluigi as a character. I don't want Waluigi to be playable because of the memes of him being an assist trophy, I want him to be playable because I like him as a character and I think he would be neat as a playable fighter.
I was thinking about maybe a dice block he tosses out and it lands on a random number and does random things, like judge but a projectile/item, but I was worried it was a bit too similar to the tennis move. I dunno, what do you think?
I think it's possible to differentiate the two moves. Dice block would have wacky effects like freezing the opponent, doing 1% of damage, or stunning them. Tennis serve would be more of a standard projectile that does decent damage and knockback. Both might have RNG aspects but it's clear one of them only differs slightly in damage while the other does all kinds of different effects.
