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\_---Ephraim For Brawl---_/

RWB

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Don't Pent and Erk have the same stat caps?

The main reason I don't like Pent is because I have a thing against pre-evolved units (even if they are good)...
People tend to dislike them, but in FE10, without spoiling, you are pretty screwed if you not use them.

Pent and Erk has the same caps. But its not like they'll reach all of them(Heck, Nino only caps spd...). Erk caps spd, but Pents higher con makes up for that small advantage. I'm speaking averages, not caps.

Erk is still the second best Mage in the game. Athos is usually not counted on the tier list, because he joins in the last chapter.
 

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I like Ephraim, the guy uses a sphere, how many non FE games have a sphere guy, that's of course from Nintendo?

Ephraim for Brawl!
 

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Ephraim would kick ***. There's no way he wouldn't. His look is much better than Ike's. Ike doesn't have his lord look, so he automatically looks like he's in poverty.
I don't think he would be a lame character but his chances are nil compared to other lords (and even some non-lords). Some would say that Sacred Stones released world-wide increases his chances because that's not true. People outside of Japan mostly want Lyn, Hector, and several FE9 characters. Ephraim is at the short end of the stick.

I would be surprised if he made it as an AT let alone as a character.
 

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The black Knight can use spears, of course he would fight withis Sword, but maybe as a ranged B move.
 

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LMAO ! What, crossdress?Anyway, I like Ephraim. Just because you're in a bad game doesn't mean you're crap yourself, eh.
True, but It does mean that less people will play your game and that you'll be less popular than characters in other more popular games. I'm not saying I don't like Ephraim, I'm saying that other characters have a better shot because they're in better games.
 
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True, but It does mean that less people will play your game and that you'll be less popular than characters in other more popular games. I'm not saying I don't like Ephraim, I'm saying that other characters have a better shot because they're in better games.
Not wanting a debate dude, but how many people played the original Ice Climbers? And yet they still were included.

Anyway, we cannot fathom how Sakurai's mind works. Its on a whole different plain of being.
 

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To me, it's far from impossible. I mean, Sakurai could ask his agents to present all of the world-wide released Fire Emblems, their characters and details about them. He could go "Well, since we have Ike who wields a sword, we could put in Ephraim since he uses a spear!". Of course with a game series like Fire Emblem that has so many characters, he'd be safer to choose the characters recommended through the polls. And if he went as far as to find out how Fire Emblem fans generally view Sacred Stones, that would just lower Ephraim's chances even more. xD
 

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To me, it's far from impossible. I mean, Sakurai could ask his agents to present all of the world-wide released Fire Emblems, their characters and details about them. He could go "Well, since we have Ike who wields a sword, we could put in Ephraim since he uses a spear!". Of course with a game series like Fire Emblem that has so many characters, he'd be safer to choose the characters recommended through the polls. And if he went as far as to find out how Fire Emblem fans generally view Sacred Stones, that would just lower Ephraim's chances even more. xD
If Mia was in brawl I'd strangle Sakurai. I'm pretty sure he's going to do some research into The Fire Emblem series; however the mere thought of Mia being in brawl(as a playable character) makes my blood boil.
 

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How about Sothe or Volke?
I really hope Sakurai doesn't dissapoint me and pick someone that's not a Lord(Main character of the game).

I'd rather not see Sothe or Volke in brawl unless they have importance on par with Ike or Mikaya; almost any other lord in their respective FE's as well.
 

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If Mia was in brawl I'd strangle Sakurai. I'm pretty sure he's going to do some research into The Fire Emblem series; however the mere thought of Mia being in brawl(as a playable character) makes my blood boil.
I'd like Mia simply because she isn't as serious as the other Fire Emblem characters and her FE9 incarnation is quite cute.

Look at this;
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/index.html

Every character except Wario, Diddy, Kirby and Yoshi have a rather serious nature. Of course this is Super Smash Bros, so you should be serious when your life is at stake. But having a cheerful or innocent nature makes characters like Kirby or Yoshi stand out more. Fire Emblem is a war tragedy. Kingdoms burns, lives are lost, friends become enemies... but characters like Mia stand out from the stone and grit because they manage to remain overly optimistic and cheerful which makes them more memorable. Some people may find this quality annoying, but not everyone.
 

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Sohe is the main character of the one for the Wii
No he isn't.

I'd like Mia simply because she isn't as serious as the other Fire Emblem characters and her FE9 incarnation is quite cute.

Look at this;
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/index.html

Every character except Wario, Diddy, Kirby and Yoshi have a rather serious nature. Of course this is Super Smash Bros, so you should be serious when your life is at stake. But having a cheerful or innocent nature makes characters like Kirby or Yoshi stand out more. Fire Emblem is a war tragedy. Kingdoms burns, lives are lost, friends become enemies... but characters like Mia stand out from the stone and grit because they manage to remain overly optimistic and cheerful which makes them more memorable. Some people may find this quality annoying, but not everyone.

I see what you mean however, that still doesn't give her any good reason to be in she's so unimportant to the series; and if it's based on personality Then Serra should be a shoe in.
 

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If Mia was in brawl I'd strangle Sakurai. I'm pretty sure he's going to do some research into The Fire Emblem series; however the mere thought of Mia being in brawl(as a playable character) makes my blood boil.
Nonsense! Utter nonsense! She may not be that deserving to be on the roster; however, it wouldn't be a total loss if Mia was added as a playable character. More females are needed for Brawl other than Peach and Zelda. That's where Mia comes in.
 

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Nonsense! Utter nonsense! She may not be that deserving to be on the roster; however, it wouldn't be a total loss if Mia was added as a playable character. More females are needed for Brawl other than Peach and Zelda. That's where Mia comes in.
I will give you that SSBB Melee needs more females, but Mia is a pretty awful rep for the FE series when you have other female characters like Mikaya and Lyndis who are actually important to their respective games.
 

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I see what you mean however, that still doesn't give her any good reason to be in she's so unimportant to the series; and if it's based on personality Then Serra should be a shoe in.
Not saying being in the poll is mandatory to get it, but it does raise the character's chances significantly. It's clear Sakurai played Fire Emblem 9, and probably 10, from start to finish when creating Ike. Sakurai, after adding the main character of a franchise, always goes after those who stand out the most. Unique and obscure characters like the Ice Climbers. It's kind of funny because the more popular units like Nephenee have the least interesting character. >.>

Edit - This is only saying I wouldn't mind if Mia was in. I'd much rather have Macaiah in Brawl.
(Not so much Lyndis)
 

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Sothe and Micaiah are thhe Two Main characters better? so they should have Sothe being that he is a Vet
 

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Sothe and Micaiah are thhe Two Main characters better? so they should have Sothe being that he is a Vet
For the last time, Sothe is not a main character. Ike and Macaiah are the lead characters. The closest to them would be Elincia, Mist and perhaps Sanaki. (even she gets to lead her own part of the game.)
 

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Not saying being in the poll is mandatory to get it, but it does raise the character's chances significantly. It's clear Sakurai played Fire Emblem 9, and probably 10, from start to finish when creating Ike. Sakurai, after adding the main character of a franchise, always goes after those who stand out the most. Unique and obscure characters like the Ice Climbers. It's kind of funny because the more popular units like Nephenee have the least interesting character. >.>

Edit - This is only saying I wouldn't mind if Mia was in. I'd much rather have Macaiah in Brawl.
(Not so much Lyndis)
:/ I hope Mia didn't stand out to much in his eyes, maybe just enough to make her an AT.

Sothe and Micaiah are thhe Two Main characters better? so they should have Sothe being that he is a Vet
Sothe isn't a main character.
 

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Then Why Have him on the Cover? If he is Macaih's Lil Bro then that means if he dies the story cannot continue which usually means a main character in the world of FE save the NPC's and green people SO I could say that Macaih, Ike, Sothe and ELincia are the 4 mains!
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Then Why Have him on the Cover? If he is Macaih's Lil Bro then that means if he dies the story cannot continue which usually means a main character SO I could say that Macaih, Ike, Sothe and ELincia are the 4 mains!
omfg.... COVER DOES NOT = IMPORTANCE. After a certain point in the game you can actually kill Sothe off if you wanted (iirc)and the story still goes on. Tell me what kind of "main character" is that?
 

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Then Why Have him on the Cover?
Being on the cover means nothing. That could rule out 1/3rd of the melee cast.
If he is Macaih's Lil Bro then that means if he dies the story cannot continue which usually means a main character
Wrong. Sothe can fall in combat after the first part of the game and it'd continue on like nothing happened. They aren't related by blood, they only choose to call themselves brother and sister.
SO I could say that Macaih, Ike, Sothe and ELincia are the 4 mains!
No. Sothe isn't a main character at all. Just like any Jeigan, he assists the lead at the start and that's it.
 

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*Sigh* You know What? Put in Matthew for Coolness and We'll call it a Day BTW gimme Definition of a main Character....

Edit:Sothe is second on the list in the Japanese website but I quit Just play the game yourself...Im hungry

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I will give you that SSBB Melee needs more females, but Mia is a pretty awful rep for the FE series when you have other female characters like Mikaya and Lyndis who are actually important to their respective games.
But look at Melee. I didn't even know who he was until I did some background info on him. Then eventually, I warmed up to him and excepted him into Melee as a respected character.

The same could happen to you and Mia if she appears on Brawl. It could bro, it could.

EPHRAIM 4 BRAWL! MIA FOR BRAWL!
 

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Wow lolz Thats Harsh Only I played Nearly ALL of em (Except the two with Marth in it cuz I dont like him) and Characters that Die and get Game over or Fall in battle and Remain for the story tend to be Main Characters I.E Soren & Mist Main Characters are Neccesary for the survival and continuation of the story... Who else...Everyone in Lyndis' Party (Because I lost like 4 of em and they came back so that Lyndis could have people)

BTW in the SS even though Most royalty could die, they had a part in the main story one way or another including Innes L'Arachel and Joshua...

Now Give me your legitimate reason



Edit: Im Sorry Im actually a little upset....What about Naesala in the last one? He did much for the Storyline in my opinion anyone who does somthin GROUNDBREAKING or constantly is addressing the situation IN the storyline needed or not is a main Character....Reyson Main Character....Tibarn? Main Character....Matthew? Main Character....Clom and Neimi? Not main Characters....Seth, Titania? Main Characters.... Rath? Saved Lyndis' Life Neccessary to Story Main CHaracter even though they had minor Roles they Played HUGE parts Sothe is no exception as far as the second one goes and since he is on the Cover Im saying that his chances are upped due to him being a FE definition Main Character Major or not!

P.S are Piccolo, Krillin, Yamcha, Tien & Roshi Main Characters of DBZ?
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But look at Melee. I didn't even know who he was until I did some background info on him. Then eventually, I warmed up to him and excepted him into Melee as a respected character.

The same could happen to you and Mia if she appears on Brawl. It could bro, it could.

EPHRAIM 4 BRAWL! MIA FOR BRAWL!
It could happen but I highly highly doubt it.
 

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*Sigh* You know What? Put in Matthew for Coolness and We'll call it a Day BTW gimme Definition of a main Character....

Edit:Sothe is second on the list in the Japanese website but I quit Just play the game yourself...Im hungry

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By that logic, Ike would be the least important. Sothe is one of the first characters you get, so naturally he will be listed early. Some sites list him later.

From the sounds of it, you haven't read the plot, seen any videos or had any knowledge of the events of Radiant Dawn. Sothe fizzles out before the end of part 1. Ike and Macaiah lead for most of the game after that, with a few battles led by Elincia, Sanaki, Lucia (you heard me) and a few others.
 

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Read my Edit please and thank you BTW I just did some research Sothe comes back in a battle later on (I skimmed bcuz I dont wanna ruin the story) In bout 5 fights before last and It said YOu Lose if he dies THAT combined with the Main Character COnsidering him her Brother TOPPED with him being on the promotional cover art TOPPED with it not being Ike is enough for me
 

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Read my Edit please and thank you BTW I just did some research Sothe comes back in a battle later on (I skimmed bcuz I dont wanna ruin the story) In bout 5 fights before last and It said YOu Lose if he dies THAT combined with the Main Character COnsidering him her Brother TOPPED with him being on the promotional cover art TOPPED with it not being Ike is enough for me
Hmm that is interesting. I'm not going to pretend that I've played GoD, I've just skimmed over some information pertaining to it. I don't want the whole story spoiled for me.

Honestly Sothe seems to fall into the likes of Seth from FE8; if he dies you can get a gave over.

Sothe could be considered an important character; however he isn't the most important character. Compare to Mikaya/Ike.
 

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Tibarn FTW. XD I'm gonna love having him command my army.

But, seriously. I think Ephraim's got a chance, just not one that competes so well with Marth, Hector, Micaiah, Sigurd, Black Knight and maybe Lyn. That's a lot of very reasonable competition for him that covers basically every base he's offering.

He's got a unique weapon- So does Hector and Hector is a more popular FE character and is in a better game. His game also has the added bonus of being the first international FE.

He's popular-Basically everyone on that list is more popular than him (well, maybe not Micaiah.) How does he expect to compete with Marth, Sigurd and The Black Knight.

He's from a recent game-Black Knight and Micaiah definately beat him there.

He doesn't have Blue hair- I can't believe I've actually heard arguements like this, but they're there. Lyn beats him there. So does Micaiah (Black Knight wouldn't actually show you the color of his hair if he were in, but it's still blue.)

He's cool- So is Lyn. She's like a female ninja with a sword and a bow. That's pretty cool. Hector's more cool than him, too. And Sigurd. And the Black Knight. And Marth (IMO. Some people don't like Bishounen characters.)

Ephraim doesn't really offer anything that his competition doesn't.
 

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Hmm that is interesting. I'm not going to pretend that I've played GoD, I've just skimmed over some information pertaining to it. I don't want the whole story spoiled for me.

Honestly Sothe seems to fall into the likes of Seth from FE8; if he dies you can get a gave over.

Sothe could be considered an important character; however he isn't the most important character. Compare to Mikaya/Ike.
Your Tone Seems alot Softer but nobody has answered my question...WHat is your definition of a Main Character in FE
 
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