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[Ayaz18]

Cloudz is practicing melee now I think.

I just want to see how a 13 year old brawl players who's use to winning finds out he wont be winning in melee anytime soon.

idunno man I havn't been playing competitive melee for too long and i'm o.k, same with Niko he's already one of the most technical in the GTA already and he just started playing

melee is concrete and already has it's meta-game fully evolved. When your being combo'd the only thing that can save you is DI. In Brawl there are MANY more options to escape strings and combo's making it a more mental game than melee, regardless of the mobility options in melee.

Like I started this little rant i'm going to end it the same way "idunno" I havn't went too in-depth into melee to determine which game is better or "easier" but you can't say that this Cloudz guy won't be able to win in melee, he won't at first but in time he might be able too :-)



iunno it's my way of judgement

 

[Sanu]

idunno man I havn't been playing competitive melee for too long and i'm o.k, same with Niko he's already one of the most technical in the GTA already and he just started playing

I'm sorry, but lol?

No offense to Niko, but he's definitely not one of the most technical players in the GTA, powershield to rest notwithstanding <_<. Maybe one day though, if he actually gets serious.

 

[SpaceFalcon]

melee is concrete and already has it's meta-game fully evolved. When your being combo'd the only thing that can save you is DI. In Brawl there are MANY more options to escape strings and combo's making it a more mental game than melee, regardless of the mobility options in melee.

 

[Divinokage]

idunno man I havn't been playing competitive melee for too long and i'm o.k, same with Niko he's already one of the most technical in the GTA already and he just started playing

melee is concrete and already has it's meta-game fully evolved. When your being combo'd the only thing that can save you is DI. In Brawl there are MANY more options to escape strings and combo's making it a more mental game than melee, regardless of the mobility options in melee.

Like I started this little rant i'm going to end it the same way "idunno" I havn't went too in-depth into melee to determine which game is better or "easier" but you can't say that this Cloudz guy won't be able to win in melee, he won't at first but in time he might be able too :-)

iunno it's my way of judgement

You have a lot to learn.. if you think melee or brawl is in it's full metagame than you will stop evolving. And so you will fail at life and in any game. For example, who would of thought that I can go through shields in both games? lol. I'm learning with Ike how to shield stab people and it's hilarious.

 

[Lawlb0t]

Melee is still unfolding man -.- Didn't the tier list just change up a little?

 

[4Serial]

uhh i don't think niko just started playing, he's been playing for like a year or two

we need to melee niko, i haven't seen you in forever
and i don't think i've ever played you in brawl o_o we can play that game too i guess lol

 

[Deleted member]

lmaooooo i guarantee my fox is more technical than niko's, and i'll still 4-stock him with peach of course.

no offense to him though - he's not bad but like .. top technical??? lololllllllllllllllllll

i'd say melee has peaked for the most part. tier list changes at this point are gonna be negligable

 

[RaynEX]

ayaz you don't know what you're talking about.

also..

quote of the yeeeeeaaar

And so you will fail at life and in any game..

I duno why but this statement made me crack up. super kage logic ftw.

 

[Ayaz18]

well yeah I know I don't really have the right to judge melee but i'm just saying melee is pretty much made up and concrete..........

that to, i'm spitting random words on a 99% accuracy

just providing another "side" to the argument as all.

EDIT: wow Kage-logic is really in-depth. i'm on pot right now and thought that was the most revealing statement of the year

 

[Niko_K]

I'm definitely not the most technical

 

[Stos]

I'm definitely not the most technical

if we combine our tech skill together we can take down bernard.

*thinks*

i think.

 

[MisaMeka]

if we combine our tech skill together we can take down bernard.

*thinks*

i think.

I don't think you thought hard enough about that one. LOL

 

[idea]

1. silent

Spoiler

CLOCK

2. raynex (except in a way more important sense than #1)
3. ????
4. nothing goes here. not even that.

 

[Ayaz18]

well I didn't mean that he was the most technical but considering what small amounts of melee vids i have seen in the GTA, in my opinion I think Niko's tech-skill is up there with the community, not the best but certainly amazing for playing competitive melee for like what? a couple months.

I seriously think props are in order son!

iunno if it's a Niagara bias (prolly is) but powershield rest on command is pretty badass, same with wave-shines on my Falcon, and Shine Usmash on others.......


props are in order, give him respect for what he accomplished in such little time

 

[Stos]

1. Silent Stos
2. Stos
3. Stos

fixed for you =D

 

[idea]

fixed for you =D

oh ****, how'd i make so many typos

 

[Stos]

oh ****, how'd i make so many typos

well i do believe you should be first.
I mean like how do you take a rest and kill your opponent at the same time?
lol this reminds me of this combo i do with ganger in pokemon crystal version.
1) Sleep
2) Dream Eater
3) Rest (if taken damage once opponent wakes up)
4) Snore
*repeat*
lmfao.

 

[RaynEX]

I think there only 1 or 2 novelty things that SW can do that I can't on a good day. He's more consistent, but I feel I'm more fluid in the way my **** looks etc etc.

Oh and I think PC is really technical in the most subtle of ways. Like Bam...he just doesn't screw up and stuff. Thats basically what I'm trying to emulate.

 

[Grmo]

HAY

HAY YOU

LOOK AT ME

CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR AWESOME

I'M AMAZING FOR QUOTING MYSELF QUOTING JEFFMAN :flame: AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAA

yeah...

 

[Metà]

Oh and I think PC is really technical in the most subtle of ways. Like Bam...he just doesn't screw up and stuff. Thats basically what I'm trying to emulate.

I think the word you're looking for is 'precision'. There are many players that have the same level of 'tech skill' as him, but he applies his in the best way, makes the fewest makes, and maximizes the potential of everything he does (extremely precise and capitalizes on every mistake his opponent makes). He's almost like a robot, but he's more fun to watch than M2K. Also, he's the most creative Fox I've seen, and pulls off the sickest combos whether his opponent DI's properly or not (reads DI like it's nothing).

These are just my thoughts on PC Chris, and how amazing he is. Also I'm really bored and felt like writing a good paragraph. ._.

 

[RaynEX]

I still think being precise and punishing properly and being fast enough to react and do it all falls under tech. skill. The more you have the easier it is to ****. Because punishing with maximum damage comes naturally that way, in the sense that you have enough tech. skill to perform absolutely **** combos with your character. The problem is that people forget about the important **** and do all this extra novelty crap with their reflexes and speed that doesn't amount to anything.

I'm trying to teach Foxes these days that if you use tech. skill properly, and think about what you do as a Fox main - there honestly isn't a match-up in this game that you can't destroy. Once Fox's metagame reaches its peak, I imagine its going to be the style that I'm going after now.

which is basically, use tech. skill and your intelligence. Imagine if you had a player as technical as Silent Wolf and as smart as Azen? haha thats the new generation of smash.

 

[FastFox]

Just to let people know, I'm unsticking this thread, just because it's been stuck forever and I want to make some room.

@ Raynex's post:

I completely agree. Having a technical Fox doesn't mean reverse waveshining accross the stage for the whole match, or double-shining 50 times in a row. Sure, it's nice to be able to do that, but when it comes down to playing, that's not the definition of technicality.

I notice the presence of my technical skill the most when I'm applying pressure. Combos will just come in a burst of awesome, and then the follow-up usually looks and feels amazing.

 

[Niko_K]

....But reverse wave shining is so fun! xD

I need to re think how I play xD

 

[worldjem7]

Wrong thread.

 

[Yukiwarashi]

Wow, I got second for most missed in Brawl...? Dang....well, thanks to those who voted for me. =)