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(」・ω・)」 MARS la Marf in Smash 4 (/・ω・)/

Reizilla

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I'm sorry, Shaya, but did you say something just now?

*counts Shaya infractions*

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Reizilla

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Just watched that money match, Nike. You played well when you played well. But the you got Shliked :(
 

Player-3

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Marth boards are a primarily pony free zone.
Pony avatars need to be temporarily replaced while being active here or ELSE.
^

the show is good and all but there's no reason to spam it to people who don't want to have anything to do with it
 

Reizilla

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is good and all but there's no reason to
to people who don't want to have anything to
 

Leaf.

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lol, adblock avatars if it's REALLY that big of a deal.
tbh though I think anyone who would seriously adblock an avatar is like a homophobe.

And we all know the Marth boards know EVERYTHING about dealing with homophobes.
 

Vinylic.

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Well this has made the thread so good.

Nike mah boi, don't be so down. If it makes you feel better, you're not weird.

You're a good critic. And a good Marth Main.
 

Nike.

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I'm a terrible Marth main.

Painted some controllers last night.











Paint's still a little sticky, though :( Might just need to dry for a second day
 

Reizilla

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Showing off controllers, eh?

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Nike.

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There's a guy on smashboards that mods led lights. He knows how to solder and whatnot. It's on the "How to Paint a Controller" thread.
 

Roxas M

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2E9kT65ra4

Could you guys let me know everything you see wrong and everything you don't please?

also a side-note, the random SH retreating dairs are input errors that were supposed to be perfect retreating fairs. A combination of trying to be a tad too fast and a little anxious/being worried about safety
Why did you decide on going MK and CP delfino? I understand using MK on his CP, but you beat his pikachu both times when you used marth.

And another thing I noticed, why was he chaingrabbing you all over Castle siege? Unless there is something that the pika boards haven't mentioned, Pika should not be able to f-throw chaingrab marth that many times in a row. lol
 

Shaya

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when you grabbed esam on the moving platform on smashville at 130% you could have grab released to up air, or maybe usmash/fsmash... instead you back threw him... lol? You were like 30% at the time and then died first while esam was like 180%.

:|
 

Nike.

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No he did that because the platform wasn't moving towards that direction yet. ESAM mashes out quick and I think Kadaj just didn't take any chances. If ESAM did mash out in time, he would've landed on stage and all of a sudden Kadaj would be edgeguarded lol.

I agree with the throw (though, it shouldve been dthrow instead lol)
 

Shaya

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No he did that because the platform wasn't moving towards that direction yet. ESAM mashes out quick and I think Kadaj just didn't take any chances. If ESAM did mash out in time, he would've landed on stage and all of a sudden Kadaj would be edgeguarded lol.

I agree with the throw (though, it shouldve been dthrow instead lol)
It was a very short time after he GRABBED him that the platform turned around.
Remember there are 50 frames before pika can do anything. Uair, fsmash and usmash may have still been possible.
 

PEACE7

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@ Kadaj
When Pikachu is at 13% grab him and dthrow to tipper fsmash it works for me a lot.
Watch your upB's it left you open a couple of times, be more patient and more upB oos.
Try to vary the way which you fall in with your airdodges.
Against Icies, counter beats blizzard so aim for the middle of the attack and a well spaced nair I believe also beats it. Icies are sooo gay <_<.

Slants make F-throw CGs better since they won't be in the air and be able to jump away/they will have a few more frames of lag as they land. I CG'd Kadaj on Castle Siege for 2 grabs because the stage was slanted.
 

_Kadaj_

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Throw that P***y at me? B***h I think Im Babe Ruth
Why did you decide on going MK and CP delfino? I understand using MK on his CP, but you beat his pikachu both times when you used marth.

And another thing I noticed, why was he chaingrabbing you all over Castle siege? Unless there is something that the pika boards haven't mentioned, Pika should not be able to f-throw chaingrab marth that many times in a row. lol
Yeah Pika can CG with Slants, and I went MK on Delfino because it was as close as I kinda expected it to be on Frigate so I wanted to try it again, but on somewhere with a higher ceiling to avoid thunder bs

when you grabbed esam on the moving platform on smashville at 130% you could have grab released to up air, or maybe usmash/fsmash... instead you back threw him... lol? You were like 30% at the time and then died first while esam was like 180%.

:|
His mashing is very fast and he was mashing before I had even grabbed him, so I already knew he was going to break out

@ Kadaj
When Pikachu is at 13% grab him and dthrow to tipper fsmash it works for me a lot.
Watch your upB's it left you open a couple of times, be more patient and more upB oos.
Try to vary the way which you fall in with your airdodges.
Against Icies, counter beats blizzard so aim for the middle of the attack and a well spaced nair I believe also beats it. Icies are sooo gay <_<.
Yeah I have to keep that in mind
 

-Jumpman-

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I'd like to ask a question. Why is the advice you, the Marth boards, give based almost entirely on the technical aspect of the game? Situations such as the one with the platform on Smashville only occur once in a set. And while they're important, they're not deciding factors. The cause of the problem, in this case Kadaj's loss, probably lies in fundamental aspects of the game, such as reads, and most likely are structural.

In case you're inclined to reply to my hypothesis, don't. I will repeat my question: why is the advice you, the Marth boards, give based almost entirely on the technical aspect of the game?
 

Shaya

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Well, going in depth in terms of mind games + reads take time and effort especially when the person in question isn't terribad.
I would have wanted to (may still do) something a bit better, but I only just watched the first 3 matches and was in a rush.

Bringing up technical things is definitely worthwhile. Even though Esam was mashing like crazy, I'm pretty sure kadaj would have still gotten an air release he could have capitalised on. That's why I'm bringing that up. I believe he chose the wrong option.

Option choosing is often the main crux of critiquing players rather than their ability to read / reaction speed. Grab releasing esam on a moving platform wasn't technical in the slightest.
 

∫unk

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@kadaj
for marth you could have used f-smash better... maybe even stutter step it? just learning all the correct punishes and knowing when you can go for it

for mk you need to get better at shuttle loop cancelling and floating away with the cancel etc. etc. also glide mixups need to be better

In general instead of always going for pressure when he's in a bad situation I think you should mix up baiting him into an option and counterattacking that
 
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