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(」・ω・)」 MARS la Marf in Smash 4 (／・ω・)／
- Thread starter Virgilijus
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Enzo
Smash Lord
boorrrrrrrrrring
Zano
Smash Master
Marth vs Ganondorf
discussion go!
discussion go!
dean.
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Watch out for dash attack. And uair.
xxmoosexx
Smash Lord
Run up to him and shield. He has no options lulz.
Enzo
Smash Lord
^ ever heard of grab or side-b
Oh yeaH.
Oh yeaH.
moose what are you talking about
he can easily TK 2C cross-up you into aerial command grab oki. in fact his mix-up options around just j2C are absurd. he can TK 2C initiative heat into choke oki, he can even normal jump j2C to delay it, and j2C is jump cancelable so he can double jump mix-up also.
2C has like +5 on block and if it hits you're just gonna be forced to lose guard meter with his BS with the risk of getting command grabbed as usual. if he lands j2C his 4.2K jC combo into wizard's foot forces you into the corner where you can eat his jab nonsense because chip damage is so much fun.
if you jump he can just 623C that ****, because that's his OTHER aerial command grab. 623CC is a real srk that nets into a dumb as **** 7K combo, basically game over.
If he does TK wizard foot (j214C) is such a dumb mix-up, its range is huge, and it can be done as a delayed overhead that comes out in 11 frames (!) AND nets a 3.5K combo? wtf?
let's not mention his 5B is a wallslam, controls a huge amount of space in front, and his arguably one of his best ground-to-grounds. 5C is just a troll move, but if you roman cancel that **** it's 10k combo.
His air-to-air game is stupid too. jB all day. You thought Captain Falcon's jB loop into jC knee combo was stupid? Well Ganon's isn't that much off.
With so much mix-up power, the only thing offsetting is that he has no airdash, slow movement, and is huge. but unfair blockstrings, lolbosschar mix-ups, and ****ing 5k scrub BnBs everywhere? wow, please stop.
obv
he can easily TK 2C cross-up you into aerial command grab oki. in fact his mix-up options around just j2C are absurd. he can TK 2C initiative heat into choke oki, he can even normal jump j2C to delay it, and j2C is jump cancelable so he can double jump mix-up also.
2C has like +5 on block and if it hits you're just gonna be forced to lose guard meter with his BS with the risk of getting command grabbed as usual. if he lands j2C his 4.2K jC combo into wizard's foot forces you into the corner where you can eat his jab nonsense because chip damage is so much fun.
if you jump he can just 623C that ****, because that's his OTHER aerial command grab. 623CC is a real srk that nets into a dumb as **** 7K combo, basically game over.
If he does TK wizard foot (j214C) is such a dumb mix-up, its range is huge, and it can be done as a delayed overhead that comes out in 11 frames (!) AND nets a 3.5K combo? wtf?
let's not mention his 5B is a wallslam, controls a huge amount of space in front, and his arguably one of his best ground-to-grounds. 5C is just a troll move, but if you roman cancel that **** it's 10k combo.
His air-to-air game is stupid too. jB all day. You thought Captain Falcon's jB loop into jC knee combo was stupid? Well Ganon's isn't that much off.
With so much mix-up power, the only thing offsetting is that he has no airdash, slow movement, and is huge. but unfair blockstrings, lolbosschar mix-ups, and ****ing 5k scrub BnBs everywhere? wow, please stop.
obv
xxmoosexx
Smash Lord
Too bad you can side step before his frames start up.
If he tries to grab you and you don't have time to react you ran up too close up.
@Viet
Too bad Marth can use his Super and blast his *** to the next millennium because his super meter gets filled up with two bars every time marth even takes a step. And his Super is probably the most broken in the game because he receives a block + bonus and gets +7 on block added to every move he uses. His super cuts recovery frames by 85% on every move and opens a larger window of buffering and allows FACD to be used without limit and his cR and cJ both recieve a damage boost and more range.
His jF already has mad mixups and receives a damage boost and faster recovery time.
And in this matchup Marth gets his Ultra and Super Meters full at the very sight of Ganon.
TL;DR Marth has buttsecks with Ganon.
Obv.
If he tries to grab you and you don't have time to react you ran up too close up.
@Viet
Too bad Marth can use his Super and blast his *** to the next millennium because his super meter gets filled up with two bars every time marth even takes a step. And his Super is probably the most broken in the game because he receives a block + bonus and gets +7 on block added to every move he uses. His super cuts recovery frames by 85% on every move and opens a larger window of buffering and allows FACD to be used without limit and his cR and cJ both recieve a damage boost and more range.
His jF already has mad mixups and receives a damage boost and faster recovery time.
And in this matchup Marth gets his Ultra and Super Meters full at the very sight of Ganon.
TL;DR Marth has buttsecks with Ganon.
Obv.
unfortunately the super glitch is fixed in the arcade version.
marth lacks mix-ups, he literally is the definition of a scrubby flowchart character. also marth has is respectable pressure but his mix-ups can be seen a mile away. it's one thing to be afraid of marth, it's another to be so scared you piss your pantsu lose your eyesight and let naifu clip away at your raifu like you're some sorry man who lost a waifu.
marth lacks mix-ups, he literally is the definition of a scrubby flowchart character. also marth has is respectable pressure but his mix-ups can be seen a mile away. it's one thing to be afraid of marth, it's another to be so scared you piss your pantsu lose your eyesight and let naifu clip away at your raifu like you're some sorry man who lost a waifu.
xxmoosexx
Smash Lord
Who plays arcade version anymore?
ppfff :I
ppfff :I
Enzo
Smash Lord
Last like 3 posts have probly been the ugliest walls of text ive seen yet on SWF
cept BPC's
JK JK
cept BPC's
JK JK
Zano
Smash Master
my head sploded from those walls o text posts
Enzo
Smash Lord
where do you find nice looking pokemon sprites >.>
booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooor
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booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooor
inb4banned
so VietGeek, how did you feel about your one true love wearing NORMAL CLOTHES?
wasn't she AMAZINGLY CUTE?
wasn't she AMAZINGLY CUTE?
Saki-
Reset Project
Ohh Oreimo discussion? Or are we talking about that uhhhhhh girl from Haruhi that I can't believe I forgot.
xxmoosexx
Smash Lord
Oreimo?
Haruhi?
Haruhi?
xxmoosexx
Smash Lord
Well I found out who Oreimo was...
xxmoosexx
Smash Lord
Well al i saw was some orange haired chick. So there.
and Haruhi is a bunch of chicks that play guitar or something
and Haruhi is a bunch of chicks that play guitar or something
dean.
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Oreimo is a series. The 'orange haired chick' is a character from said series.
And you're thinking about K-On with that last line.
And you're thinking about K-On with that last line.
yeah well she died in episode 1
Oro?!
Smash Hero
Is something relevant going to be talked about here ever?
Saki-
Reset Project
lol
If you're caught up...
I hope you're ready for the party episode.
Hmm, talking about something Marth related usually gets bashed in some way.
However I am curious as to how you Marth BBR members are starting to believe that we might have an advantage over Snake. I don't even see how this is a close/fun matchup. :/
by asking that it is clear you are expected something irrelevant to this thread to be relevantly spoken of in some sort of fashion
never too excited for animu however
wait it can
always caught up
never too excited for animu however
wait it can
Nike.
Smash Hero
Sup guise :3
makoforce
Smash Ace
snake really cant hit us if we zone him lol. thats how i feel
xxmoosexx
Smash Lord
We can't exactly hit him either IMO.
Any aerial eats an ftilt or utilt.
For that matter the only thing that outranges his monstrous ftilt is shield breaker.
I figure we have to bait an attack and hit him in the respectable recovery time his moves have. Then juggle to offstage gimp/WoP
That and zoning...lol..GRENADES beat zoning...lol SNAKEDASH beats zoning...lol...DASH ATTACK beats zoning...
Any aerial eats an ftilt or utilt.
For that matter the only thing that outranges his monstrous ftilt is shield breaker.
I figure we have to bait an attack and hit him in the respectable recovery time his moves have. Then juggle to offstage gimp/WoP
That and zoning...lol..GRENADES beat zoning...lol SNAKEDASH beats zoning...lol...DASH ATTACK beats zoning...
Saki-
Reset Project
By saying Snake can't hit us, makes me think we can't hit Snake. His close game combat is sooo much better than ours.
Like Moose pointed out, tilts eat our aerials.
in an ideal match it would seem the best way to win would be to shield grab when snake pulls/holds grenades and powershield stupid tilts and stuff for anytime you're not shield grabbing. :V Stuff like that doesn't work though.
Like Moose pointed out, tilts eat our aerials.
in an ideal match it would seem the best way to win would be to shield grab when snake pulls/holds grenades and powershield stupid tilts and stuff for anytime you're not shield grabbing. :V Stuff like that doesn't work though.
Zano
Smash Master
Marth is obv one of Snakes worse MUs, the kids in free play over at AiB said so
xxmoosexx
Smash Lord
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