(」・ω・)」 MARS la Marf in Smash 4 (／・ω・)／

[Remzi]

Another important thing I forgot to mention is instant-throwing, not sure old that is, but its a must learn these days.

But about true pivoting.

What you basically do is cancel the start of a fox-trot by moving the analog in the opposite direction of the fox trot. After moving it in the opposite direction, if you bring the analog back to neutral within two (?) frames of that input, your character will be in a standing position, facing backwards with absolutely all of his options open.

If you fail to get it back to neutral within two frames, he'll start a dash in the opposite direction, which is a lot easier and still very useful. You can use this to bait a landing in a certain direction and punish with usmash or an aerial. To dash > fsmash in either direction quite easily. Retreating pivot grab. A simple feint. Or to approach/wall with a pretty much autospaced bair.

Its pretty awesome and still underused at this point. I personally do it a lot. My most common applications of it involve bair and it makes Fsmash a LOT more useful as well.

 

[Remzi]

people have been using platform canceling since the game came out

retreating aerials was ****ing 07 metagame and the game wasnt even out yet

what does that mean people have figured out marths walls. with marths tools there are a ton of things he could do when he zones someone, its not the same thing over and over. people can read it or use a good option to get past it but its not like its just 'figured out'

NOBODY used platform canceling for a very long time. It was discovered in the first few weeks of brawl, but literally nobody used it. Mike was the first to apply it well, but as Nike said, Mr. R really started the platform canceling revolution. And not just for Marths, for everybody.

Yea, retreating aerials are used LESS now is what I'm saying. People break through and punish walls (that don't involve bananas or nades) a lot better now. Basically, things like Marth's shdfair are almost non-existant, and throwing out a series of fairs or nairs to wall when you have a lead is pretty much a no-no as well. Marths walls get exploited quickly.

zoning =/= walling. Marths playstyle still revolves around zoning and taking away options, but he doesn't do it via walling.

 

[Reizilla]

New Marth metagame = play Metaknight

 

[Steel]

well i used it lol. whatever i forgot i don't care. who is going to MLG dallas? i'm debating going to just see people

 

[Pierce7d]

wtf. I used Plat Canceling on 08 as soon as I learned it from Neo.

The EUs just look the sexiest while doing it.

It is true that walling isn't as much of Marth's metagame as it was in 08. It mainly focuses on offensive pressure strings and maintaining advantage after landing the first hit.

 

[Nike.]

Me and raziek are teaming for mlg x)

 

[VietGeek]

Heaven help me I'm actually thinking of playing this game again.

And in tournies no less. smh.

Need something to do while I wait for Super Street Fighter 4 DLC balance patch and new character patch.

let's play mashy blood el

 

[Emblem Lord]

Ok, wow. lol. Walling as in just sitting there throwing out moves and forcing them to get past it. Oh my bad. Yeah that only works vs bad players/chars. I was thinking more of just spacing in general and honing in on certain ranges and locking people down. Similar but not the same.

 

[Sovereign]

@Sov

I like Renji. Gin and Uliquorra are my fav's.
Sorry if I murdered the spelling.
Uliq reminds me of marth. Byakuya is too snooty IMO.

Byakuya is not snooty. He's one of the most real characters in the anime, imo, but I'm a fanboy, what do I know, especially since I don't even watch or read about Bleach. All I know is Byakuya.

Also, these boards get a lot of activity. I'm gonna like comin' around here.

 

[**Havok**]

New on TES!

MLG D.C. Tournament Report Part 4- The Finale!


Cuz Marth is sooooooo cool

 

[Pierce7d]

ABOUT **** TIME HAVOK!!!!!

/ragewait

 

[Angel.M <3 C:]

steel,emblem lord, pierce, and the year "08" in the last page. oh man i'm liking this thread all over again. <3 no more of that ******** way off topic discussion. (:

 

[Pierce7d]

I'm feeling a takeover about to go down. Neo where you at?

 

[_Kadaj_]

Lol Steel see what people assume when vids aren't uploaded?

Mr. R started the platform cancel revolution? LOL

But I started using red after Pound 4, I just got tired of using the same color as everyone else

 

[burnerboyaccount]

I know none of you know me i mostly lurk but i was checking the last 10ish~ pages and WOW
dont wanan sound like a meatrider but str8 up blm was just defending his case against p-3, clow, and chaosmarth

 

[Nike.]

I use red marth.

 

[Enzo]

did someone say i got banned

 

[Nike.]

Not gonne lie, that was **** lol

 

[_Kadaj_]

Noooo Nike, why!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Angel.M <3 C:]

I know none of you know me i mostly lurk but i was checking the last 10ish~ pages and WOW
dont wanan sound like a meatrider but str8 up blm was just defending his case against p-3, clow, and chaosmarth

defending what? that he threw this whole thread of course? I don't wanna get into this whole thing again, but its something you have to have read back at least 20pages to understand.

 

[Nike.]

I've mained red marth since 06 when I saw my first Ken video

 

[_Kadaj_]

Oh well, your like 1 of 5 that actually use Red anyway xD

 

[Enzo]

At any rate i'm gonna drop the whole situation with chaosmarth, shaya, laurel, p-3, clowsui, and any1 else who still truly hates me on these boards

And i'll try to minimize op discussion

 

[Pierce7d]

I mained Green since Melee. Neo was the red roy, I dunno where he gets off with this green Marth ish.

Green is obviously my favorite color, and it looks great on Marth

Spoiler

no homo

 

[Angel.M <3 C:]

I mained Green since Melee. Neo was the red roy, I dunno where he gets off with this green Marth ish.

Green is obviously my favorite color, and it looks great on Marth

Spoiler

no homo

He played black marth in melee iirc

 

[Remzi]

Ok, wow. lol. Walling as in just sitting there throwing out moves and forcing them to get past it. Oh my bad. Yeah that only works vs bad players/chars. I was thinking more of just spacing in general and honing in on certain ranges and locking people down. Similar but not the same.

Well I wasn't really talking about just mindlessly throwing out aerials, though a lot of Marths did actually used to do that (and some probably still do). My definition of walling is not necessarily aiming to hit, but putting out hitboxes in front of them so that if they try to approach they get hit. Doesn't have to be mindless, but either way, it doesn't work so well anymore. Marth relies on pressure and exploiting positional advantage. He's one of the best at keeping his momentum going and abusing someone once he has them where he wants them.

Some matchups, such as MK however, are IMO won by patient play and a **** ton of baiting. Pressure gets you ***** against MK and a few others. But yea, you get the idea.

Lol Steel see what people assume when vids aren't uploaded?

Mr. R started the platform cancel revolution? LOL

As much as some people don't want to believe it, it was Mr. R's videos that sparked a lot of people to learn platform canceling and it spread like wild-fire from there.

I'm not saying that he was the first to use it, but he started that "revolution" if you will.

*EDIT: More people gotta rep that light blue. It's just like... Chaz and I.

Anyone else I don't know about that rocks light blue?

 

[_Kadaj_]

He played Green Marth in melee too lol

Video wise yeah Bengals, but actual usage was in 08 way before the videos xD

 

[Raziek]

Me and raziek are teaming for mlg x)

This obviously implies that Nike and I are both going to MLG.

Laurel is too, and Mike, so we have at least 4 Marths. I can't think of any reason why Pierce wouldn't, so 5? xD

@Bengals - BLUE MAAARTH!

 

[Angel.M <3 C:]

This obviously implies that Nike and I are both going to MLG.

Laurel is too, and Mike, so we have at least 4 Marths. I can't think of any reason why Pierce wouldn't, so 5? xD

BLUE MAAARTH

pierce is a ref lmfao.


i wish i was going x__________x;


/superh8

 

[Espy Rose]

Whenever I play with Marth, I go regular blue.

 

[Enzo]

<3 philanator
rei is my nakama

 

[ChaosKnight]

oh obv im coming back too and i used red marth since 05 GTFO

 

[Pierce7d]

I hope Kadaj also goes. Havok as well, even though he's a hybrid.

 

[Enzo]

I hope kadaj attempts to use theCG

 

[VietGeek]

everyone knows platform cancels existed before even brawl's time obv

 

[Pierce7d]

I hope Kadaj mindgames them on the 9th CG, and charges a Usmash to **** their spotdodge

 

[Nike.]

Or run past them to pivot grab the spotdodge.

 

[_Kadaj_]

I plan on going Pierce I'll know for sure after this weekend, and if I go I WILL be using the CG lol

Maybe even some GR to Dair tech chases after the CG?

 

[Emblem Lord]

I have reached a dilemma. I don't know what color I should rep for my return.

Serious dilemma IMO.

 

[_Kadaj_]

Yo EL I think I may have fixed my Ps3 connection