Doesn't Fair > Uair > Utilt work in normal Brawl? I swear to Sakurai it did.
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(」・ω・)」 MARS la Marf in Smash 4 (／・ω・)／
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Thunder Of Zeus
*Rumble Rumble*
I should use his utilt, I just don't.
In the process of you talking down on people you make yourself sound like an elitist.
Albert.
Smash Master
Marth's uptilt is amazing!
Oh yes, THE SHAYA COMBO v0.2
(jk)
That **** is awesome. But Utilt otherwise is a rarity except against those that fail in the air (in terms of range).
stop being so obsessed, its more situational don't make me become the judas of your disciples =P
hippiedude92
Smash Hero
lol yay! idr how you look like though so i forgot, ruk has me on facebook so its k.
i was gonna take that homo chinatown round bus to MA but said nah, i have mom/age/money/azn/sucking etc johns
i can't ever land it consistently lol.
§leepy God
Smash Master
♪ It kills, it makes people mad, I love it.
† ♪ I just wish it had more range or I wouldn't use it more. D: †
Thunder Of Zeus
*Rumble Rumble*
That's exactly my problem... I have to be really careful with the joystick when I push it up and can't use it on the run like upsmash. The hitbox is sick, but I just fail with it.
Nightshine
Smash Journeyman
Melee anything is **** lol.
Melee Marth doesnt have an utilt. He has an e-tilt aka everywhere tilt. There isnt a place that tilt didnt hit in melee.
At least to me.
And then there is Brawl utilt. That cant even match the animation's range...
At least its a common move for ME personally.
At least to me.
And then there is Brawl utilt. That cant even match the animation's range...
At least its a common move for ME personally.
adumbrodeus
Smash Legend
Problem is, they never really showed it in battle animation, at least in the original, dunno about the new one.
Not really, a lot of his attacks had their animation pulled directly from his FE animation.
Punishment Divine
Smash Champion
Marth's utilt is his most reliable kill move
How many animations does FE actually have?
Critical Hit, RUN IN SLASH... not many others.
Most of those are replicated in Dancing Blade. And remember, many of DB's strike animations look like Marth's utilt, fsmash, etc.
And Marth's utilt is -not- his most reliable kill move.
I'd hate to throw around bias, but NAIR, BAIR, DOLPHIN SLASH and (shock*horror) FMASH get a lot of people's kills. A lot more than utilt.
Even though utilt kills are god **** sexy.
Critical Hit, RUN IN SLASH... not many others.
Most of those are replicated in Dancing Blade. And remember, many of DB's strike animations look like Marth's utilt, fsmash, etc.
And Marth's utilt is -not- his most reliable kill move.
I'd hate to throw around bias, but NAIR, BAIR, DOLPHIN SLASH and (shock*horror) FMASH get a lot of people's kills. A lot more than utilt.
Even though utilt kills are god **** sexy.
isnt it obvious
they gave a guy a sword and was like
we will make him.. swing it
when you press forward he swings it forward backwards he turns so he can swing it effectively backwards and down he swings it down, up he swings it up, neutral he swings it around to buy himself cover
on the ground its the same thing
they gave a guy a sword and was like
we will make him.. swing it
when you press forward he swings it forward backwards he turns so he can swing it effectively backwards and down he swings it down, up he swings it up, neutral he swings it around to buy himself cover
on the ground its the same thing
Lol. Bair and Dolphin Slash dont count in my game anymore. LOLOL.
Utilt and Uair neither.
We should make Dash Attack kill.
Punishment Divine
Smash Champion
DS is unreliable because it can get you punished. I rarely kill with fsmash unless it's tipped (which I tend to do a lot these days, yayy spacing getting better!)
Utilt is amazing because you can throw it out in many situations. When getting crossed up, baiting an AD, in between juggles, and when they're behind you. Most of my straight-up kills come from utilt and bair. Nair kills are so satisfying but i only really hit them on characters trying to regain stage control after getting ***** off the ledge.
∫unk
Smash Master
u-tilt isn't amazing because spacing ***** it
i can't explain how homo it is to kill someone in socal they will camp you so hard
that's why f-smash is amazing
west cooaaaaasssst
i can't explain how homo it is to kill someone in socal they will camp you so hard
that's why f-smash is amazing
west cooaaaaasssst
Thunder Of Zeus
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DS OoS can be safe against certain moves. You can true combo aerial grab release into DS on MK (and probably others, but I don't really know anything).
Usmash can do all of those things.
Nightshine
Smash Journeyman
at Neko
I have actually killed with Dash Attack lol! I remebered it cause i was not expecting it to happen.
Was fighting my friend who was playing Snake and I had him in the air on FD, he decided to go and land on the opposite side and I go over and Dash attack his legs as he was landing and it tipped and killed.
It was his last stock too
I have actually killed with Dash Attack lol! I remebered it cause i was not expecting it to happen.
Was fighting my friend who was playing Snake and I had him in the air on FD, he decided to go and land on the opposite side and I go over and Dash attack his legs as he was landing and it tipped and killed.
It was his last stock too
and usmash can stage spike.
Too bad the end lag makes it's versatility less of that of Utilts.
That and the reward for landing usmash isnt that great. e__e
...!!!??at Neko
I have actually killed with Dash Attack lol! I remebered it cause i was not expecting it to happen.
Was fighting my friend who was playing Snake and I had him in the air on FD, he decided to go and land on the opposite side and I go over and Dash attack his legs as he was landing and it tipped and killed.
It was his last stock too
You...can TIPPER DASH ATTACK!?
Thunder Of Zeus
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I dont think the reward is the same. Maybe I've been in more situations where usmash gave me less favorable results/utilt gave me more favorable results.
But I don't agree with you, unfortunately.
adumbrodeus
Smash Legend
Be nice please.
Ok guys, cut it out. No Peach boards drama, or worse yet, Sonic boards drama.
It's cool for low percent platform-based juggling (before Uair time), and killing with miffed spacing, I like it still, though it may partially be my obsession with melee uptilt. God, I love that move.
I'm hurt, I'm bad at finding people on FB. BTW, you're eligible for being my FB friend since gametable.
Ruk isn't though, we still haven't met up and smashed, even though he PROMISED to teach me to enjoy marth dittos. *is hurt more*
We need to have a NY (specifically city area) Marths smashfest before summer's over.
AZN jons and mom jons are the same (it's all about the azn parents, believe me, I know).
If I spot you the money for the bus, will you come?
Just takes practice, believe me, took me a while before I could use it consistently. But it also helps with melee and brawl.
Pretty much, I play melee a lot, including tournaments, and you'll see me uptilt ALL THE TIME.
Nair.
GG
They sort of re-use the animations, except slightly edited. Most of them are derived from his ingame animations.
I'd go with utilt over f-smash personally, and don't forget downslash.
Dolphin slash is a move you basically never have to use unless its guarenteed, and you shouldn't (except on recovery).
But it's a great punish-killer, I bait... well anything, then dolphin slash to kill if the percent is too high. Though sometimes I phail to shield in time, and get ***** by Snake's ftilt (Rykoshet, if you're reading, yes, I'm referencing those matches, and yes, I realize that the odds of you reading this increased from astronomical to possible by me mentioning your name).
Work on nair though, it's an amazing move, and you can sub it for fair a lot since it's got similar frontal coverage.
Thunder Of Zeus
*Rumble Rumble*
Usmash is more visually noticable than Utilt making it easier to react too imo. The fact that utilt comes out on 6 and usmash comes out on twice that doesnt help either.
The overall range of utilt (to my eyes) is better than usmash. Utilt has less wind down as well
The situations that I use Utilt for usually grant be better rewards than usmash on an almost normal basis.
I just think that alot of the things usmash and utilt can do, utilt does it better. Comboing, Bait and Punish ADs, Platform poking, juggling, to name some.
Hell, Even Utilt has better DPS than Usmash simply because that's how most utilts work in Brawl.
That's just my personal opinion. It was like this to me in Brawl as well.
I used to joke that the only time a Marth does an Usmash is when he messes up an utilt.
Viquey
Smash Journeyman
Wow this thread very suddenly got a lot of activity. that or I got caught in a timewarp. XD
Anyway.
@GHNeko: I got some dash attack KO's and near-KO's in some B+ friendlies the other day. xD But yeah, again that's B+ so eh.
@General: DYK that Marth's sword isn't actually a falchion? This is a falchion.
Also, I <3 utilt. It IS hard to do without accidentally jumping or usmashing instead. Especially with how sensitive my control stick is. But it's worth it. I find it kills more consistently than usmash, but usmash might be a little stale. Plus it's a speedy little bugger. <3
Anyway.
@GHNeko: I got some dash attack KO's and near-KO's in some B+ friendlies the other day. xD But yeah, again that's B+ so eh.
@General: DYK that Marth's sword isn't actually a falchion? This is a falchion.
Also, I <3 utilt. It IS hard to do without accidentally jumping or usmashing instead. Especially with how sensitive my control stick is. But it's worth it. I find it kills more consistently than usmash, but usmash might be a little stale. Plus it's a speedy little bugger. <3
Thunder Of Zeus
*Rumble Rumble*
Okay, I understand now. Thanks ^_^
...Don't uthrow kills happen near 200% in Brawl...?
ChaosKnight
Smash Master
LOL wow ..... if you cant kill till then
oh right i might enter a bawrl tourney this sat since im bored cause school hasnt started
Nightshine
Smash Journeyman
Any throw kill for Marth is unecessary. By the time you can throw kill someone they could have been killed earlier by pretty much any move at that point especialy if they DI your throws. Yeah they're fun but you'll most likely take more damage than you need to.
@CK
whats with the gif pic in your sig lol?
@CK
whats with the gif pic in your sig lol?
adumbrodeus
Smash Legend
Tippered fair kills earlier.
it's his drunk friends iirc
ChaosKnight
Smash Master
nah those are other smashers i hang out with that was otakon 09 and i got them all drunk off a half bottle vodka and got them to do a very awkward thriller dance lol .....
i drank the other half of the bottle and didnt even get that drunk but man that sushi mixed with the bottle made my stomach churn after i went ot the rave then it hit me
Thunder Of Zeus
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Speaking of which, I love you signature.
Nightshine
Smash Journeyman
LOL
That makes me sad now lol. I was going to go to Oktakon this year but I got sick >.>
That makes me sad now lol. I was going to go to Oktakon this year but I got sick >.>