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ZSS General Discussion

Tesh

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Well Dsmash is so lagless, I'm sure there would be potential follow ups if they are invincible when the hitbox comes out.
 
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honestly the best followup to an ftilt trip has basically always been to TRY for the dsmash, since even if you mess up/they roll away the option is completely safe. in other words there's 0 risk and a 40% DMG reward
 

.EXE

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I'm saying to try it for yourself also most of it depends on where they're going whether they tumble towards you or away from you and try a boosted up B.
 

Cassio

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Sup folks.

Since you probably wont hear about this otherwise, a ZSS main from norcal named Cygnet beat Zex yesterday. He doesnt lose often up there so it was a bit of an upset. Only detail I know so far is that Zex did go MK.
 

.EXE

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@ Dakpo Boosted jump off of the characters head (while holding an armor piece) and then another into magnify throw armor piece down and D Air.

Do you think it could cancel/work? I am trying it on snake on FD as I write also listening to Final battle paper mario TTYD. Maybe Zss turn out like sonic TESH you scum >: ( I don't know maybe you want to try it as well.

I gave up only because I got annoyed at the level 3 comp this can easily be solved by going into training mode but ugh =___=
 

.EXE

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Someone have to tell me how to approach ZSS, it's impossibru!
Learn your opponent/character see how they move and get inside that's the best I can really say other than that get her above you may be harder for her to reach the ground she doesn't have thee best aerial control like wario.

If that doesn't work Pick MK get her off the stage and do a nice and well spaced Diar : )

What are all these noises oh yeah fireworks I forgot victoria day.

Lol @ Nick Riddles Comment
 

Imperion

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Someone have to tell me how to approach ZSS, it's impossibru!
Hah! Cant handle me on a daily basis, so you go to the enemy for help? :p bAAstard!

I have a bad tendency to be overly-agressive sometimes, and allmost everytime now it seems when i use a dash attack, theres allways a frikkin downthrow + dsmash oos. Your a tricky player, but you can be abit too easy to read sometimes. Try mixing it up abit more.
 

Imperion

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On another note:

Have you guys allways played ZSS, or did her revelation strike you at a later time? :p

edit: Sorry for double post
 

PEACE7

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At alex I guess it depends on your character and at the beginning of the match don't just rush in, think and react.
 

Alexander89s

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At alex I guess it depends on your character and at the beginning of the match don't just rush in, think and react.
What I'm really looking for, is an answer of how to stop ZSS space me. She is so damn fast, and when I'm closing in on her, I'm not the one doing damage :p

I'm using Mr. Game & Watch. And ^ my friend is playing a really aggressive ZSS. The beginning can be a nightmare, I'm glad if I get control of her suit pieces so I can do some damage on her or throw them out of the map.

I try to approach her with a SH b-air or a n-air, and these 2 attacks are the only way I have some sort of success with. Sadly my friend have started to punish my SH b-air and n-air with grabs when i try to approach and that f#### me really up.

Mr G & Ws dash is really bad against ZSS, and I usually get stunned or side-b.
If I try to approach from the above with down air I get u-smashed or up-b into a combo.
 

.EXE

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You try powershielding if you're approaching on the ground? I really don't advise this because she has answers for things like that and reading your opponent dunno if that will help but practice spacing yourself against her takes time especially with that back air. TBH I would really like to see a match between you and your friend to me GNW is a joke character lol Get your friend up on here I wanna meet them! xD I'm laughing at how much trouble this character is causing.

22 people were viewing Zss character discussion before I wrote this all other mains should be jelly!
 

BioDG

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Since you guys apparently play all the time, you should see if you can get some matches recorded and uploaded. That can help us out for figuring out what you could do. GW board should be able to help as well if it's active.
 

.EXE

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He is having trouble with Imperion.

:phone:
Since you guys apparently play all the time, you should see if you can get some matches recorded and uploaded. That can help us out for figuring out what you could do. GW board should be able to help as well if it's active.

Lol IMPERION way to go! thank you Nick.

GNW board active? lol all I imagine are lots of clicks and beeps!
 

PEACE7

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Let's set up a date for all of us to be online on the skype group and talk about stuff, that **** is dead and I don't like it :c
 

.EXE

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You don't need a webcam man and get ittttt
Also HAPPY BDAY TO OUR ***** MINK!!

Happy B day to our ***** Mink ....... Hmmm I usually don't like playing hangman lol
anyways Happy Birthday Papa Mink The Sexy Diety make sure you did something for yourself on that day. You loving ***** of an Emerald! Hmmm can't say prostitute with a "W"?

About the skype thingy I don't actually mind I just hope I'm not expected to play I hate button Dely and sadly as much as I am talking here I probably wont say anything as I do more observing one of my strong points.
 

PEACE7

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We don't play each other lol we just talk about zss stuff music .etc, it used to be more active a while back but now its so dead.
 

.EXE

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We don't play each other lol we just talk about zss stuff music .etc, it used to be more active a while back but now its so dead.


I'm usually super nervous if someone asks to play me (When I play people they always ask me to switch to Zss they don't wanna see bowser or Ike >: ( ). Depends though I used to play Quest quite a bit and now he practically chases me to get me to play him yet I keep dodging by turning on the xbox first.

However I hear you but then again everyone's schedules are different and what not.
 

BioDG

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Yeah I think Quest has been trying to work on the matchup for some time now.

No need to be nervous though. Just play to learn. Even when you lose, you learn.

I have a skype (bio.dg). Just send a message. I don't mind chatting at all.
 

.EXE

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I just finished playing Quest gave me positive feedback though he was not the same as when I faced him when I was Crazy (Lol still am.). I let him know what was missing went 0-2 in quest's favor was dodging him for days but he was the only one who wants to play the most.

So anyways game 2 I died on SV trying to do that silly silly tech where you plat cancel and fall through! That is an example of me unable to think straight during matches my mind wanders way too much. Other than that I was able to bring it back with from a 3-1 stock lead with some precision side B's still lost but w/e.

His fair handling is good I noticed how he was attacking and hitting my Charged neutral B's always wanting to approach but my style leaves me out of most of Marths approaches.

@Bio my motto was lose and learn thank you for reminding me! Next time gonna get the **** beat outta me!
 

.EXE

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Now the fire Queen so much fire in this world.

There is a relevant question here!

What can Zss do out of shield? What do you guys do out of shield often?

I usually run, spot dodge bad for 2nd choice, and sometimes jab once.
 

infiniteV115

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Okay so since Xonar asked on the last page
I'm planning on going to SKTAR (though I'll probably get my *** kicked cause I don't have any experience in the MK MU)
 

[FBC] Papa Mink

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Now the fire Queen so much fire in this world.

There is a relevant question here!

What can Zss do out of shield? What do you guys do out of shield often?

I usually run, spot dodge bad for 2nd choice, and sometimes jab once.
Her Uair OoS is ****** good in some MUs as well as Usmash seemingly, but i don't use it. If i oos it's usually uair or utilt
 

infiniteV115

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Mink, favour?
Invisible background plz?


I know it looks like there's a transparent background but whenever I try to set my avatar to this, there's a white background and it ruins my life.
 

Dakpo

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@ Dakpo Boosted jump off of the characters head (while holding an armor piece) and then another into magnify throw armor piece down and D Air.

Do you think it could cancel/work? I am trying it on snake on FD as I write also listening to Final battle paper mario TTYD. Maybe Zss turn out like sonic TESH you scum >: ( I don't know maybe you want to try it as well.

I gave up only because I got annoyed at the level 3 comp this can easily be solved by going into training mode but ugh =___=
i have no idea what your talking about :/
 
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