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Bandit

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Wow first time actually getting to the boards and capable of posting. I always show up when it is down lately...

... you guys apparently have not had that problem *looks at number of posts*
 

Ochobobo

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Yeah uair is probably Zelda's best move. Check out DarkMusician's Playing with Fire combo vids, most of his kills were done with that move.
 

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Can the opponent jump out of dtilt if it pops them up at higher percents?

Reading the second jump into an uair would be amazing if they can.
 

The Phazon Assassin

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If a low tier character has a move that takes them out of low tier, immediately disqualifying them from any and all low tier matches, how can it be the best move any low tier has?

That joke needs to die. Besides, PT's Down B is better anyway.
 

☆_Mutha-Foxin GangstaKirby_☆

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dude its because its so broken that they have to ban it from low tiers its still perfectly exceptable in normal singles due to zelda being so terrible to begin with that a boost in stats is perfectly allowable

and nah dude pts down b is useless, it gives everyone free full charged smashes on you unless you are on smashville... then its just broken and gay and **** cuz you cant punish it there, plus if you use it to just be squirtle he gets sick and moves slower and stuff and its really gay for squirtle cuz he is like omfg im the only good poke mon but unlike every other pokemon that are wild and untrained in this game i get tired and pass out easy
 

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Can the opponent jump out of dtilt if it pops them up at higher percents?

Reading the second jump into an uair would be amazing if they can.
I'm sure they can after it gets to 155%+.

But really if you just Dtilt pop > Utilt at 120-130, Any none heavy will die. Light weights like Jiggz will die at like 90-100. Granted if the Utilt is fresh.
 

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i am now awaiting KayLo!'s birthday present to me, which will be ariving at approximately 4:40 pm
wut o.o???

Can the opponent jump out of dtilt if it pops them up at higher percents?

Reading the second jump into an uair would be amazing if they can.
Yeah, they can, but dtilt popup combos into utilt/usmash in the early 100's. (Exact percentage depends on the character.) There's more info on that in the GFF research thread.

Utilt/usmash are usually enough to kill provided they're fresh (unless the opponent's really heavy), but if for some reason they don't, you can try reading a DJ into uair. The only problem is that uair is REALLY slow on startup (frame 14), so if they have a fast dair, they can DJ dair and possibly hit you depending on their range.

Some characters can also airdodge back to the ground, and if you don't read it correctly, you'll get punished for an attempted uair/utilt. (Usmash is pretty good for beating airdodge landings, but at higher percentages, they can DI away far enough that you kinda have to predict where they'll land.)

As far as uair kills: one thing I've been playing around with that seems to work pretty often -- the first time -- stems from Pierce's idea of fthrow off the ledge > predict DJ > uair. A lot of people jump when Zelda throws them off the stage, thinking it's an easy way to avoid anything she can come after them with, so if you stay back a little and uair their DJ, it can get some pretty early kills. It's kind of a one trick pony move, but hey..... easy early KO is worth it.
 

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Another important tip, if you haven't noticed it yet: Zelda boards are full of trolls, and GKirby is the most obvious one. I feel bad for low tier boards..... they get plagued by them.
 

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Another important tip, if you haven't noticed it yet: Zelda boards are full of trolls, and GKirby is the most obvious one. I feel bad for low tier boards..... they get plagued by them.
another important tip is that lowtiers arent viable and you should pick a high or top tier for a main.


but more importantly if you main zelda the best tip ever aside from that one is these three words "press down b"


EDIT: bandit i had to cancel it until a later date due to uncontrollable outside factors
Hmm...we do acquire alot of trolls here on the boards.

My only question for GKirbz is if you know all this, why troll the Zelda boards? None of us Zelda mains are going to give up Zelda just because of what the tier list says. Hell look at all the tourney Zelda's, what little we have left, and you tell me whether or not we don't use Zelda to help get high placings.

I'm not trying to put you on the spot but your telling us stuff that we already know. :)

Just saying.
 

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GKirb at least plays a different character. Mars however trolls his own boards

*facepalm*

(yeah, I did it; KayLo! is not the owner of that)
 

KayLo!

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@GreyFox: Most low tier boards do. It's the defeatist (and usually realistic, as mean as that sounds) attitude, imo...... nobody cares since the characters are bad, so nothing productive gets done. Perfect breeding ground for trolls.

The Jiggs board trolls itself, and the Zelda board attracts good players' troll friends (i.e.: MrEh, GKirby).
 

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@KayLo!

That hurt, didn't it? XD

@Kat

He canceled his big national tournament today. Other than the $1000 he was throwing into the pot, no one would want to go to a tournament where the TO is constantly banned and trolling.

People got kicked out of the workshop backroom because of their trolling & spamming ways.
 

KayLo!

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It did hurt. :urg:

But the joy of not having to waste time skimming over crap outweighs the pain by a tiny tiny bit. <3
 

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Well that was a quick re-ban.
Quite impressive honestly.

Here I thought only EE (from MD/VA) could do that. He and a few mods were having a war with his many alt accounts and they all kept getting super banned within a few posts. "Off The Chain" is his original account that started it (see Bandit's friends).
 

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Agreed with DM.

Only other person to get banned that quick was Mr. Owl. >_>
 

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I'm sure they can after it gets to 155%+.

But really if you just Dtilt pop > Utilt at 120-130, Any none heavy will die. Light weights like Jiggz will die at like 90-100. Granted if the Utilt is fresh.
I honestly don't know how else you'd be able to land utilt since it's so slow, lol. Only other way I can think of is punishing a spot/airdodge.

Another important tip, if you haven't noticed it yet: Zelda boards are full of trolls, and GKirby is the most obvious one. I feel bad for low tier boards..... they get plagued by them.
Don't worry, KayLo! He's one of the leaders of the "X > Espy Drama" campaign. I got a lot of ****talk and pointless flames for that problem a few months ago. It's probably one of the reasons the Sonic boards pretty much died.

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Thanks for the info though.

Isn't usmash a key punisher though? Dtilt to usmash wouldn't kill as early as I'd think it would because I personally overuse it for punishing and 0% setups.

Anyways, I kinda hope to play some WiFi and more Offline matches with Zelda soon. I feel like my Zeldas getting pretty solid.

Greyfox can tell you that much at least.
 

Gyoumadkirby

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prolly cuz zelda is terrible and you guys need the negative reinforcement to keep you mad nuff to main such a bad character?

bandit, mars is mzng and black and cooler than you k?

chibos jus mad cuz hylian is gay and closes gkirbys amazing doubles technique threads for whatever gay reason.

espy is jus mad cuz he is a terrible sonic compared to X.


also if he is a bad troll then why you getting butthurt so hard at the internet? in a social thread of all the places Tsk tsk tsk.
 
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