Zero Suit Samus Questions & Answers

[noradseven]

Do you play SFIV? Which console? I'm still waiting on Snakeee because I really want to play him haha.

360 this semester but most of the tournies run PS3 so Ill be picking up a PS3 stick this summer, or maybe just fixing up my old one and getting a converter I am not sure, it would be about $40 either way.

Also 90% chance Snakeee mains a chick, probably C. Viper with either Sakura or Cammy as an alt and Rose as #3. Assuming he plays SFIV of course.

 

[canthandletheSpeculosity]

Zangief is the best.

 

[Snakeee]

360 this semester but most of the tournies run PS3 so Ill be picking up a PS3 stick this summer, or maybe just fixing up my old one and getting a converter I am not sure, it would be about $40 either way.

Also 90% chance Snakeee mains a chick, probably C. Viper with either Sakura or Cammy as an alt and Rose as #3. Assuming he plays SFIV of course.

No, the women in that game are far too manly for me to use

 

[Yankee]

Chun li and akuma are win.

 

[Cia]

^ i play cammy and ONLY cammy.

snakeee - you MUST main cammy.

she's 'apparently' a terrible character, but i get an obscene amount of wins anyway



also, now that i think about it, there should be a ZSS texture hack of Ivy. (from soul calibur)

 

[Snakeee]

I actually use Ken but I don't play the game at all really....I don't think I even unlocked anyone yet lol

yes I don't mean "everyone" I mean "anyone"

 

[DeliciousCake]

Cammy is D tier apparently. **** that, CAMMY FOR LIFE!

 

[jibbyjaont]

Cammy is D tier apparently. **** that, CAMMY FOR LIFE!

Protest! Cammy for top tier! Screw Sagat!

 

[FadedImage]

Cammy is a terrible character design, put some god**** pants on you military unitard wearing freak.

talk about fan service.. ):

 

[Red Arremer]

Cammy is just like Ivy in the Soul Calibur series. Anyone else noticed how Ivy's chest grew with every game?

 

[Hence]

I'm beginning extensive research into ZSS' moveset again today.

The ZSS boards should have a Xat or IRC Chat, as our forums are kind of dead.
Does anyone agree?

Possible Response:
"But, but, but...! Wouldn't having an IRC Chat further hinder posting on our forum?"
STFU.

Practically every character specific board I've belonged to has had an IRC Chat except ZSS. ):
Zelda/Shiek and Jigglypuff, with the Jigglypuff Xat being extra awesome.

Sooo...?

 

[DeliciousCake]

I already have #ZSS registered on irc.globalgamers.net, nobody uses it though.

Edit: I'm sitting here waiting for people to join.

 

[Hence]

I already have #ZSS registered on irc.globalgamers.net, nobody uses it though.

Edit: I'm sitting here waiting for people to join.

Joining.

Hopefully others will as well.

 

[DeliciousCake]

Here is how I currently see the IRC channel building up mentally:

Owner: DeliciousCake
Op: Snakeee, Dazwa
Half-op: ph00tbag, FadedImage, Adapt

So, hopefully those people will join us at some point.

 

[sasook]

I'd love to be part of some ZSS chat, just tell me what to do/where to go.

 

[ph00tbag]

I'd love to be part of some ZSS chat, just tell me what to do/where to go.

If you have mIRC, just type /server -m irc.globalgamers.net, and hit return, then /join #ZSS. It might help if you register your nick with globalgamers.

You can use other clients for this, though. I'm using Pidgin, for example.

 

[Kewkky]

Anyone notice how, if you're knocked upwards in any stage and end up out of the camera (hoop), you can dair and reach the floor a buttload of times faster than normal, and land with 0 (ZERO) lag?

I use this in any stage I get knocked up from. Instead of returning downwards by airdodging, mindgaming, or aiming for the ledges, I just dair back to the stage and land with 0 lag, making it possible for me to do anything at all once I land, including utilts, spotdodges, whatever I desire... So I use it, drag my opponent down with me since he'll be following me trying to uair me, ten utilt to get THEM on top of ME.

I dunno, I found myself doing this a lot in a tourney I went to yesterday (ended up 3rd with Kirby and ZSS, in order of usage), and it helped me out a lot more than I thought it would. Just wondering if anyone else has considered doing this, thought of finding a similar use for dair, or found any downsides with doing this. Thanks!

EDIT: Whoops, forgot to point out... An easy stage to do this in is in FD, since there are no platforms to get in between the distance needed to land without lag after a dair... But I've done it in many different stages, including Battlefield. And thanks Cake, I just used the "magnified finish" term from smash64.

 

[DeliciousCake]

Just for the record, the technical term for it the "magnifying glass" is "hoop." The damage you take while off the stage is referred to as "hoop damage."

 

[FadedImage]

yeah we knew about auto canceling d-air, thanks for the input though.

 

[Mr.Ious]

Not sure it's worth a new thread, but the Toon Link boards have found it's possible to catch + instantly throw their bombs by doing an air-dodge catch followed direction+A (or just C-stick) a few frames later. This gives them the ability to short hop double bomb (http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=231339) and ZSS can do the same with the suit pieces.

 

[ph00tbag]

Anyone notice how, if you're knocked upwards in any stage and end up out of the camera (hoop), you can dair and reach the floor a buttload of times faster than normal, and land with 0 (ZERO) lag?

More like 4 frames of lag, as opposed to 14.

There may be one or two frames where you can autocancel dair, but they're really hard to get at. You'll more likely get a no-hitbox dair.

 

[Kaitou Ace]

What's the best way to approach Lucas? His nair is really fast and leaves me with no room to retaliate ;_; Then I get fair'd and I can't space with Side+B because PK Fire is faster Halp

 

[kuenzel]

Not sure it's worth a new thread, but the Toon Link boards have found it's possible to catch + instantly throw their bombs by doing an air-dodge catch followed direction+A (or just C-stick) a few frames later. This gives them the ability to short hop double bomb (http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=231339) and ZSS can do the same with the suit pieces.

It looks cool. Do you think there would be enough hitstun to hit a person with two pieces in a row?

 

[canthandletheSpeculosity]

Not sure it's worth a new thread, but the Toon Link boards have found it's possible to catch + instantly throw their bombs by doing an air-dodge catch followed direction+A (or just C-stick) a few frames later. This gives them the ability to short hop double bomb (http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=231339) and ZSS can do the same with the suit pieces.

ADHD was telling me about this, thanks for the link.

 

[Snakeee]

disregard this shenanigans

 

[Supermodel From Paris]

Tap Jumping.

Do you keep it on or off? Why or why not?

I'm used to playing with it off, and really fail at utilt sometimes when it's on. But I would like the extended second jump and easier rising uairs. Thoughts?

 

[KRiMz0N]

on so i can double jump boost my up b better

 

[sasook]

Off so that if I want to upb for whatever reason (maybe chasing an opponent upwards), I don't waste my jump.

As for your question about boost jumping and rising uairs, I can still do that with it off. Just use the A button for the uairs instead of the C-stick, so you can slide your thumb from X/Y to A pretty easily.

For the boost jump....hmm.......I guess I just have fast fingers.

 

[Snakeee]

For some reason I have a lot of fun boost jumping. I feel like I can do it in real life o_O

 

[sasook]

^Lol

10lols

 

[Hence]

For some reason I have a lot of fun boost jumping. I feel like I can do it in real life o_O

Someone's played too much brawl.

Edit: Now everytime I jump I think of Samus' boost jump, thanks Snakeee. -.-;

 

[canthandletheSpeculosity]

*Imagines Snakeee trying to do up b boost jump in real life*

...lol.

 

[Nefarious B]

Question: Who are the characters that we can force into an air release?

I know MK and Wario, who else though?

 

[Hence]

Question: Who are the characters that we can force into an air release?

I know MK and Wario, who else though?

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=197763

 

[Nefarious B]

I know that list has aerials, but has anyone tested if we can tipper side b the air release characters? I just have this image of chaingrabbing MK across the stage pummeling to finishing with a (now fresh) side b at the end of the stage for a low % kill.

I'll do some testing later.

 

[Hence]

I know that list has aerials, but has anyone tested if we can tipper side b the air release characters? I just have this image of chaingrabbing MK across the stage pummeling to finishing with a (now fresh) side b at the end of the stage for a low % kill.

I'll do some testing later.

No.

The Startup time on Plasma Whip is rediculous compared to the timeframe you have to imput an aerial.

 

[Nefarious B]

But you also have to move to do an aerial, side b is just short hop then input.

I have a feeling it's too long as well, but it doesn't take long to check, I'm just finishing some HW atm.

 

[Mr.Ious]

It looks cool. Do you think there would be enough hitstun to hit a person with two pieces in a row?

In theory (read: in my head), you should be able to short hop double toss -> fast fall + airdodge pickup third piece -> glide toss
...but the long set up time for the double toss means it will probably only work on opponents who don't like moving much...

Might be more practical to throw out one piece at the start, then set up the double toss. I'll try messing around with this in some matches later and see if there's anything decent we can make of it.

 

[Supermodel From Paris]

I know that list has aerials, but has anyone tested if we can tipper side b the air release characters? I just have this image of chaingrabbing MK across the stage pummeling to finishing with a (now fresh) side b at the end of the stage for a low % kill.

I'll do some testing later.

You can probably do it to Squirtle.

 

[Rush4216]

does she have a spike and if so, the Dair, which i find to be a suicide button. where do i use it?