Half-Split Soul
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No Lon Lon milk? Ludicrous!
*Waiting for OP to be updated*
*Waiting for OP to be updated*
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Zelda's Stage Discussion #10 -- Battlefield!
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hahaha! O I was caught out on this one aye =D
Alright the next stage is good ol' lylat. I love the animated backdrop and slants <3 I hate recovering on this stage though.
Ochobobo
Smash Lord
Also the tilting can make attempting Teleport Canceling much more difficult than usual, if not impossible altogether.
Half-Split Soul
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This stage has nice slant parts and low platforms that give Zelda lots of chances for D-tilt locks and aerial/U-smash poking. It also isn't quite small enough to make her suffer constant pressuring (unless she's fighting MK) and not big enough to make it impossible to deal with campers. The platforms also may help her approach some foes. It's basically almost as good stage as Luigi's mansion.
...Until she gets off-stage, that is. When that happens pretty much anybody can edgeguard her with little effort. And even if they can't the stage's weird ledges and tilting do the job for them.
It's also good to remember that most of the characters can also use the layout for their advantage just like Zelda, so she doesn't exactly dominate on-stage either. (I think that's the nicest way to say it)
...Until she gets off-stage, that is. When that happens pretty much anybody can edgeguard her with little effort. And even if they can't the stage's weird ledges and tilting do the job for them.
It's also good to remember that most of the characters can also use the layout for their advantage just like Zelda, so she doesn't exactly dominate on-stage either. (I think that's the nicest way to say it)
AlMoStLeGeNdArY
Smash Hero
It can be a pain to recover on this stage. Kind of like the hell transformation on Seige. Beware of the shifting. It's kind of like a smaller BF which is good for Zelda since your opponent doesn't have much room to run. You can camp platforms against jectile spammers. The platform can be troublesome for larger characters. Upsmash or nair thru platforms which everyone you feel would be better. Overall not a bad stage but the tilt can wreck your recovery.
It would be a perfect Zelda stage if it didn't screw over her recovery. Lots of platforms is a good thing for Zelda and the relatively low blastzones makes for some early kills..........although you'll more than likely be dying early as well. Overall it's not a terrible stage but it's not a particularly good stage for Zelda either.
I always found the ceiling to be sort of high, to be honest.
Lylat Cruise is a pretty cool stage. Though, I can’t say it’s a great stage for Zelda.
The platforms are generally best for nairs and sometimes surprise short hop uairs. U-smash doesn’t always hit though. It really depends on how far the ship has tilted.
Recovering on Lylat sucks. Never recover vertically if you can help it, because you will likely hit the lip of the stage and die.
Also, the ceiling is pretty high IIRC, so U-smash kills will be harder to do. So D-smash might be a better alternative.
The platforms are generally best for nairs and sometimes surprise short hop uairs. U-smash doesn’t always hit though. It really depends on how far the ship has tilted.
Recovering on Lylat sucks. Never recover vertically if you can help it, because you will likely hit the lip of the stage and die.
Also, the ceiling is pretty high IIRC, so U-smash kills will be harder to do. So D-smash might be a better alternative.
Half-Split Soul
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I support the idea of doing Halberd next for the same reasons zeldspazz gave.
Sonic The Hedgedawg
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*raises hand*
I've done awesome here before...... but it's never a stage I jump to unless my oponent or his character sucks there.
I've done awesome here before...... but it's never a stage I jump to unless my oponent or his character sucks there.
JigglyZelda003
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i don't really jump here as Zelda cause i've only done average or bad here, thsi is one of my JP stages
Half-Split Soul
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This is what happens when I don't get quoted in the summary for a stage: I forget we've ever discussed it. (lol jk)We've done halberd though
I also do terribly in Lylat.
I hate Lylat.
Let's say it's a horrible stage and move on.
Let's say it's a horrible stage and move on.
Sonic The Hedgedawg
Smash Hero
get used to that ledge screwing you.
Alright! We've moved stages and it's Battlefield now. This could be Zelda's best neutral and stage, so I don't want any generic info, I'm after little specific tricks you can use to surprise the opponent. I know I like to do walkoff bairs on the platforms if ever the situation arises. You can also dtilt lock and dsmash tall characters wen you're stood on one of the side platforms... so yeah, I'm sure there's plenty to talk about for this stage
I think we should explore stuff like DASC as well.
I think we should explore stuff like DASC as well.
zeldspazz
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You can ledgewarp the side from just a little farther than the center of the stage (theres a little line exactly in the middle that help you space it right)
Reverse Naryu's Love while someones hanging on the edge->LK can be done, it was in the Zelda guide and Ive done it once or twice.
Ill keep thinking, those were just 2 off the top of my head >_>
Reverse Naryu's Love while someones hanging on the edge->LK can be done, it was in the Zelda guide and Ive done it once or twice.
Ill keep thinking, those were just 2 off the top of my head >_>
I LOVE this stage! I reckon it is one of her best stages.
First, the platforms open all sorts of opportunities.
The two lower platforms, you can do these sorts of things:
- You can nair through the platforms for damage racking.
- U-smash through the platforms for kills (Although, sometimes you will miss, so you should learn where and when it’ll kill).
- Utilt goes through the platform too.
- You can get Fair Sparky Kicks pretty easily if they are grounded on the platform.
The top platform isn’t as useful:
- Surprise uair kills are awesome. They will kill REALLY early if they are grounded on the top platform.
On the grounded part of the stage:
- Jabs setup grabs, which can lead to those Dthrow spikes on Lucario, Falco, Dedede and Ganon. (Yes, it is rare. But the possibility exists xD)
Recovering:
- Is relatively easy because there is hardly a lip on the stage. You can recover vertically quite well here without dying.
I’ll post more when I remember/think of other stuff.
It’s basically a really good balanced stage for Zelda with ideal blastzones. It’s not too big, yet not too small.
I would recommend this as the neutral stage you should always go on.
First, the platforms open all sorts of opportunities.
The two lower platforms, you can do these sorts of things:
- You can nair through the platforms for damage racking.
- U-smash through the platforms for kills (Although, sometimes you will miss, so you should learn where and when it’ll kill).
- Utilt goes through the platform too.
- You can get Fair Sparky Kicks pretty easily if they are grounded on the platform.
The top platform isn’t as useful:
- Surprise uair kills are awesome. They will kill REALLY early if they are grounded on the top platform.
On the grounded part of the stage:
- Jabs setup grabs, which can lead to those Dthrow spikes on Lucario, Falco, Dedede and Ganon. (Yes, it is rare. But the possibility exists xD)
Recovering:
- Is relatively easy because there is hardly a lip on the stage. You can recover vertically quite well here without dying.
I’ll post more when I remember/think of other stuff.
It’s basically a really good balanced stage for Zelda with ideal blastzones. It’s not too big, yet not too small.
I would recommend this as the neutral stage you should always go on.
Sonic The Hedgedawg
Smash Hero
platforms are set up really well for aerials and poking... and giving you more places to land with farore's... not to mention the ledge is kind anyway.
Finman702
Smash Journeyman
When they are on the edge reverse Nayru's Love to stage spike, or into a fair/bair. That's always nice.