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By the way it isn't my first tournament going full Zelda.It might be better if we prayed for your soul.![]()
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By the way it isn't my first tournament going full Zelda.It might be better if we prayed for your soul.![]()
Kirby is similar to Rosalina in that on paper he beats Kirby, yet... Kirby doesn't struggle. Being one of the smallest characters in the game plus having the shortest crouches makes avoiding slingshots easy. Lloid Rocket doesn't really work that well as Kirby has multiple jumps, and Pushy Lloid isn't that threatening because of how slow it moves. Kirby is lucky to have his Copy Ability, so he can pocket everything Villager throws out, which makes it a lot riskier to projectile. Once Kirby gets in, Villager can't get him out easily, but f3 N-Air is a pretty nice combo breaker. Villager can't really edgeguard Kirby, while Kirby can edgeguard Villager due to Upper Cutter and Meteor Stone. ADHD dumb camp doesn't work, either, because Meteor Stone and Giant Hammer. Counter Sapling doesn't do much either because Kirby's advantage state usually involves being aerial, but it does ruin some jab approaches, pivot shenanigans, and dash grab stuff. Also, Kirby's advantage state is improved if he any projectile excluding Lloid or probably Tree pocketed, as he can use them all in combos.How do you think the Kirby/Villager MU plays out? I kind of hate it as Villager because I can't get my slingshots to connect and Kirby has a good grab game which is bad for Villager. /serious
"Oh yeah aerial assault is delish amazing recovery to an archetype representative whose archetype rarely have good recoveries" Is what i would say until i get the feeling @First Swordfighter I ever played belonged to @Antonykun . He did some weird side-b which brought him to the ledge from the blastzone as I was going offstage to Thunder him. I was like, what the heck, what is that move, and immediately and prematurely concluded that Swordfighter was better than dead last on the tier list.
Would have found out more, but apparently he was downloading a water buffalo because the lag overwhelmed us thereafter.
May Hylia have mercy on your soul.By the way it isn't my first tournament going full Zelda.![]()
Hit and run. Hit. And. Run. Be like a guerrilla frog.H-huh? Greninja can be mobile on wifi? Oh, do tell please.
Kirbyception? I'm impressed Kirby doesn't struggle against Kirby.Kirby is similar to Rosalina in that on paper he beats Kirby, yet... Kirby doesn't struggle.
Can't play right now but I would love to at some point.foyt may.
So, I totally know what you meant, but it didn't keep me from thinking of Greninja's textures on DK's model.Be like a guerrilla frog.
You got it.@Shaya I'm legit curious about this "FE Tier", (Could you mean ALL FE chars, do you mean as the next 'hyrule tier'?) mind elaborating?
Is this a stab atSwordfighter has Aerials that auto cancel?
Instant non-bottom tier.
Swordfighter's AC moves are U-air and N-air. U-air is only useful in advantage and N-air reminds me I'm Tsundere for Swordfighter.Swordfighter has Aerials that auto cancel?
Instant non-bottom tier.
Fix your internet son!"Oh yeah aerial assault is delish amazing recovery to an archetype representative whose archetype rarely have good recoveries" Is what i would say until i get the feeling @Unknownkid will stare at me with the "You like Krabby Patties don't you Squidward?" face
Edit: @Aunt Jemima he's zee but goes by zeezee and great job on beating him.
I thought BAir low jump ACed. But I haven't used SF in ages.Swordfighter's AC moves are U-air and N-air. U-air is only useful in advantage and N-air reminds me I'm Tsundere for Swordfighter.
In my defense both my roommate was working while we shared the same router and me and @Fix your internet son!
Gettin hyped, too bad like 95% of us here isn't giving it attentionProject M 3.6 trailer.
Smash 64 stages hype gorls.
yesCan someone tell me how to embed a gfy?
Do I just use the media button?
Is having 20 frames before you Autocancel means that it is worthwhile?I thought BAir low jump ACed. But I haven't used SF in ages.
They were probably 1-up on us in terms of seeing the potential Emblem Tier.I'm failing to see why Japan considers Robin trash...he/she's not the best character, but in no way bottom tier
You can AutoCancel or the better term is Frame Cancel F-Air after the second hit. Timmy did a Fair-> Upsmash on an Jigglypuff.Swordfighter's AC moves are U-air and N-air. U-air is only useful in advantage and N-air reminds me I'm Tsundere for Swordfighter.
You beat me to the punch on the "gorilla frog" lol ah wellSo, I totally know what you meant, but it didn't keep me from thinking of Greninja's textures on DK's model.
Someone should get on that, Longchu needs a rival.
You'll have to elaborate on this. I understand that his moves are generally on the "average to slow startup but quick recovery" side but the lag from low jumping his aerials adds up quick in my eyes. It weakens his ability to pressure the opponent which, if I can't kill well, I at least want to be able to stress them out.G&W's kit doesn't really have much lag in the first place. You beat the guy by punishing his movements, not his attacks.
I never said anything about fast falling the move. When people say a move autocancels, I assume they mean that they low jump, input the aerial, then fall normally. Even Villager only has BAir and NAir as shff aerials.Is having 20 frames before you Autocancel means that it is worthwhile?
If so then yeah B-air is a great move overall.
I feel the same way sometimes. Where I live there isn't even any interest in Smash as a game, let alone competitively, so the only decent matches I get are online (and properly good matches are hard to come by on For Glory).It does make me wonder sometimes if it's even worth it trying to play Sm4sh competitively when you don't have an active scene nearby, I'm pretty much stuck to WiFi as it is.
It does make me wonder sometimes if it's even worth it trying to play Sm4sh competitively when you don't have an active scene nearby, I'm pretty much stuck to WiFi as it is.
While WiFi isn't good for estimation, it's great for building up your skills (except For Glory; challenge good players instead, or play on a ladder). Notable players like Anti, Ally, and Salem have their roots in WiFi. While you won't get the full high-level-player experience on WiFi, you can definitely become a high-level player through WiFi alone. It just takes dedication and keen observation.I feel the same way sometimes. Where I live there isn't even any interest in Smash as a game, let alone competitively, so the only decent matches I get are online (and properly good matches are hard to come by on For Glory).
Lucario's? Triple D's? Doesn't Triple D just flop on the floor? Also, Pikachu just skids on the floor with Bair, right?Just about every BAir can autocancel lol
Both of those autocancel from a short hop.Lucario's? Triple D's?
well most lol.Lucario's? Triple D's? Doesn't Triple D just flop on the floor? Also, Pikachu just skids on the floor with Bair, right?
Also, this remix of N's Castle is awesome!
It won't be the same so it's likely that you have a chance to beat that said person online thanks to the absence of lagThe problem I have is losing on FG. I want to go to tournaments, but if I can't even beat someone online, then how the heck am I supposed to be able to compete at a real tourney?![]()
THIS. I support this idea 100%.You know how Goku wears weighted training clothes, and then when he takes them off he feels as light as a feather?
That's how you feel when you finally play a real match after WiFi training sessions. In some ways it is even better training than in-person training.
I played a lot of online in Brawl, not gonna lie. Smash 4 is a godsend in comparison.If Wi-Fi is really trash then how the **** were people able to play friend matches online in Brawl.