Guide Zelda Social: But also the FE Heroes Internet Cafe

SpiralGalaxies · Mar 29, 2015

HeroMystic said:
Luigi is actually terrible at getting in without fireballs. He has some of the worst baiting mechanisms in the game, due to his abyssmal airspeed and acceleration/deceleration, and even further his ground game means very little. Fireballs is actually the only thing that gives his neutral game some worth, because they come out so fast and he can act out of it so quickly that the damage and hitstun behind it is worth it. However, Luma exists so they're blocked. He would actually appreciate Mario's fireballs even if they have a longer recovery.

What makes Luigi so good is his quick grab and throw game because he can just pile on damage in immense bursts, and when he gets going, he gets going. However, Rosalina is light and floaty, meaning she can DI out of his strings, and Luma exists so she can reliably combo break him or even break the grab in general. Even further, Luigi's B-throw does not launch Luma at all. It just makes her flinch. So while Luma is in play, grabbing Rosalina takes an obscene amount of effort. And when you can't grab, Luigi's weaknesses as a character becomes really, really apparent.

Luigi's combo breakers, N-air and Cyclone, also does absolutely nothing vs Rosalina's U-air, so he gets juggled for free.

Luigi is essentially a Ganondorf in this MU and I'd even go as far as to say Ganondorf has a better MU against Rosie than he does.

Yikes. I never though the matchup would be so bad.

Thank you for responding though! <3

NairWizard · Mar 29, 2015

Vermanubis said:
If by regular, you mean assign an overseer upon annexation, yes!

Basically, my want is that, much like Crimea, even though you're all technically the Zelda boards, you'll identify as Ganons so we can just invade.

Давайте, товарищи!

Are you invading, or being invaded?

I summon @A2ZOMG @Thinkaman @

Shaya @

san. (why is your name not just 3 letters, san?) @DanGR @Amazing Ampharos and @Nobie

I don't know if you guys already post here, or whether you'll care, but, you know what, screw making sense. Welcome to the hornet's nest.

Lorde · Mar 29, 2015

SpiralGalaxies said:
The correct choice is the bow. Bow for Pros.

Bow is one I've been using, but I went through the other ones and they all look good. Bow also makes Jiggly really pale, which is a good look for her.

Lavani said:
Do what I do with Rosalina and just use all of them.

I would, but I have this weird thing where I have to have a "favorite" palette that I use most of the time. I still use other palettes, but I like to have one that I always go back to.

Speaking of Rosalina palettes, I hated the green one and thought it was her worst palette until I got the Wii U version. It's definitely not her best palette, but I really like it. I almost settled on pink lol.

The Jiggly palettes I'm deciding between now (in order of likelihood that I'd use it):

Soul. · Mar 29, 2015

SolidSense said:
Are you invading, or being invaded?

I summon @ san. (why is your name not just 3 letters, san?)

The same can be said to my username.

Tilk · Mar 29, 2015

NAsh88 said:
Bow is one I've been using, but I went through the other ones and they all look good. Bow also makes Jiggly really pale, which is a good look for her.

I would, but I have this weird thing where I have to have a "favorite" palette that I use most of the time. I still use other palettes, but I like to have one that I always go back to.

Speaking of Rosalina palettes, I hated the green one and thought it was her worst palette until I got the Wii U version. It's definitely not her best palette, but I really like it. I almost settled on pink lol.

The Jiggly palettes I'm deciding between now (in order of likelihood that I'd use it):

Serena Jiggly.

Just sayin'.

WolfieXVII ❂ · Mar 29, 2015

I just had the greatest idea for a raid
Should I mention it here?

Rizen · Mar 29, 2015

I don't play wifi except for friendlies because my dumb internet DCs when I get a phone call (which happens a lot :/)

CatRaccoonBL · Mar 29, 2015

NAsh88 said:
>When you want to pick up Jigglypuff as a possible co-main but you can't choose a favorite palette because they're all adorable

Yeeeeees. I love Hibicus, Nurse, and Serena all equally. But yeah:

Lavani said:
Do what I do with Rosalina and just use all of them.

Like, Lavani, I just alternate a lot.

san. · Mar 29, 2015

There weren't enough characters or it was taken over by a bot or something. "San" is best.

What is this about?

HeroMystic · Mar 29, 2015

Watching Aftershock makes me feel bad for Dabuz. He truly looks stumped against Zero's Diddy.

Lorde · Mar 29, 2015

RaccoonBL said:
Yeeeeees. I love Hibicus, Nurse, and Serena all equally. But yeah:

Like, Lavani, I just alternate a lot.

Phoebe's hibiscus would be the best palette, but it turns her an ugly dark pink/reddish color and that ruins it for me. The others are all good, though. Nurse Joy is the one I'll probably end up using but idk.

With Rosalina palettes, I use green like 80% of the time, but I also like to use pink, gold, and purple. I don't like the others too much.

Blossom ✿ · Mar 29, 2015

>Is on FG
>Finishes a tense match with a decent Yoshi player
>Internet drops the ball and gives me a communication error
Welp, looks my internet isn't having any of that tonight! Ugh...

It's always with the decent/good players that this happens...
Either I get DC'd, they get DC'd, or a lag fest occurs.

Lavani · Mar 29, 2015

san. said:
There weren't enough characters or it was taken over by a bot or something. "San" is best.

What is this about?

We're going to convert you to Zelda and make you her #1 rep.

Or something.

HeroMystic said:
Watching Aftershock makes me feel bad for Dabuz. He truly looks stumped against Zero's Diddy.

He seems pretty stumped at the matchup in general. He was struggling even with Olimar at Shockwave the other day...and if I remember right actually did better with Rosalina?

I hope he figures things out, I'd rather see him beat the monkey menace ;_;

Tilk · Mar 29, 2015

Anyone up for a match or two on 3DS?

Space Stranger · Mar 29, 2015

HeroMystic said:
It is always a horrendously bad choice to pick Luigi vs Rosalina.

For you.

I like challenging those match ups with

and

.

Soul. · Mar 29, 2015

Smogon is suspect testing Giratina-O?
What the **** were they thinkin---

COLINBG · Mar 29, 2015

Tilk said:
Anyone up for a match or two on 3DS?

I'm down for it

Blossom ✿ · Mar 29, 2015

Soul. said:
Smogon is suspect testing Giratina-O?
What the **** were they thinkin---

Wait wat why?
Where's the logic in that? Why would Smogon do that of all things?

Edit: Also, yay! First post on the page!
I would do a Xenoblade reference, but eh, too bored to do so.

CatRaccoonBL · Mar 29, 2015

Soul. said:
Smogon is suspect testing Giratina-O?
What the **** were they thinkin---

You know, I noticed recently you've been cutting your sentences off. At least, thats what it looks like. Can I ask why?

Soul. · Mar 29, 2015

CWBanjo said:
Wait wat why?
Where's the logic in that? Why would Smogon do that of all things?

After removing from the metagame numerous offensive powerhouses, we realized that the time had come to invert the course. Presently, the OU metagame is stale and the abundance of defensively oriented teams led us to believe that a mixed attacker with great defensive and offensive typing will probably give back some vivacity to the tier. Right at the beginning of the X/Y era, many people suggested that Giratina-Origin shouldn't have been included in the initial banlist. Its base statistics are on par with those of several other Pokémon who characterize the current OU metagame and the fact that it's forced to run Griseous Orb makes Giratina-O a relatively predictable threat. Likewise, according to top players of the caliber of @McMeghan, Giratina-O's 150/100/100 defenses will help balanced teams deal with threats such as Charizard-Y, Landorus-I and Serperior.

RaccoonBL said:
You know, I noticed recently you've been cutting your sentences off. At least, thats what it looks like. Can I ask why?

just trying to be hilarious. idk tbh

Tilk · Mar 29, 2015

COLINBG said:
I'm down for it

Alright. Let's go. I'll host.

HeroMystic · Mar 29, 2015

Lavani said:
He seems pretty stumped at the matchup in general. He was struggling even with Olimar at Shockwave the other day...and if I remember right actually did better with Rosalina?

I hope he figures things out, I'd rather see him beat the monkey menace ;_;

Against Denti I believe he went Olimar but got figured out and had to switch to Rosalina after that. Against Zero he went all Rosalina IIRC.

Well he figured out Denti just now, and he by far has the most experience against Zero's Diddy, so he has the best shot.

evmaxy54 · Mar 29, 2015

S.F.L.R_9 said:
lmao when people thought Zelda was buffed

Yea... Those people sure were silly...

~~FML~~

WolfieXVII ❂ · Mar 29, 2015

evmaxy54 said:
Yea... Those people sure were silly...

~~FML~~

Don't worry there's always ~~1.0.6~~ Smash 5

Shaya · Mar 29, 2015

I avoid this place because I personally believe Zelda is at least top 50 in this game and cannot stand the self-defeatist nature of their mains.

S.F.L.R_9 · Mar 29, 2015

HunterNinjaReaperPirate said:
Don't worry there's always ~~1.0.6~~ Smash 5

we've been disappointed with Zelda three games in a row, it wouldn't surprise me if she sucks in the next patch/game as well

WolfieXVII ❂ · Mar 29, 2015

Shaya said:
I avoid this place because I personally believe Zelda is at least top 50 in this game and cannot stand the self-defeatist nature of their mains.

That's still pretty high
Lucas, Ice Climbers, K Rool, Ridley, Bandana Dee and Impa are waaay better than

:^)

Soul. · Mar 29, 2015

Changing the thread title is better than Zelda.

Blossom ✿ · Mar 29, 2015

S.F.L.R_9 said:
we've been disappointed with Zelda three games in a row, it wouldn't surprise me if she sucks in the next patch/game as well

Besides, the only game she's considered viable in is Project M.
An unofficial game is fully capable of having the best Zelda in Smash than any of the official Smash games.
Now that's just sad...
EDIT: Yes, there's also Brawl Minus, but everyone's hilariously broken in that mod, so I don't really think that counts.

Macchiato · Mar 29, 2015

@Spirst @Locke 06 @Reserved omg my crew is gonna battle yew gorls next weekend.

S.F.L.R_9 · Mar 29, 2015

WHEN FARORE'S WIND DOESN'T SWEETSPOT THE LEDGE AND THE TRASHIEST OF FOR GLORY PLAYERS WINS
:salt:

Antonykun · Mar 29, 2015

Shaya said:
I avoid this place because I personally believe Zelda is at least top 50 in this game and cannot stand the self-defeatist nature of their mains.

Then who is 51?
...It's Swordfighter isn't it?

Macchiato · Mar 29, 2015

I think Zelda's top 10 30 but that's just me

Cenizas · Mar 29, 2015

Shaya said:
I avoid this place because I personally believe Zelda is at least top 50 in this game and cannot stand the self-defeatist nature of their mains.

I don't believe I've seen your opinion on Zelda, mind elaborating? There's been talk of some of her positive qualities and how she's the best worst character in the series (worst consolation prize ever), but afaik neither the CCI or the Zelda Social can really come up with anyone she's better than.

Oh, and about the second part, @

Macchiato

Space Stranger · Mar 29, 2015

It's nice to ban Zelda. Sometimes, we have to remove the trash and flood tourneys with Curious George and Space Elsa.

Shrokatii · Mar 29, 2015

i thought zelda was top 5

kenniky · Mar 29, 2015

Antonykun said:
Then who is 51?
...It's Swordfighter isn't it?

imo

is super overrated

evmaxy54 · Mar 29, 2015

Antonykun said:
Then who is 51?
...It's Swordfighter isn't it?

At least a solo Swordfighter has won a tourney

WolfieXVII ❂ · Mar 29, 2015

Shrokatii said:
i thought zelda was top 5

In Sakurai's eyes, Sheik makes Zelda top tier
Even when separate :^)

Lavani · Mar 29, 2015

Antonykun said:
Then who is 51?
...It's Swordfighter isn't it?

Did you forget about Fire Emblem tier already?

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