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[BJN39]

^ I AM curious about Dsmash. If anyone can tell me that Dtilt had longer range in 1.00-1.03, then I can say for sure it was increased, as Dsmash hits like, a millimeter farther than Dtilt in at LEAST, 1.04.

 

[ZombieBran]

I stole my boyfriend's 3DS and copy of Smash just now. Still at 1.0.3.
Will test.

 

[Erotic&Heretic]

Also probably placebo effect, but dash attack seems to have a bit more priority.

 

[ZombieBran]

Dsmash doesn't seem any bigger, sadly. Even in 1.0.3 it sometimes hits where dtilt never would. I tried at the same distance (as best I could, anyway).
If you tested it on Mario, his idle animation might've screwed up things as sometimes I'd get a phantom hit on his hand with dtilt.

 

[Novice_Brave]

Damn you, placebo...
Right about now I would not be above groveling at Sakurai's feet for some dang proper patch notes.

 

[ZombieBran]

That said, I appreciate dsmash's range a bit more now.
It's not as small as it felt on release.

 

[BJN39]

I stole my boyfriend's 3DS and copy of Smash just now. Still at 1.0.3.
Will test.

Hold on! I need you to test something:

Put Mario on a low BF platform, and then try and hit him with a non angled, minimal distance Din's. If it doesn't hit him in 1.0.3, Din's Fire might've actually gotten a hit-box increase!

 

[ZombieBran]

Crap, it hit him when it was right under in 1.0.3. It missed if the center was anywhere else at min charge.
Same with 1.0.4.

By the way, testing this just showed how misleading the effects are.

 

[evmaxy54]

Just downloaded the patch there now, & I can't even do RCPG anymore it's heartbreaking ;_;

In completely unrelated news, I've entered a wee online tourney with mostly people from the UK (yay less lag!) which starts on Saturday & I plan to go 50/50 Zelderp & Pretty Palutena. So yeah

/smashblogboards

 

[Zylach]

Does anyone feel like her lightning kicks are a bit easier to land after the patch or am I just imagining this?

 

[BlueGardevoir]

sorry ..what does it mean RCPG?

 

[JigglyZelda003]

Does anyone feel like her lightning kicks are a bit easier to land after the patch or am I just imagining this?

i don't think so, they feel relatively the same to me. i think we want to believe there is more to this patch for Zelda so much that we are imagining things lol

sorry ..what does it mean RCPG?

Roll Cancel Pivot Grab, but its gone now lol

 

[Erotic&Heretic]

I'm not sure about it, but I think that using the edges of a plateform to stay in place while doing the pivot grab allows Zelda to keep the grab range. It's more limited, but... it may help. Sometimes.

 

[KuroganeHammer]

roll cancel pivot grab isnt gone guys..

 

[Erotic&Heretic]

roll cancel pivot grab isnt gone guys..

It feels definitely harder, then. I haven't managed to stay at the same place while doing the pivot grab, always sliding.

 

[KuroganeHammer]

i can confirm it's no longer 420noscope easy

 

[2004Zilla]

i can confirm it's no longer 420noscope easy

420noscope was hard enough as is...

Must drink more Mountain Dew.

 

[Rion]

i can confirm it's no longer 420noscope easy

It's basically harder to pull off and with less range. Not nearly as rewarding as her old RCPG.

Better start praying for 1.05/WiiU release!

 

[KuroganeHammer]

Better start praying for 1.05/WiiU release!

OK

 

[ZombieBran]

That just reminds me of PM 3.5 Zelda, who I actually like! She's looking super rosy compared to Smash 4 Zelda.

 

[CommanderPepper]

I never used RCPG in this game, I'm glad it's still in the game. I don't care if it's harder to use. I'll try to use RCPG on the Wii U with a GCN controller.

 

[micstar615]

That just reminds me of PM 3.5 Zelda, who I actually like! She's looking super rosy compared to Smash 4 Zelda.

There are Zelda's other than PM Zelda?

 

[Phenomiracle]

Let's all have a serious moment to celebrate that Sakurai didn't touch FW.

 

[2004Zilla]

Let's all have a serious moment to celebrate that Sakurai didn't touch FW.

Sakurai=

 

[Rion]

OK

Dammit Aero, haha~

 

[Zylach]

I had just learned to incorporate her RCPG and now it's a million times more difficult to pull off. It is still possible like others have said but so much more inconsistent. I found myself rolling instead of grabbing more often than not.The timing has to be spot on. That range reduction hurts though. I was having fun outranging Marth's fair with it too

 

[Kataefi]

urgh, that 1% utilt buff has got me SO excited...

>__>

This isn't patch-related but has anyone experienced recovering to the ledge and appearing just slightly above it instead of snapping?

Basically I teleported quite close to the left ledge (I was recovering horizontally so it was pretty much holding the directional stick to the right). I assumed it would snap but I appeared directly above the ledge instead and fell down to snap it moments later.

It's almost like she hit an invisible wall.

I think it's quite detrimental and it's happened to me TWICE (pre-patch as well). Though it does make me question whether there's more control to her teleport than we know...?

 

[Meru.]

Sakurai is doing this slowly but surely. Next game we'll probably get a 2% buff on Dtilt. And if we're really sweet we may have get 1% extra on a move like Uthrow or something! That's exactly what she needs after all, right?

I need a shoulder to cry on.

 

[Erotic&Heretic]

I'm starting to consider that Sakurai loves Zelda and Ganondorf and think they are good and well balanced.

 

[ZombieBran]

Didn't he say something about his Brawl main being Ganondorf?
Maybe, just maybe, he thinks they're balanced because he four stocks (or um three stocks) his scrubby coworkers with low tiers.

 

[Rizen]

I think Sakurai's a few directs short of a Miiverse.

 

[RyokoYaksa]

C/D: Do some characters still fall out Usmash with vectors? Fsmash still looks to be the same escapable garbage.

 

[Alphatron]

Can confirm Usmash is still garbage. From having terrible range to being unable to KO toon link at 150% to being unable to hit ZSS when she's standing right next to you (except for the last hit) to having Bowser of all characters just fall out of it.

Speaking of smash attacks, can fsmash actually hit opponents who have had their shield broken? I was testing this with a friend through use of phantom breaker and the fsmash kept tossing him behind me even though he wasn't making any attempt to vector. I guess faore's wind should be the go to option if you ever manage to break shields, but still.

 

[GameAngel64]

I have KOed somebody with F-Smash after breaking their shield. That was pre-patch, if that matters, but it shouldn't.

 

[ZombieBran]

I've gotten both results. But people have fallen out of it enough that I just go for a fair for damage or FW for a kill.

 

[Rickster]

So...we should punish broken shields with the Farore's Elevator thing? Or a kick? They're both pretty strong.

Oh, and of they're at like 130% or so you could use Din's to KO, lol. Then you can say that you killed with Din's. Phantom could work too, but it's not as humiliating.

And the thread title...
LOL.

 

[SBphiloz4]

On a random note, I made a Zelda Sm4sh 3DS compilation video, if any of you want to check it out! You can cleeeeearly see how different she was waaaaaay back in V1.0.3 compared to this newer patched version, right cccccc:

... Anyways, please check it out, and see what you think, everyone! Thanks!

http://youtu.be/BylRco1owHo

 

[BJN39]

On a random note, I made a Zelda Sm4sh 3DS compilation video, if any of you want to check it out! You can cleeeeearly see how different she was waaaaaay back in V1.0.3 compared to this newer patched version, right cccccc:

... Anyways, please check it out, and see what you think, everyone! Thanks!

http://youtu.be/BylRco1owHo

Wow you play so good! Especially for it being the 3DS.

Maybe you should make a very serious guide on SSB4 Zelda to show us how to properly Zelda everything.

 

[JigglyZelda003]

Fsmash still looks to be the same escapable garbage.

pivot sliding fsmash is like my favorite thing to do lol. Even though people still pop out sometimes.

 

[ZombieBran]

On a random note, I made a Zelda Sm4sh 3DS compilation video, if any of you want to check it out! You can cleeeeearly see how different she was waaaaaay back in V1.0.3 compared to this newer patched version, right cccccc:

... Anyways, please check it out, and see what you think, everyone! Thanks!

http://youtu.be/BylRco1owHo

I love your Farore usage.

And I love the title of this thread. Good job Aero.