Zelda information thread (last edit 02-24) Cleaning up, changing sections

[Arean]

Good point, peach is faster coz she is opt to run away from danger while zelda is ready to battle >:3

 

[Zelda_Sheik]

Possible reasons of why Peach runs faster than Zelda:
1. Because she is used to run from danger at high speeds.
2. Because she shops so much.
3. Because there is a 2 x 1 offer at Channel.
4. Because her heels have something that makes her run faster.
5. Because she is a bitc...
6. Because she suck at Tennis, Baseball, Golf, Football and in battle.
7. None of the above. :D

 

[Airgemini]

Peach just works out more I guess....
And besides Zelda's not that much slower than Peach anyways...

Videos....
Zelda vs MK- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXMtMejJ4BA&feature=related
Zelda vs PT- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1_TmirikT4
Meta Vs. Zelda Vs. Ness Vs. Ice Climber- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arSMM5rzPLI
Hylian(G&W) vs Kal(Zelda)- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FA5xMfXikA
Hylian(ZSS) vs Kal(Zelda)- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Er6Caqt0Rpw
Romo-Kal(TL-Zelda) vs Hylian-Tobias(ZSS-Luigi)- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnxHVXM0m-U
Kal(Zelda) vs Romo(Olimar)- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfXukjmoPi8
JTB (Jigglypuff) vs Brian (Zelda) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyCRoaQcW6Q
JTB (King Dedede) vs Brian (Shiek/Zelda) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SBgpgRP0GE
ADA (PT) vs Forte (Zelda)- http://youtube.com/watch?v=uQjoBiaeSvM
Light (Lucas) vs Forte (Zelda) - http://youtube.com/watch?v=i7x6SfRq7cc
Light (Pit) vs Forte (Zelda) - http://youtube.com/watch?v=Q2JGJB3wpVI
Light (Pit) vs Forte (Zelda) - http://youtube.com/watch?v=Wf_zrxKOa4Y
Light (G&W) vs Forte (Zelda) - http://youtube.com/watch?v=2AhF3wuglMA
Light (G&W) vs Forte (Zelda) - http://youtube.com/watch?v=cD9dkjQqQM0
Light (Pit) vs Forte (Zelda) - http://youtube.com/watch?v=-H5DXpD6M9Y

Computer matches.
Zelda vs Peach- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2tciQyQIPA
Zelda vs Zelda- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vr42IRRM65g
Link & Zelda vs Mario & Peach- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHfyNPzUZzk
Samus Vs. Zelda Vs. Peach- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgoczpXc9rE

Other.
Zelda/Sheik moveset- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nduLPb-v2zM
Zelda moveset- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imRIil8bwuY
Zelda's spike- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jd7TTUANag4&feature=related

Whew!!!!

 

[Iris]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=HB76YA-A68w

Dair for broken? <3 1:20

 

[Soluble Toast]

Zelda's castle is huge. I'd imagine it'd be a major work out for her to move from the throne room to the entrance. In TP the Throne room is miles away from the Entrance xD

Either that or Peach has tiny jet packs on her heels.
***** =D

 

[-spAzn-]

Also you have to take into consideration that Zelda's castle had no stairs on the main floor. So she probably had to climb or something to get to the second floor (unless she had a hookshot). There is no way you could not exercise in her castle. Ok that was random.

Anyway, nice video Iris haven't seen it before. That Dair was simply awesome she stomped that Jiggles down. I want to see more Dair kills. On a side note the announcer says Jigglypuffs name funny lol.

 

[Airgemini]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=HB76YA-A68w

Dair for broken? <3 1:20

Wow, I'm glad that it can kill at low low percents now....I wonder why Brawl Central didnt list this as one of her top 3 KO moves....

Oh and I found this thingy...
http://www.serebii.net/ssbb/characters/zelda.shtml

 

[Kips]

I'm finally satisfied! Zelda looks much better then before for gameplay and is definitely going to be one of my most played characters.

 

[Luthien]

I wonder why Brawl Central didnt list this as one of her top 3 KO moves....

Because it doesn't KO off the middle of the FD stage. Remember, it's a strange meteor smash in the sense that it won't send the opponent flying upwards if they're hit on the ground.

 

[Airgemini]

Because it doesn't KO off the middle of the FD stage. Remember, it's a strange meteor smash in the sense that it won't send the opponent flying upwards if they're hit on the ground.

Oh yeah I forgot about that.....
But still killing in the 30's is insane.....

 

[RyokoYaksa]

It does send people flying upwards weakly, but against grounded target it will never produce a lightning sweetspot, which is highly unfortunate.

Sweetspotting the Dair against aerial targets seems to based on timing rather than positioning like many moves in this game. From my experience the first hit frame produces the sweetspot, regardless of positioning. This is in contrast to fair/bair, which require heavy positioning to sweetspot in addition to the sweetspot only being viable for one frame.

Since it's kind of hard to see Zelda's feet while kicking in Brawl, mind the position of the sparkle. Hit them with the center of it.

 

[Ztarfish]

I always sucked with the Dair. And now it's a sweetspot. Dammit.

 

[Iris]

I'm okay with it being unusable on grounded enemies when it can KO characters at a negligible % while at ground level in the air. Jiggly was fairly high up (above the first platform) and it launched her to a point where most third jumps can't even fathom to recover. It seems like Zelda's other aerials are going to be more reliable than those lightning kicks.

 

[Iris]

Double post for awesome light arrow usage.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ms9FgxUitbo Once used in first battle, again in last battle.

 

[rampant_apart]

Wow, nice light arrow usage at the end. I mean, that's almost anime-like. Not shooting the Light Arrow into the opponents, not just ricocheting a soccer ball into them by shooting it with a Light Arrow, but ricocheting two soccer balls into two separate opponents and killing them at the same time. Do you think that was planned?

Of course, then she lost. ;_;

 

[Ztarfish]

Wow, nice light arrow usage at the end. I mean, that's almost anime-like. Not shooting the Light Arrow into the opponents, not just ricocheting a soccer ball into them by shooting it with a Light Arrow, but ricocheting two soccer balls into two separate opponents and killing them at the same time. Do you think that was planned?

Of course, then she lost. ;_;

OHH that's what that was. I almost pissed my pants when I saw the MOST DISJOINTED HITBOX EVAR! Anyhow, that's still sweet. It had to have been planned, they were like 50 feet above her. Maybe Soccer Balls home in? I dunno.

Anyway question time: Why does Marth's FS get all the credit for being amazing and crap like that when Zelda has the same thing without the chance of dying?

 

[Iris]

Zelda's light arrow is a bit more survivable. Sheik's is even less survivable, but Marth's is pretty guaranteed with perhaps a larger hitbox and quicker execution. I'd say they're both pretty dependable final smashes.

 

[RyokoYaksa]

Zelda's and Sheik's Final Smashes lose power as they hit successive targets, even non-player ones. In a FFA it's not really going to amount to 3 insta KOs unless the other targets have high enough damage to start.

 

[Ztarfish]

I dunno, in the video you showed the first Light Arrow showed that it had a pretty good vertical range for just being a straight line. Marth's FS hits at a more upwards angle correct? And off the top KO's are easier correct? If so then that makes more sense.

Whatever, Marth's isn't fun to watch at all.

Zelda's and Sheik's Final Smashes lose power as they hit successive targets, even non-player ones. In a FFA it's not really going to amount to 3 insta KOs unless the other targets have high enough damage to start.

Ahh thanks. That sorta sucks a bit.

Whatever, Marth's is still uninspired and boring >.<

 

[Arean]

This one is quite interesting....

The princesses got to use their final smash twice....

Bowser and Zelda vs Ganondorf and Peach

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=op6hZhkPt_I

 

[Kips]

The Light Arrow really is interesting on easy KO maps though, because it just plain blows people away!

 

[GreyFox86]

**** straight...all in all zelda just got better and for the true zelda players from melee, like me, they will be please with the changes

 

[Drake3]

I just re-read a few of the earlier posts and I have to say we were pretty accurate in deciphering that terrible video. I totally called Dair having magical properties. Somehow.

 

[RyokoYaksa]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=rLAqiC2_Ywo

I found this match and its commentary amusing.

 

[Pappioll]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=rLAqiC2_Ywo

I found this match and its commentary amusing.

Haha! Zelda VS Falco was amazing. That lightning kick at the end was very amusing

 

[GreyFox86]

wow the kick at the end sealed his fate....if he had a fate

anyways...that was a good match...the whole grabing the edge from your backside kinda threw me off but thats just fine

 

[darkatma]

uhhh lol
that wasn't that great of a match ._,
I'm just kinda amused that araknaphobic got owned so hard
(if you read this fabian, LOL suck)


I'm glad i switched my icon back, this way i don't feel associated with brawl noobs

edit:
LOL ryoko i thought your statement about your icon said :"Uses zelda's ****", as a continuation of that joke that guy made about how zelda's **** [tilts] are a substitute for her smashes.

 

[Tsucasa13]

At 4:00, Zelda's Farore's Wind canceled Link's arrow (and Farore's Wind was also canceled). It looks to be only lucky timing, though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmpdxFmwEJo

Sorry if this was already known.

 

[Stiputation]

Sexy time! Sexy time!

Brawl is coming out in just EIGHT MORE DAYS my dearies! Soon, we'll all be playing with Zleda and zooming around the fourms with our pants filled with hot Zelda action! =D

Oh the splendor! Oh the marvelousness! Ohhhh ODE TO JOY!

 

[Wind Owl]

o_o.......

 

[Luthien]

Brawl is coming out in just EIGHT MORE DAYS my dearies! Soon, we'll all be playing with Zleda and zooming around the fourms with our pants filled with hot Zelda action! =D

Oh the splendor! Oh the marvelousness! Ohhhh ODE TO JOY!

@.@

Nice to see you're back, Stip.

 

[Arean]

Well I have to wait a week or two more after the american release date....
Since here in the philippines we get those games after a week or so..... T__T the pain

 

[Stiputation]

Oh why thank you my dear!
It is a pleasure to be back and discussing (MY)Zelda with my fellow tootsie pops!

I haven't really been into very many Zelda videos though. After a while, it just gets kinda sad to see Zelda played by other people, when you want to get your hands on her SOOOOOO BAD. And by that...I mean video game wise.

 

[GameAngel64]

Oh why thank you my dear!
It is a pleasure to be back and discussing (MY)Zelda with my fellow tootsie pops!

I haven't really been into very many Zelda videos though. After a while, it just gets kinda sad to see Zelda played by other people, when you want to get your hands on her SOOOOOO BAD. And by that...I mean video game wise.

My sentiments exactly. It's even more painful to watch a vid if the player does something differently than you would have, and it turns out badly for them

 

[Crispy Fries]

My sentiments exactly. It's even more painful to watch a vid if the player does something differently than you would have, and it turns out badly for them

Oh my gosh, that's exactly what I think when I watch videos!
I'm always thinking things like "too much kick spamming", "shouldn't have used Din's Fire there", and "that would have been the perfect time to use Up Air".

 

[Stiputation]

My sentiments exactly. It's even more painful to watch a vid if the player does something differently than you would have, and it turns out badly for them

GOD YES! I can never help scream at my monitor. "USE NARYU'S LOVE! USE THE LIGHTNING KICK! JUMP YOU IDIOT JUMP!"

Tis really bad.

 

[25%Cotton]

GOD YES! I can never help scream at my monitor. "USE NARYU'S LOVE! USE THE LIGHTNING KICK! JUMP YOU IDIOT JUMP!"

Tis really bad.

i'm not even very good with zelda and i get pretty testy watching zeldas fail. XD

 

[Lightningmage]

Well...now that the game is out, I'm loving Zelda. I played her in melee and she got buffs. I spammed dair like crazy in melee so now I'm being rewarded. And of course, the Din's Fire is amazing. However, I truly feel Nayru's Love got the shaft. With the "slow-mo on multi-hit" engine I thought Nayru would be pretty awesome to watch diamond shards ripping through people, but no go. It does pitiful damage and doesn't even stun half the time. It has a switch-direction effect I don't quite understand, but that's all. Any discoveries on this?

 

[rampant_apart]

Well, there was some invincibility attached to Naryu's Lurve. We've seen a Zelda player make a Marth whiff a forward smash with it and hit him with the diamond shards, as stated in the first post. Beyond that, I haven't heard too much about this move. It's all about the Din currently.

 

[Jarri]

Very handy ^_^