Yugioh anyone?

[ぱみゅ]

idk, I can't truly see it game-changing, not even countering properly, I'd rather keep using D.D.Crows /silly

 

[Pink Reaper]

Actually it's a great card in conjuncture with Tour Guide

Tour Guide->Tour Bus->XYZ 3->Detatch Tour Bus->Send 1 back to deck. It's a great way to recycle Tour Guide itself, which is broken all on it's own.

 

[ThunderSt0rm]

But that's what I don't get. I thought overlay units weren't considered to be "cards", or at the least they aren't considered "cards on the field".

.-.

 

[Pink Reaper]

who cares? Eff activates in the grave simply by being put in the grave. It's the same as Dandy, doesnt matter where it was, what it was, if it's put in the grave, eff activates.

 

[ThunderSt0rm]

Never mind, I was still a bit confused/mixed up with the whole overlay unit thing due to the wording change on Darksoul.

 

[Strong Badam]

Yugimons is pretty good. It upsets me when they purposefully print broken cards into a format and then ban or limit it a few months later. Ruins the metagame almost every format.

 

[ぱみゅ]

I'm fairly sure we'll see Rescue Rabbit somewhere on the next banlist.

 

[ThunderSt0rm]

Yugimons is pretty good. It upsets me when they purposefully print broken cards into a format and then ban or limit it a few months later. Ruins the metagame almost every format.

Not only that but it also makes the game expensive.

 

[~GregDang!~]

Yugimons is pretty good. It upsets me when they purposefully print broken cards into a format and then ban or limit it a few months later. Ruins the metagame almost every format.

Yu-Gi-Oh! is a bad game. Especially in this format where I see a ton more of luck then skill.

 

[ぱみゅ]

Yu-Gi-Oh! is a bad game. Especially in this format where I see a ton more of broken cards/strategies then skill.

Fixed and bolded

 

[Strong Badam]

Yu-Gi-Oh! is a bad game. Especially in this format where I see a ton more of luck then skill.

it's a card game what do you expect

 

[~GregDang!~]

it's a card game what do you expect

Doesn't happen in Magic or Pokemon.

 

[MysteryRevengerson]

Doesn't happen in Magic or Pokemon.

I can play magic against my friend and he might win in a few turns or I might win, whereas other games are really long. Plus, there's always the chance of too much land/high cost cards in the beginning.

Luck is a part of all card games by defualt. :V

 

[Pink Reaper]

There's really very little luck involved with Yugioh nowadays. At this point it's like, 10% luck, 90% Rescue Bunny

 

[~GregDang!~]

You guys are crazy. Magic's average turns to win has to be like 8-10 Turns, Yu-Gi-Oh!'s average has to be like 3-5 Turns with crazy busted cards in the game. Honestly, its whoever goes first and has Dustshoot. That already there is showing how much the game is luck based and also how going first is pretty much a +1 or more.

 

[MysteryRevengerson]

...Dustshoot?

Out of ALL the infinitely worse cards, Dustshoot involves the most luck/is the worst?

Number of turns also doesn't say that Magic doesn't involves luck.

 

[~GregDang!~]

Yea, you're right I take it back about Dustshoot. Its all about winning the die roll. And I know every game has luck, just Yu-Gi-Oh! stands out the most.

 

[Pink Reaper]

Yugioh decks are mostly built to minimize luck as much as possible. Rather than hoping for one really broken lucky play decks revolve more around multiple cards that allow you to get that play no matter what. To that end there's only really bad luck in YuGiOh rather than good as the norm will be to draw into an average hand that will allow you to get your play, where as when luck comes into the equation you'll draw into only useless cards.

 

[Vyke]

YuGiOh doesn't have a resource factor built into it's game as the other games do. Games tend to move faster because of this.

I have seen Vintage Magic. I don't think YuGiOh is committing any crimes compared.

 

[ThunderSt0rm]

There's really very little luck involved with Yugioh nowadays. At this point it's like, 10% luck, 90% Size of Wallet

Fixed that for ya.

 

[Pink Reaper]

Nah, that's the same with any given card game. You can make good decks for cheap in Magic/Pokemon TCG, but you gotta go in hard on the money if you want Top Tier decks.

 

[ThunderSt0rm]

But I see it as more of a problem in yugioh. I recently started playing the pokemon tcg and so far I don't know of a top deck that would cost more than maybe $200-300. A single Tour Guide is around $170 so for a playset alone that's something like $450-500.

Imo that's a pretty big gap.

 

[MysteryRevengerson]

I don't know much about price (since I just dabble on DN) and I always see people bring up Tour guide or Rescue Rabbit

Are they really parts of the best deck(s) now? I don't remember hearing anyone mention the price of other cards in top tier decks.

 

[~GregDang!~]

If you don't have Tour Guide, the only competitive deck you can really only play is Kakakuri. Tour Guide defines this format.

 

[Pink Reaper]

Nah, fairies works extremely well even without tour guide, same at lightsworn and theyre both pretty top tier decks.

 

[Gamegenie222]

If you don't have Tour Guide, the only competitive deck you can really only play is Kakakuri. Tour Guide defines this format.

What about Tengu plants?

 

[~GregDang!~]

What about Tengu plants?

They run Tour Guide....

 

[Gamegenie222]

Stupid me forgot bout that. Also love this field presence best field ever.

 

[Vyke]

Secret Village of The Spellcasters + Royal Decree + Relinquished summoned /w Djinn Releaser of Rituals = GG

Unless they can normal summon a double-attacker over the current attack of Relinquished. Or use Lyla to pop Secret Village. :/

 

[ぱみゅ]

You can just destroy Village by setting a field card.

 

[ThunderSt0rm]

No, setting a field spell while an opponent's field spell is active does not destroy it. Your field spell must activate and resolve successfully to destroy an opponent's field spell.

 

[ぱみゅ]

At least, that used to happen in earlier videogames... Even some Konami rulings like Morphtronic Map and Gear Town said that "in the even a field card is set by the opponent, the card is not destroyed at all and the effect of summoning a monster after their destruction does not resolve"
If ruling was changed (again), I stand corrected.

 

[MysteryRevengerson]

I've been seeing Relinquished lately (as in, I've never seen it before but I'm suddenly running into it)

Did something happen? Because it's actually REALLY annoying

 

[Vyke]

Yes, setting a field spell would work. Check your rule-books, everyone...

What deck runs a field spell that you should care about? Malefics? Fine, insert Dark Simorgh.

Relinquished got more popular because Tour Guide happened. The lockdown I posted is not standard of the deck, though.

 

[MysteryRevengerson]

You sure? Because even when tourguide started showing up I hadn't seen it.

And have there been any details on the 20 tcg cards? (I'm probably just really behind)

 

[Vyke]

I mean, most people probably really didn't jump to "Tour Guide... ? RELINQUISHED!"

naw what I mean? Djinn Releaser of Rituals just happens to be 3 stars and a fiend. :o

 

[~GregDang!~]

I'm still drunk and want to play Yu-Gi-Oh!. Is that bad?

 

[Gamegenie222]

I'm still drunk and want to play Yu-Gi-Oh!. Is that bad?

After you said you gonna quit, yeah that's bad.

 

[MysteryRevengerson]

Okay, Spellcaster's Village of Bull**** is mad stupid

 

[Vyke]

It would be if there weren't so many outs to it in the form of Kycoo and other popular spellcasters these days.