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Social Young Link Discussion
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DerfMidWest
Fresh ******
Psh, silly lake.
Zelda deserves to die.
Oh another cool thing, zelda is bad at dealing with people's shields. All her moves have bad shieldstun and quite a bit of endlag so you can punish anything she hits your shield with.
Once you get zelda into shield, she has two viable options.
A) kick. If you space yourself she cant hit you due to poor mobility and you can punish her slow *** jump
B) naryu's. I dont consider this truly viable, but some more gimmicky zeldas use it. It has surprising range, but is super weak and has a ton of endlag, CC and shield destroy it.
optimal DI on Zelda's throws is down and through her (specifically dthrow, if you DI wrong it combos into kick)
But you shouldnt get grabbed because zelda's grab is slower than tether chars and has not very much range.
You also just never need to let her get close enough to grab you.
Zelda deserves to die.
Oh another cool thing, zelda is bad at dealing with people's shields. All her moves have bad shieldstun and quite a bit of endlag so you can punish anything she hits your shield with.
Once you get zelda into shield, she has two viable options.
A) kick. If you space yourself she cant hit you due to poor mobility and you can punish her slow *** jump
B) naryu's. I dont consider this truly viable, but some more gimmicky zeldas use it. It has surprising range, but is super weak and has a ton of endlag, CC and shield destroy it.
optimal DI on Zelda's throws is down and through her (specifically dthrow, if you DI wrong it combos into kick)
But you shouldnt get grabbed because zelda's grab is slower than tether chars and has not very much range.
You also just never need to let her get close enough to grab you.
choknater
Smash Obsessed
yah i just throw bombs the whole match
BRLNK88
Smash Ace
Zelda's entire metagame pretty much relies on bad spacing from an opponent.
That's why a good Zelda can **** an average Marth.
That's why a good Zelda can **** an average Marth.
DerfMidWest
Fresh ******
Zelda gets wrecked pretty hard by marth... Lol.
Honestly, either be right in her face or way out of her range.
You have no place in between.
Honestly, either be right in her face or way out of her range.
You have no place in between.
BRLNK88
Smash Ace
I don't deny Marth destroys Zelda, that's why I said AVERAGE Marths vs a GOOD Zelda.
A couple years ago when I was still developing my Marth I played against someone who used to main Zelda, my spacing was awful and I ate fair on every stock.
You do know a long ways back Zelda was pretty high on the tier list?
DerfMidWest
Fresh ******
Ah ok I see, I just misunderstoon what you were saying.
And yea i know about her former placing... It makes me chuckle.
And yea i know about her former placing... It makes me chuckle.
onionchowder
Smash Journeyman
What do you guys call Zelda's F/Bair? I know "Lightning Kick" is common, but I'm particularly fond of "Lazer Foot"
DerfMidWest
Fresh ******
TAZAH TOES.
(caps)
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DerfMidWest
Fresh ******
I would imagine that YL has the advantage
BRLNK88
Smash Ace
YL has the advantage if he plays it correctly.
Zelda can play it correctly and still get eaten alive by projectiles.
She also dies early and can actually get comboed pretty well.
YL tends to really mess up floaties in a similar way that Link does, its really just Marth that gives him big issues cuz of the long metal stick.
Zelda can play it correctly and still get eaten alive by projectiles.
She also dies early and can actually get comboed pretty well.
YL tends to really mess up floaties in a similar way that Link does, its really just Marth that gives him big issues cuz of the long metal stick.
Grim Tuesday
Smash Legend
Wouldn't he have more trouble against Fox/Falco?
He has no window to do anything against them (too mobile/fast/good at controlling space), he can at least hit Marth by out-playing him.
He has no window to do anything against them (too mobile/fast/good at controlling space), he can at least hit Marth by out-playing him.
.Chipmunk.
Smash Ace
He was talking about floaties specifically. Not the fast fallers.
BRLNK88
Smash Ace
People in this forum don't seem to read my posts properly, lol.
AXE 09
Smash Master
Holy crap I just learned something new!
Sorry if this is already known by all you guys. I had no idea about this though lol.
So the super jump glitch in 1.0 and 1.1...
I found out that if you press B right after you catch the boomerang, you'll go WAY higher!
I guess the arrow just cancels somehow, and for some reason makes him go a lot higher. The sooner you press B (after he catches the boomerang), the higher you'll go.
Normally you can pull like 4/5 bombs before you touch the floor, but with this you can pull 10+ bombs all while still in the air.
Also he shoots off to the side of the screen for some reason, instead of towards the middle of the stage. I'm having a lot of fun with this lol.
Yup... I love Young Link
Sorry if this is already known by all you guys. I had no idea about this though lol.
So the super jump glitch in 1.0 and 1.1...
I found out that if you press B right after you catch the boomerang, you'll go WAY higher!
I guess the arrow just cancels somehow, and for some reason makes him go a lot higher. The sooner you press B (after he catches the boomerang), the higher you'll go.
Normally you can pull like 4/5 bombs before you touch the floor, but with this you can pull 10+ bombs all while still in the air.
Also he shoots off to the side of the screen for some reason, instead of towards the middle of the stage. I'm having a lot of fun with this lol.
Yup... I love Young Link
DerfMidWest
Fresh ******
How does one do this glitch?
MonkUnit
Project M Back Roomer
In 1.0/1.1, throw a boomerang and then tether the stage. If you catch the boomerang while you're hanging on your tether, you will rocket upwards.
choknater
Smash Obsessed
haahhaha nice axe! u discovered the link super jump on your own
thats too good. shows that you're really experimenting
thats too good. shows that you're really experimenting
AXE 09
Smash Master
^I mean I've already known about the super jump for years now. I just didn't know about this "arrow cancel" trick that makes you go like 5x as high lol. Has this already been known?
choknater
Smash Obsessed
oh wow lol
no it hasn't
that's new tech
we gotta call it the axe jump
make a video!
no it hasn't
that's new tech
we gotta call it the axe jump
make a video!
N.A.G.A.C.E
Smash Champion
Lol armada is going to use that new tech to time out hbox next time they play
AXE 09
Smash Master
Lol the Axe jump hahaha.
I don't have any recording equipment There's a ton of tricks you can do in 1.0 and 1.1 that helps out YL a lot
1.0 needs to be legal!
I don't have any recording equipment
There's a ton of tricks you can do in 1.0 and 1.1 that helps out YL a lot1.0 needs to be legal!
DerfMidWest
Fresh ******
Well... 1.0 is not banned...
Lol
But it should be standard.
Lol
But it should be standard.
Melee SD remix demo 1 is out!
And finally, so are the character change lists!
http://www.smashmods.com/forum/forum-196.html
Also, here's some of their work in action:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRNU8CHevf0
Link to the SDR thread in my sig.
And finally, so are the character change lists!
http://www.smashmods.com/forum/forum-196.html
Also, here's some of their work in action:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRNU8CHevf0
Link to the SDR thread in my sig.
BRLNK88
Smash Ace
What are the odds of this having its own tournaments?
That Link looks smexy.
.Chipmunk.
Smash Ace
I have a recording setup, and I just got a copy of 1.1. Axe, hmu on aim and we'll see if we can hash out a day to get this done. sithlordv8rLol the Axe jump hahaha.
I don't have any recording equipment
1.0 needs to be legal!
choknater
Smash Obsessed
what si vudu dashing?
oukd
Smash Lord
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choknater
Smash Obsessed
ROFL
STYLISH!!!!
nice
STYLISH!!!!
nice
oukd
Smash Lord
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Axe I decided to go ahead and make a video of it <_< hope nobody minds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEzF_TecWNY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEzF_TecWNY
AXE 09
Smash Master
Thank youuuuu Dkuo
oukd
Smash Lord
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lots of people are saying it's not new in the comments
not sure if they're thinking im just showing the super jump, or the jump boost is actually old tech...can someone confirm if it's an old technique?
also axe...are you axepika on youtube? i read a comment by tai once saying the account wasn't you <_< and i know you post as azaxe
not sure if they're thinking im just showing the super jump, or the jump boost is actually old tech...can someone confirm if it's an old technique?
also axe...are you axepika on youtube? i read a comment by tai once saying the account wasn't you <_< and i know you post as azaxe
Shadocat
Smash Ace
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0SBVg-jarQ
Hey axe i saw the match where you used young link vs marth. who do you think is easier to fight marth with. Pikachu or young link??
Hey axe i saw the match where you used young link vs marth. who do you think is easier to fight marth with. Pikachu or young link??
Grim Tuesday
Smash Legend
>Saw Avenger run up to Axe's shield, wait, and then fsmash it.
Close tab.
Close tab.
BRLNK88
Smash Ace
If I had the time and software I'd be willing to make a compilation of Mr.Williamson's 1.0 shenanigans to prove why it should be allowed/standard.
AXE 09
Smash Master
I have a ton of tricks in 1.0 that I haven't shown you guys in matches yet :D
This character is so boss lol
This character is so boss lol
Theftz22
Smash Lord
If it lasts that long with ylink...how long could it last with link? I think the biggest problem is just how much damage you tack on while you float up there haha.