Z'zgashi
Smash Legend
So my scene is gonna allow fatigueless/non-force swtiched PT at some events, so you may see some results/vids of me using Ivy. 
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Myollnir
Smash Ace
Cool. 
You don't like the others?
You don't like the others?
Z'zgashi
Smash Legend
Ive always loved Ivysaur and shes easily one of, if not my favorite character in the game (I think I have a thing for green reptiles, seeing as I normally co-main Bowser and Yoshi lol), and the other two while I do like them, just dont compare. When I first played smash, Ivysaur was one of the first characters I played and when I DID play her, her playstyle just fit. I originally wanted to main Ivy, but after realizing at a competitive level how she sucked and also was forced to switch as well as fatigue, I just didnt want to deal with that and switched to Yoshi as he was the most viable of the 3 I liked with Bowser as a secondary even though I like him a bit better than Yoshi (and my pocket weegee xD). Now Ive fallen back into a state where I just play who I like and dont care about viability, so Ive gone to maining Bowser, and while I did try and add in Ivy, I just didnt want to deal with fatigue and force switching.
But yeah, thats my story... Lol xD
But yeah, thats my story... Lol xD
Myollnir
Smash Ace
Interesting story.
I know what you feel, I originally only liked Squirtle, but after playing as PT for a few weeks, I realized that Ivy and Zard were fun as well. I think even if fatigueless/non-force switched PT was allowed, I wouldn't play him. The good thing with PT is that since you play 3 characters at once, you're never bored! :D
If you like the others Pokémon, maybe you'll end up playing PT, who knows? But Squirtle and Zard aren't green.
Tbh, I play to win. I main ICs and MK/PT. I've played MK since I play competitively, but I recently realized I do better with PT...
So I guess I'll stick with PT (he "covers" well some characters that the ICs don't like, such as Peach, ZSS (-1) or Ness (+1), and is good on every stage in the game except FD imo). If the MU against a character is the same with both characters I play, I'll go PT.
Having a pocket MK is always good anyway.
I like Bowser as well, he's my low tier character! :D
He has like 3 really good moves (Klaw, Fortress, Grab) and everything is bad/terrible, but he's really fun. The bad thing about him is that my reaction time is too bad for me to chaingrab out of GRs...
Yoshi is the character I hate the most lol... He just doesn't fit to my playstyle.
I know what you feel, I originally only liked Squirtle, but after playing as PT for a few weeks, I realized that Ivy and Zard were fun as well. I think even if fatigueless/non-force switched PT was allowed, I wouldn't play him. The good thing with PT is that since you play 3 characters at once, you're never bored! :D
If you like the others Pokémon, maybe you'll end up playing PT, who knows? But Squirtle and Zard aren't green.
Tbh, I play to win. I main ICs and MK/PT. I've played MK since I play competitively, but I recently realized I do better with PT...
So I guess I'll stick with PT (he "covers" well some characters that the ICs don't like, such as Peach, ZSS (-1) or Ness (+1), and is good on every stage in the game except FD imo). If the MU against a character is the same with both characters I play, I'll go PT.
Having a pocket MK is always good anyway.
I like Bowser as well, he's my low tier character! :D
He has like 3 really good moves (Klaw, Fortress, Grab) and everything is bad/terrible, but he's really fun. The bad thing about him is that my reaction time is too bad for me to chaingrab out of GRs...
Yoshi is the character I hate the most lol... He just doesn't fit to my playstyle.
Z'zgashi
Smash Legend
Sonic is my worst too lol.
Myollnir
Smash Ace
He's also one of my worst characters.
On a side note I thought about making a list of moves that can be avoided by using Ivysaur's U-tilt. Is someone interested by this?
On a side note I thought about making a list of moves that can be avoided by using Ivysaur's U-tilt. Is someone interested by this?
Myollnir
Smash Ace
Okay, I'll do it.
I also edited this :
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=15021406&postcount=1341
and this http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=15009933&postcount=1621
It contains many small things about the character (ledge options, mobility tricks, as well as a list of characters than can be hit through platforms). I'll do the same for Ivysaur, then I'll do the U-tilt list.
You might want to give a look.
I also edited this :
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=15021406&postcount=1341
and this http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=15009933&postcount=1621
It contains many small things about the character (ledge options, mobility tricks, as well as a list of characters than can be hit through platforms). I'll do the same for Ivysaur, then I'll do the U-tilt list.
You might want to give a look.
I addressed the Up-B sound issue in the PMBR; we're discussing potential alternatives now.
T-block
B2B TST
excellent excellent
i've complained to no fewer than three pmbr members so far
i've complained to no fewer than three pmbr members so far
I just read the Squirt one; good stuffOkay, I'll do it.
I also edited this :
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=15021406&postcount=1341
and this http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=15009933&postcount=1621
It contains many small things about the character (ledge options, mobility tricks, as well as a list of characters than can be hit through platforms). I'll do the same for Ivysaur, then I'll do the U-tilt list.
You might want to give a look.
. I learned several things like ledge drop...Fair will land on the platform without moving forward.
How nice.
DON'T TEST ME, BOY
DON'T TEST ME, BOY
Myollnir
Smash Ace
Phiddlesticks
Smash Lord
dont mind me, just posting links to animal porn
Please, don't be like that. Eventually, it counts as inappropriate content to me, because it's intentionally misleading.
I try to be nice. Don't give me a hard time.
I try to be nice. Don't give me a hard time.
Phiddlesticks
Smash Lord
twas merely a harmless jest, m'lord
T-block
B2B TST
#SavePMIvysaur
Agreed with Squirtle + PS1/SV. I'd be partial to PS1 if I were in that situation, just because I feel like SV can be pretty small as Charizard against a few characters... the main idea is the switching opportunities though, imo.
Agreed with Squirtle + PS1/SV. I'd be partial to PS1 if I were in that situation, just because I feel like SV can be pretty small as Charizard against a few characters... the main idea is the switching opportunities though, imo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bdg3Jv_nT4c&t=1m35s
I only Squirt once.
YOLO.
I think I wanna main pokemon trainer again.
I only Squirt once.
YOLO.
I think I wanna main pokemon trainer again.
T-block
B2B TST
you broke my heart game 3 </3
the bomberman texture is cute, but did you actually have to play with it? i'd be hella distracted =\
the bomberman texture is cute, but did you actually have to play with it? i'd be hella distracted =\
^This x ten
.No, I would normally keep all textures on, as I have a fully finished CSS with all CSPs done, but some people dont know how to turn off textures before a match or simply pick an un textured color so i just leave music and mild stage textures on these days.
game 3 broke my heart too man. I didn't know he had his jump or that olimar could even make it back from so far. i like the matchup a bit better now though. Its so nice to have a real jab against olimar. sonic is so bad.
game 3 broke my heart too man. I didn't know he had his jump or that olimar could even make it back from so far. i like the matchup a bit better now though. Its so nice to have a real jab against olimar. sonic is so bad.
Myollnir
Smash Ace
@Reflex : LOL
@Tesh : That was fun lol. I hate that texture though, I don't know how you can play with it.
@Rizen : Honestly, I don't know about the stage. My personal favourite is probably Yoshi's Island (a really solid pick imo). I also love BF and Lylat, and SV guarantees you free switches. If you don't know which character you'll have to face, I guess starting with Squirtle on SV is the safest option.
@Tesh : That was fun lol. I hate that texture though, I don't know how you can play with it.
@Rizen : Honestly, I don't know about the stage. My personal favourite is probably Yoshi's Island (a really solid pick imo). I also love BF and Lylat, and SV guarantees you free switches. If you don't know which character you'll have to face, I guess starting with Squirtle on SV is the safest option.
stingers
Smash Obsessed
Actually sonics utilt is the most satisfying sound in the game. I've tested. Ivys close though.
Get out. *points to door*Actually sonics utilt is the most satisfying sound in the game. I've tested. Ivys close though.
T-block
B2B TST
excuse me who the hell do you think you areActually sonics utilt is the most satisfying sound in the game. I've tested. Ivys close though.
Myollnir
Smash Ace
Squirtle's D-smash beats his own SideB... Don't ask me how I found this lol, but does someone know why? It might be a stupid question, but I'd like to know... :D
Edit : I was testing how many % you need to inflict to Squirtle to make him turn around during his withdraw. Apparently it's 7%. Meaning it'll beat any attack that has at least a bit of cooldown that inflicts 6% or less, even if Squirtle will move slowly when he'll hit.
The percentage is slightly higher on Lylat, but not on YI (the main platform) as far as I know.
It can also avoids things like Falco's Laser since he's low on the ground.
Oh and while I'm at it, uncharged watergun (vine whip as well) behaves like an aerial if unleashed in the air, which means it cannot clank. For instance, you can reliably beat Snake's U-tilt with it when trying to land (you just have to move while using it so the U-tilt doesn't connect with Squirtle's body). The hitbox will hit his leg.
The fact that it behaves like an aerial is not that surprising (you probably know this already), but this + the fact that it has a disjointed hitbox is pretty good. You can beat Marth's F-air with it (you'll hit his hand).
Edit : I was testing how many % you need to inflict to Squirtle to make him turn around during his withdraw. Apparently it's 7%. Meaning it'll beat any attack that has at least a bit of cooldown that inflicts 6% or less, even if Squirtle will move slowly when he'll hit.
The percentage is slightly higher on Lylat, but not on YI (the main platform) as far as I know.
It can also avoids things like Falco's Laser since he's low on the ground.
Oh and while I'm at it, uncharged watergun (vine whip as well) behaves like an aerial if unleashed in the air, which means it cannot clank. For instance, you can reliably beat Snake's U-tilt with it when trying to land (you just have to move while using it so the U-tilt doesn't connect with Squirtle's body). The hitbox will hit his leg.
The fact that it behaves like an aerial is not that surprising (you probably know this already), but this + the fact that it has a disjointed hitbox is pretty good. You can beat Marth's F-air with it (you'll hit his hand).
T-block
B2B TST
as in it knocks him right out of it?
Myollnir
Smash Ace
Yeah... Are there any other moves like this?
Myollnir
Smash Ace
ZSS's paralyser and D-Smash beat it as well, but Squirtle's D-Smash is really surprising...
Blubolouis
Smash Lord
Maybe cuz it's water element. Try with a grass-type move.
For all it's worth, the far hitboxes on Squirtle's D-Smash only hit grounded opponents. Not sure if that is related.