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X or Y? - PT Social
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T-block
B2B TST
It's generally agreed that Razor Leaf barely counts as a projectile =x
I suppose I should qualify that I like Ivysaur when she has space to work with. I feel completely fine on FD against Kirby. Lylat might be a little more awkward.
I feel like f-air should hit even a grounded Kirby, unless he's ducking. Am I wrong?
I suppose I should qualify that I like Ivysaur when she has space to work with. I feel completely fine on FD against Kirby. Lylat might be a little more awkward.
I feel like f-air should hit even a grounded Kirby, unless he's ducking. Am I wrong?
It -can- hit him, but that doesn't mean it will. He'll shield it and then do whatever the hell he wants with you.
T-block
B2B TST
Can he f-smash or something? How is that different from any other character being able to punish f-air on shield?
Phiddlesticks
Smash Lord
he probably can, and it isnt
Zigsta
Disney Film Director
Yo Mike, my Kirby's gonna **** you at Genesis.
Get ready for 8 minute matches, son.
Get ready for 8 minute matches, son.
Zigsta
Disney Film Director
The fact that he can get in on you pretty easily. A lot of it has to do with how short he is, and his ability to because your options for keeping him out are limited as a result. Ivysaur does best when she can mix up the timing for her aerials, which keeps people from running in whenever they want, but you don't have that option against particularly short characters. Ivysaur thrives on indecision, and when she can't make the opponent think, "I should wait for a second," she has a significantly harder time with just about everything.
You only have so much room in which you can pivot grab.
Good job. It's probably for the best.
T-block
B2B TST
Interesting way to think about Ivysaur, Reflex... I'll keep that in mind.
T-block
B2B TST
Yo Aposl, stop by Alberta rooms some time, yeah?
Zigsta
Disney Film Director
Texas room's where it's at. 11 people in one room.
Hyyyyyyyyype.
Hyyyyyyyyype.
T-block
B2B TST
lol that's gonna be so gross
Zigsta
Disney Film Director
If by gross you mean
AMAZING.
AMAZING.
Has anyone practiced straight-up camping with Pokémon Trainer? Like, trying to camp as much as possible?
T-block
B2B TST
LOL your avatar
i think i've tried against snake?
what's on your mind?
i think i've tried against snake?
what's on your mind?
stingers
Smash Obsessed
pt board has so many mods!
I wonder if PT has the potential to abuse it well, since Squirtle's pokes are amazing, Ivysaur usually can't approach well to begin with, and Charizard has great ground speed, nice retreating projectiles and aerials, and a fantastic grab range. He seems to have good potential in that outside of the fatigue aspect, which can be worked around with smart switching (especially if your aim is not primarily to KO).
I don't mod this board, though--I'm over the Atlantic South and Wario. Zigsta is over Wario and Bowser.
stingers
Smash Obsessed
well, a lot of mods happen to use PT then =p
T-block
B2B TST
Naw, just the mods that do happen to post a lot =x
I think there's only a few matchups where it's worth actually going aggressive because of fatigue, and they tend to be the ones where Squirtle does well but the other two get absolutely wrecked (Diddy). Other than that, there's no reason for PT to play any less campy than any other character, as long as you're willing to switch.
I think there's only a few matchups where it's worth actually going aggressive because of fatigue, and they tend to be the ones where Squirtle does well but the other two get absolutely wrecked (Diddy). Other than that, there's no reason for PT to play any less campy than any other character, as long as you're willing to switch.
Gamegenie222
Space Pheasant Dragon Tactician
Hey all of you PKMN trainers the Falco boards are discussing the Falco/PKMN trainer MU and we want to contribute looking at you Reflex.
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=306421
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=306421
Zigsta
Disney Film Director
I'm actually over Bowser, PT, Wario, and Southwest.
PT boards always have a special place on my heart though. <3
PT boards always have a special place on my heart though. <3
I've been playing the character more often lately. It's refreshing, for sure. Trying to make better use of the stuff I neglected before.
Zigsta
Disney Film Director
I actually played him a bit today. :0
CoonTail
Smash Lord
I'm glad to see our players coming back a bit...see T-block me losing my **** did help!!! LOL about that.......
But as far as camping with PT goes.....it's starting to seem like in a large portion of matchup's PT playing back even with fatigue is the better game play option. Against most higher tier characters its a necessity and I've been using it a lot more. Yoshi fails so miserably if you play back it's funny.
With everyone back though I have to say I am still not thrilled at where the tier list left us. Our matchups are pretty damn outdated if thats where we ended. Please luis feel free to correct me.
But as far as camping with PT goes.....it's starting to seem like in a large portion of matchup's PT playing back even with fatigue is the better game play option. Against most higher tier characters its a necessity and I've been using it a lot more. Yoshi fails so miserably if you play back it's funny.
With everyone back though I have to say I am still not thrilled at where the tier list left us. Our matchups are pretty damn outdated if thats where we ended. Please luis feel free to correct me.
I do feel that our matchup chart is outdated, but the fact of the matter is, we don't have much data to support matchups either way. Unless we can grab people that we've played recently to comment on the matchups, I'm not sure how much we say will seem like much more than character bias.
I'd be happy to help as much as I can, though. I was thinking about adding my own viewpoints to character matchups in my guide, or, at least, making an "at a glance" guide to individual matchups for quick pointers to remember.
I'd be happy to help as much as I can, though. I was thinking about adding my own viewpoints to character matchups in my guide, or, at least, making an "at a glance" guide to individual matchups for quick pointers to remember.
CoonTail
Smash Lord
Luis your right it is hard to update the matchups but we really should for our own knowledge, but I can deffinilty start getting Atlantic North players to start commenting here on matchups. One of the first I could start is yoshi vs. PT, but please luis stick around I love your presence and info since people listen to you. Not to mention projects you help with always get completed!
CoonTail
Smash Lord
Lol well I deff agree aposl but unfortunatly the MU chart is deff necesary. It will help some of us know what we are looking at before we walk into matchups along with key points of what specifically will give us our biggest issues. Info like that I find to hold a lot of weight.
It could help newbies like me
.BTW,
Out of all the characters I play, only the PT boards critiqued my replays. Thanks PT mains
Aposl
Smash Ace
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It because we want to be the very best!It could help newbies like me
BTW,
Out of all the characters I play, only the PT boards critiqued my replays. Thanks PT mains
There's still usually something to learn from others' viewpoints.
I more or less listen. I can only usually say things based on experience, but I found what I say is usually wrong. I just try and fight to win, I'm not too technical of a fighter. Yeah, it helps to know the match-up some but a person isn't always going to play his or her character the textbook way.