Wreck-It Bowser

[Cassius.]

Merry belated Christmas.

Guess who got BIS Christmas day, and guess who's going to finish it in like, 3 days (today's the third day. I like, stopped playing Brawl just to play BIS but I realized it's not that long of a game so I kinda took a break from it) I couldn't get it on its release date because I was up at school and I always forgot about it on my vacations. It's really creative and good though (SSS is still the boss but not by much, BIS has loads of creativity points)

And I thought about the BGD discussion title but I never understood why it was Gen and I like to break race boundaries...but I get it now. Considering that I'm black and Peach is of [virtual] Caucasian descent (I'm going to assume lolol)...but What about Gen? <_<

btw, BIS is Bowser's Inside story

12/28 edit: I finished the game. wtf. It was easy and short at the same time <_<...whatever. It definitely was really creative and fun lol. Just goes to show ya if you put your mind to something you can finish it in 24 hours of game time (I **** you not, my playing time when I finished the game was 24:00, but I didn't play for 24 hours straight)

 

[B!squick]

Well, this is really annoying. We've only had a 360 for a matter of months and it has already decided that reading discs is for gays. D:< Or, I guess straights if you happen to be gay. Not sure what you'd say if you were bi...

 

[B!squick]

The Escapist is continuing to test the bounds of human rage I see.

 

[Hobobloke]

It seems Mic has messed about with my avatar, what do you think?

EDIT: Looks stylin with mah blue name

 

[MrEh]

Looks like imageshack changed their policy on hotlinking images...

Gotta find a good host for my sig. lol

 

[Liquid Gen]

And I thought about the BGD discussion title but I never understood why it was Gen and I like to break race boundaries...but I get it now. Considering that I'm black and Peach is of [virtual] Caucasian descent (I'm going to assume lolol)...but What about Gen? <_<

thats for me to know

and you to find out








yo

 

[Cassius.]

It's new year's eve son

How bout dem resolutions lolol

 

[Hobobloke]

HAPPY NEW YEARS FROM AUSTRALIA, LiFES GOOD HERE!

 

[B!squick]

Ha, I like the new look LB. And a happy new years to you and everyone else and all that jazz.

As for resolutions, I resolve to come up with a happy medium for our PT match up discussion and move on, as well as to play more Smash. At least the 64 version since we recently DLed it on the virtual console and whatnot.

 

[MrEh]

Went to our regular monthly a couple days ago. There were two tournaments, the regular one and the side event. Only people who have never won money in the past year were able to enter the side event.

Got 4th in the normal tournament. Tied for 1st in the side tournament. (we split)

 

[B!squick]

Good ****, MrEh. Are the vids up? I want a serious one to nominate for that best of thread in Tactical.

 

[Cassius.]

I searched in youtube and there are recent videos that were uploaded yesterday of him., but dude, what the hell is a Gaston? Did you change your name? lol

I haven't watch any of the videos yet though

1 minute edit: Nevermind, I saw the lyrics:

"You can ask any Tom, **** or Stanley
And they'll tell you whose team they prefer to be on
No one's been like Gaston
A king pin like Gaston
No one's got a swell cleft in his chin like Gaston
As a specimen, yes, I'm intimidating!
My what a guy, that Gaston!"

Would it be interesting to tell you I also have a cleft chin like Bowser lul

edit: watched like half of the videos. You're so good and hilarious at the same time. Good **** man D:

and maybe it's just me but I've played a few lucarios before in tournaments and they've always dair'd my shield. I'm just gonna ask the question: do you think it's possible that NAir/USmash/UTilt OOS is fast enough that, after Lucario's first DAir on your shield, any of those given moves can prevent the Lucario from doing other moves/dairs on your shield? Because I know Peace wasn't really doing it but Lucario can DAir high enough that UpB OOS won't hit him. I'm sure I've asked the question before but I've never tested/haven't played any really good or decent Lucario recently to try it out

 

[MrEh]

Good ****, MrEh. Are the vids up? I want a serious one to nominate for that best of thread in Tactical.

Prepare for epic amounts of sandbagging. Both on my part and my opponent's.


Gaston vs Peace
Gaston vs Peace


Gaston vs Roses are Red


Gaston vs DanL


Gaston vs KennyPu
Gaston vs KennyPu


Gaston vs K0rean
Gaston vs K0rean


Gaston vs DarkMusician

1 minute edit: Nevermind, I saw the lyrics:

"You can ask any Tom, **** or Stanley
And they'll tell you whose team they prefer to be on
No one's been like Gaston
A king pin like Gaston
No one's got a swell cleft in his chin like Gaston
As a specimen, yes, I'm intimidating!
My what a guy, that Gaston!"

And no, it's not a name change. I just occasionally enter under a different name to be funny.

 

[Flayl]

Happy New Years Bowsers!

 

[Kofu]

[Gaston:] Who does she think she is? That girl has tangled with
the wrong man! No one says "no" to Gaston!
[LeFou:] Heh heh. Darn right.
[Gaston:] Dismissed! Rejected! Publicly Humiliated! Why, it's
more than I can bear.
[LeFou:] More beer?
[Gaston:] What for? Nothing helps. I'm disgraced.
[LeFou:] Who, you? Never! Gaston, you've got to pull yourself
together.

Gosh it disturbs me to see you, Gaston
Looking so down in the dumps
Every guy here'd love to be you, Gaston
Even when taking your lumps
There's no man in town as admired as you
You're ev'ryone's favorite guy
Ev'ryone's awed and inspired by you
And it's not very hard to see why

No one's slick as Gaston
No one's quick as Gaston
No one's neck's as incredibly thick as Gaston
For there's no man in town half as manly
Perfect, a pure paragon
You can ask any Tom, **** or Stanley
And they'll tell you whose team they prefer to be on

[Chorus:] No one's been like Gaston
A king pin like Gaston
[LeFou:] No one's got a swell cleft in his chin like Gaston
[Gaston:] As a specimen, yes, I'm intimidating
[Chorus:] My what a guy, that Gaston

Give five "hurrahs!"
Give twelve "hip-hips!"
[LeFou:] Gaston is the best
And the rest is all drips

[Chorus:] No one fights like Gaston
Douses lights like Gaston
[Cronie:] In a wrestling match nobody bites like Gaston
[Bimbettes:] For there's no one as burly and brawny
[Gaston:] As you see I've got biceps to spare
[LeFou:] Not a bit of him's scraggly or scrawny
[Gaston] (That's right!)
And ev'ry last inch of me's covered with hair

[Cronies:] No one hits like Gaston
[Townsman:] Matches wits like Gaston
[LeFou:] In a spitting match nobody spits like Gaston
[Gaston:] I'm espcially good at expectorating
(Ptooey!)
[Chorus:] Ten points for Gaston!

[Gaston:] When I was a lad I ate four dozen eggs
Ev'ry morning to help me get large
And now that I'm grown I eat five dozen eggs
So I'm roughly the size of a barge

[Chorus:] No one shoots like Gaston
Makes those beauts like Gaston
[LeFou:] Then goes tromping around wearing boots like Gaston
[Gaston:] I use antlers in all of my decorating
[Chorus:] Say it again
Who's a man among men?
And then say it once more
Who's the hero next door?
Who's a super success?
Don't you know? Can't you guess?
Ask his fans and his five hangers-on
There's just one guy in town who's got all of it down
[LeFou:] And his name's G-A-S- T -
G-A-S-T - E -
G-A-S-T-O - oh!
[Chorus:] Gaston

 

[Liquid Gen]

thats great.

 

[Chuee]

Happy New Year boozers.

 

[6Mizu]

Happy new year....Bow-wow's

 

[rPSIvysaur]

Happy New Years

 

[Cassius.]

happy new year mang b:

 

[Shök]

Happy new year!

 

[Uffe]

Happy New Year's, Bowser boards! C:

 

[Dajayman]

Happy New Years!

Fix your sig PLEASE Mr. Eh.

 

[Bowser King]

Happy New Year everyone

 

[B!squick]

I wish I had more to drink.

 

[adumbrodeus]

[Gaston:] Who does she think she is? That girl has tangled with
the wrong man! No one says "no" to Gaston!
[LeFou:] Heh heh. Darn right.
[Gaston:] Dismissed! Rejected! Publicly Humiliated! Why, it's
more than I can bear.
[LeFou:] More beer?
[Gaston:] What for? Nothing helps. I'm disgraced.
[LeFou:] Who, you? Never! Gaston, you've got to pull yourself
together.

Gosh it disturbs me to see you, Gaston
Looking so down in the dumps
Every guy here'd love to be you, Gaston
Even when taking your lumps
There's no man in town as admired as you
You're ev'ryone's favorite guy
Ev'ryone's awed and inspired by you
And it's not very hard to see why

No one's slick as Gaston
No one's quick as Gaston
No one's neck's as incredibly thick as Gaston
For there's no man in town half as manly
Perfect, a pure paragon
You can ask any Tom, **** or Stanley
And they'll tell you whose team they prefer to be on

[Chorus:] No one's been like Gaston
A king pin like Gaston
[LeFou:] No one's got a swell cleft in his chin like Gaston
[Gaston:] As a specimen, yes, I'm intimidating
[Chorus:] My what a guy, that Gaston

Give five "hurrahs!"
Give twelve "hip-hips!"
[LeFou:] Gaston is the best
And the rest is all drips

[Chorus:] No one fights like Gaston
Douses lights like Gaston
[Cronie:] In a wrestling match nobody bites like Gaston
[Bimbettes:] For there's no one as burly and brawny
[Gaston:] As you see I've got biceps to spare
[LeFou:] Not a bit of him's scraggly or scrawny
[Gaston] (That's right!)
And ev'ry last inch of me's covered with hair

[Cronies:] No one hits like Gaston
[Townsman:] Matches wits like Gaston
[LeFou:] In a spitting match nobody spits like Gaston
[Gaston:] I'm espcially good at expectorating
(Ptooey!)
[Chorus:] Ten points for Gaston!

[Gaston:] When I was a lad I ate four dozen eggs
Ev'ry morning to help me get large
And now that I'm grown I eat five dozen eggs
So I'm roughly the size of a barge

[Chorus:] No one shoots like Gaston
Makes those beauts like Gaston
[LeFou:] Then goes tromping around wearing boots like Gaston
[Gaston:] I use antlers in all of my decorating
[Chorus:] Say it again
Who's a man among men?
And then say it once more
Who's the hero next door?
Who's a super success?
Don't you know? Can't you guess?
Ask his fans and his five hangers-on
There's just one guy in town who's got all of it down
[LeFou:] And his name's G-A-S- T -
G-A-S-T - E -
G-A-S-T-O - oh!
[Chorus:] Gaston

When I first read that, I read "Gaston" as "Ganon".


Yes, I am aware of the source material, I just think confusing Ganon and Gaston is amazing.

 

[Sinz]

What would you say is Snake's best options for edgeguarding Bowser?

 

[B!squick]

FAir.

10fairs

 

[Liquid Gen]

FAir.

10fairs

I think I just played a match on Scrapyard with your roommate.

Then I got bored.

 

[Cassius.]

lol'd.

Also L2Q&A thread son

 

[Sinz]

Sorry, I was thinking that this thread would be appropriate. Seeing as a few boards have opted to drop a Q&A thread and to just combo it with their social thread.

 

[Cassius.]

Well, I guess to answer your question, FAir definitely isn't the best edgeguarding option. If Bowser recovers correctly there's no way in hell you should be getting spiked lol. I'd have to say either BAir or NAir...I'm really not that sure though >_>

(hawt text color imo, bluegreen yeee)

 

[Sinz]

Nice Text color. :D

So, what i have written down is this.

Bowser does not have the best recovery. It is very horizontal with a tiny bit of vertical momentum.

If he is recovering from above he may try to drop down below the ledge and upb to sweet spot it. If you think he is going to do this, you can try to double jump and b reverse a c4 and detonate. You may or may not hit Bowser, but it it is a safe option. Also, another option of Bowser's is to Bowser bomb to the ledge. Just hug the ledge before he gets to it. He will die.

If he is recovering from a middle height, hug the ledge and use a bair to edgeguard him. It will send him further away or it will kill him. If you don't have time to bair, just hug the ledge. You can jump up in time to get onto the ledge to grab him out of his up b.

Would you say that is correct?

 

[B!squick]

I think I just played a match on Scrapyard with your roommate.

Then I got bored.

Oh, that was you? Lol, my bad.

 

[Cassius.]

Ayo Bowser hoes, guess what I just figured out how to do 100% of the time. The edgeklaw thingy Vex made a video on. It's like, actually useless but I figured out how to do it on my own since no one bothered to explain it lol.

Nice Text color. :D

So, what i have written down is this.

Bowser does not have the best recovery. It is very horizontal with a tiny bit of vertical momentum.

If he is recovering from above he may try to drop down below the ledge and upb to sweet spot it. If you think he is going to do this, you can try to double jump and b reverse a c4 and detonate. You may or may not hit Bowser, but it it is a safe option. Also, another option of Bowser's is to Bowser bomb to the ledge. Just hug the ledge before he gets to it. He will die.

If he is recovering from a middle height, hug the ledge and use a bair to edgeguard him. It will send him further away or it will kill him. If you don't have time to bair, just hug the ledge. You can jump up in time to get onto the ledge to grab him out of his up b.

Would you say that is correct?

About the C4 BReversal detonation crap, I'm going to say you don't have a grasp of how fast Bowser falls when using the Bowser Bomb. If you really think you'd be able to catch Bowser in the middle of his Bomb with a C4 explosion, go ahead and try. If I see a Snake planting a C4 in my falling line I obviously would just fall down to the ledge or just go onto the stage instead of bombing lol. Really, your best, easiest and simplest option is just to grab the ledge. No one ever does it but it's extremely simple lol.

I keep telling people if Bowser recovers smartly and correctly he won't be hit by all that crap people try to pull on the ledge, but using Snake's BAir isn't actually that bad of an idea. The last part of that statement isn't necessarily true, because if Bowser lands far enough he can recover from UpB lag before you can grab him. You might be able to DACUS or just Dash Attack or something but the grab won't work all of the time.

Oh, and you know guys...Gen was right about Bowser's airdodge being the most useful for momentum cancelling, lol

I found the chart he was talking about (finally): http://www.geocities.jp/kuso_dwi_lovers/list.html

 

[B!squick]

Oh, and you know guys...Gen was right about Bowser's airdodge being the most useful for momentum cancelling, lol

I found the chart he was talking about (finally): http://www.geocities.jp/kuso_dwi_lovers/list.html

... All that proves is that every single one of Bower's aerials is better for momentum canceling with the exception of DAir.

 

[Flayl]

The problem is that list assumes you have a good momentum cancelling option, like extra jumps or a momentum-reducing move. Bowser can't afford to double-jump immediately, not most of the time anyway. Your best option to reduce momentum is fast-falling an aerial.

 

[MrEh]

Unless I'm reading that chart wrong, it still seems to show that Bowser's Fair is faster then the airdodge.

 

[Liquid Gen]

Unless I'm reading that chart wrong, it still seems to show that Bowser's Fair is faster then the airdodge.

The airdodge comes out a few frames faster than the Fair would, thus the more ending frames are compensated as such.

 

[MrEh]

Startup speed shouldn't matter though, the total frames should. Total frames include the startup.

Fair ends the fastest. If two Bowsers got knocked away at the same time, the Bowser who Fairs will regain control 8 frames before the Bowser who airdodges.

I'm pretty sure it's been proven that airdodging does nothing to your aerial momentum. And since it does nothing, it would seem that the Fair would be superior. Unless the Fair gave you momentum acceleration or something, but that would be silly.