Wofl Q&A/Social

[CsxMark]

For Snake, what do I do about his nades? Like I can either pick them up and throw them or reflect them, but they usually drop right in front of me so I learned not to take the chance. Should I try lazering them before they get to me or...?

And yeah, I found this pretty helpful. My friend from IL who is top 3 there uses Marth and Snake on a pretty pro level so I'll work on these in the few days before E4U.

 

[Ishiey]

@ Shiro: Okay :3

@ Mink: and that's as far as this story needs to go lol

@ Mark: If they know how to properly "strip" grenades, it's a real pain. I used to instant throw them back, but that leaves you very vulnerable to grenade stripping so I don't do that as much during straight-up campfests.

I never tried this out, but Sync (Zync on the boards) suggests SHing your blasters when you camp so that they blow up his grenades as he chucks them. He has a lot of Snake experience, so I'd try that out. It's probably the best option to avoid having grenades stripped right in front of you. But regardless of whether you do a SH or a standing blaster, MAKE ABSOLUTELY SURE you're doing it while he pulls out a grenade and not any later. Being slow and having a grenade blow up in your face is horrible.

Most importantly though, shine. You can either reflect the grenades back at him (which is good until they start stripping grenades properly) or blow them up with the hitbox while remaining safe from damage with the invincibility frames. The latter is the safest, but still, you always need to watch out for stripping grenades :x

 

[-Shiro-]

ISHY IS JJ COMMIN


And mark i useally instant throw then since its quick but if they nade strip rush them or read and punish the nade pick up

 

[CsxMark]

Yeah I get nade stripped a lot that's why I asked... I'm definitely gonna try the SH Blaster though. Learn to time it right and also work on my spacing. Snake seems to be almost as hard as Marth considering his ftilt's disjointed hit box. Any tips on trying to rush snake as far as what moves to use?

I'm really comfortable with Fair's and Bair's but with snake I have to be careful due his hitbox

 

[Ishiey]

JJ isn't coming

When "rushing" Snake, bair imo. Either space SH bairs outside of ftilt punishment range, or FH bair his shield and mixup between another bair or a crossover with something like blaster. Snake doesn't enjoy Wolf dancing around him that much.

 

[MegaRobMan]

I lost my virginity on a mini golf course.

Simpsons did it.

 

[[FBC] Papa Mink]

Wait really?

 

[Seagull Joe]

Did good at tourney today. Got 2nd in dubs out of 31 teams. Teamed with Sparta Kick. Mjg and Kain got 1st in dubs. + is the future. In singles I got 5th out of 74. Lost to Ally and Shugo. Beat Bowyer, Keitaro, and Ori in bracket. Beat Meekspeedy in a MM. Beat DeLux in pools. Fun tourney.

 

[SinisterB]

Good **** Seagull

Wait really?

yup

windmill hole

my first initial thought when you said that too LOL

 

[Ishiey]

Did good at tourney today. Got 2nd in dubs out of 31 teams. Teamed with Sparta Kick. Mjg and Kain got 1st in dubs. + is the future. In singles I got 5th out of 74. Lost to Ally and Shugo. Beat Bowyer, Keitaro, and Ori in bracket. Beat Meekspeedy in a MM. Beat DeLux in pools. Fun tourney.

Good work :D about how often did you go Wolf during doubles? And what was the character MU between you and Keitaro, how'd that go? Congrats on your revenge on Lux from APEX too btw. Good stuff overall. Here's to hoping some vids pop up :3

Also, wait, Bowyer? Like, the Jigglypuff from '08 or whatever? He's alive? @________________@

 

[KuroganeHammer]

Do you guys pummel a lot? Wolf has at 100% the opportunity to refresh at the very least half of his moveset.

 

[MegaRobMan]

I don't make it a priority, but I will now.

 

[KuroganeHammer]

Yeah, I remember someone asking if pummeling refreshes your other moves and I've only gotten around to it now. The way it works is if you pummel with Wolf at max speed and you get 5 pummels in, it won't stale the pummel until after (So the pummels will all do 1%), but those 5 pummels all contribute to the stale move negation queue and the pummel acts as if it had been used those 5 times too (so it'll stale dramatically the next time you use it).

 

[Rizen]

I thought only the first pummel refreshed.
I habitually pummel at least 1 time with most characters if the opponent's over 50%ish (except with Ivy and Zelda who's pummels suck royally, then I wait longer). On wifi this occationally makes me accidentally pummel Snake after grabbing his recovery. *face palm* (Dthrow's not a bad consolation though).

 

[-Shiro-]

Did good at tourney today. Got 2nd in dubs out of 31 teams. Teamed with Sparta Kick. Mjg and Kain got 1st in dubs. + is the future. In singles I got 5th out of 74. Lost to Ally and Shugo. Beat Bowyer, Keitaro, and Ori in bracket. Beat Meekspeedy in a MM. Beat DeLux in pools. Fun tourney.

I don't like that you guys don't use usmash oos >:C

 

[_Kain_]

There's nothing more painfully obnoxious then a Wolf bairing your shield with a metaknight ready to Tornado you as soon as you decide to do something. Wolf is such a doucheeeee!

 

[-Shiro-]

Kain Good stuff at the tourney I you haddddd toronto joe :CCCC

 

[KuroganeHammer]

I thought only the first pummel refreshed.

You thought wrong. ajajaja

 

[Seagull Joe]

Good work :D about how often did you go Wolf during doubles? And what was the character MU between you and Keitaro, how'd that go? Congrats on your revenge on Lux from APEX too btw. Good stuff overall. Here's to hoping some vids pop up :3

Also, wait, Bowyer? Like, the Jigglypuff from '08 or whatever? He's alive? @________________@

I went all in dubs and singles.

Edit: In unrelated news, Arda's biggest fantasy is coming true. There is a hot asian girl pro gamer who plays Soul Caliber. She just got 2nd at CEO and got 2nd at Mlg recently.

 

[Rizen]

You thought wrong. ajajaja

No, I just checked again, "but only the first one in each grab refreshes your moves"
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=218126#
But the guide could be wrong.

Will an experienced wolf confirm if pummel refreshes moves more that once per grab or just once?

 

[Ishiey]

Aero... I trust you, so I'm only going to ask this once.

Are you SURE every hit will refresh?

Because before, I recall people saying that it would only refresh if you didn't hit them with the next pummel while they were in hitstun, meaning I'd need to pummel slower, which, screw that lol.

I went all in dubs and singles.

Edit: In unrelated news, Arda's biggest fantasy is coming true. There is a hot asian girl pro gamer who plays Soul Caliber. She just got 2nd at CEO and got 2nd at Mlg recently.

Nice, who did Keitaro go against you and how'd those games go?

Also.

:3

 

[Seagull Joe]

Aero... I trust you, so I'm only going to ask this once.

Are you SURE every hit will refresh?

Because before, I recall people saying that it would only refresh if you didn't hit them with the next pummel while they were in hitstun, meaning I'd need to pummel slower, which, screw that lol.



Nice, who did Keitaro go against you and how'd those games go?

Also.

:3

I 2-0'd him. He went both games. R1 was on Castle Siege. I striked to there cause I felt it'd be good against . It ended up being last hit, last stock and I did dashing shield and stood there. Then he Usmash'd my shield and I won with Dsmash. 2nd game was a 2 stock on Smashville.

He played me the night prior with and it did not end well for him lol. Nor did me going vs his . So when he cp'd me to sv in tourney, I just stayed .

 

[KRDsonic]

I got bored and recorded myself singing along with a couple songs and uploaded them to youtube on a different account. I figured I'd post them here cause why not. (Keep in mind I'm not a singer xD).

www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzxosDwrV08
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZesIrVLK55E

 

[KuroganeHammer]

No, I just checked again, "but only the first one in each grab refreshes your moves"
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=218126#
But the guide could be wrong.

Will an experienced wolf confirm if pummel refreshes moves more that once per grab or just once?

:researcher:

Aero... I trust you, so I'm only going to ask this once.

Are you SURE every hit will refresh?

Because before, I recall people saying that it would only refresh if you didn't hit them with the next pummel while they were in hitstun, meaning I'd need to pummel slower, which, screw that lol.

Almost 100% certain. Was told this by an experienced lab member, one with more experience than even myself, so I do trust what he says.

I can test it if you want me to though.

 

[tekkie]

this weekend shiro v ish grand finals, wolf v

Spoiler

pokemon trainer

 

[Ishiey]

:researcher:

Almost 100% certain. Was told this by an experienced lab member, one with more experience than even myself, so I do trust what he says.

I can test it if you want me to though.

You trust them and I trust you, so I think we're good here

Congrats btw :3

this weekend shiro v ish grand finals, wolf v

Spoiler

pokemon trainer

Wait, Shiro has a PT?

My PT is bad now anyways, if only Ivysaur were a stand-alone character :< despite not having a good TV to play on I think I'll be in decent enough shape for the tournament though, JJ practice is silly but helpful

 

[Seagull Joe]

Kayane (Girl I was referring to Ish earlier aka the godly girl Soul caliber player):

 

[Rizen]

I can't complain; Wolf has the best pummel in the game.
(/figure of speech, a person can ALWAYS complain)

I almost got to play doubles vs Kain but got DCed . PT wifi icon (if that was the Kain from here). IDK the PT/Wolf MU despite playing both of them. Learning all these characters means learning a freaking TON of MUs.

_____________
I have got to find the river...

 

[Zync]

Wolf just beats PT, I havent played a good one though =/

 

[Seagull Joe]

I forgot to mention to you guys, I saw/met/talked with Omniswell this weekend at the tourney. He's funny lol.

He just came to chill. Not to play.

 

[BPx]

i think i'm going to ditto you at your nebraska tourney rob, be ready

 

[MegaRobMan]

Nah mah, I main now.

But now I know I might actually have to play brawl.

Is MJ coming, like, am I going to be able to get any sleep the next 2 weeks?

 

[Rizen]

ROB's Wolf never really worked but his DDD's legit. 'Better practice...

 

[-Shiro-]

Wait, Shiro has a PT?

MM My PT vs your Anything

 

[Rizen]

I picked up PT because he was 1 of my 3 worst characters, with Lucario and Sonic. It's a good learning experience. Skill-wise, my Ganon's better. Some characters feel really strange to play; slow falling floaties are my weak characters. Hence my lucario sucking (although I can spam Fsmash, Auraspheres and roll).
When PT is on stages like RC sometimes I confuse the sponge trainer's platform with stage platforms, lol. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=4R_7CU1NqNE#t=49s

 

[BPx]

Averil is going to impulse rob,but we might have 2 cars going anyway. If you're going d3 I get to try out my new main then ;o

 

[JCav]

Hmm so I'm in the process of testing the theory if pummel refreshes moves or not, so far I'm finding that it does not. I think I have to test more or maybe I'm missing something?

 

[MegaRobMan]

2 CARS, DAMN.

Hey, someone, tell me how to play wolf, I'm not any good

Also, I already know your "new/old" main.

But, good to know 2 cars are coming, I'll change the doubles stage list since we might actually have legit doubles instead of just a joke.

Summit should be legal for dubbs, right?

 

[Espy Rose]

How fast are you pummeling?

 

[Luminoth64]

2 CARS, DAMN.

Hey, someone, tell me how to play wolf, I'm not any good

If you're jumpin' n shootin', I don't think you need to change anything.