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Only if someone stops giving idiocy priority.
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Only if someone stops giving idiocy priority.
Lemon Drop
Smash Lord
WTF is this post?
Mamush
Smash Cadet
Umm a joke?
Black/Light
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This is just plain dumb. . . .
The people who are saying "these updates are just garbage" and what not are moronic for just bluntly brashing off 3 weeks of updates because they don't show the release date or w/e.
The people who keep comparing SSBB too Halo are being moronic because they are two completely different games being many by 2 completely different divs. Anyone with any Nintendo history in them knows that Nintendo doesn't try to hype the mess out of their games with such things like those being given with halo.
The people who complain about the "how to play" updates are being selfish *^%$ seeing as Sakurai (on the front page) says that thats for people who don't know WTH smash is.
And to all the people who are complaining about the lack of heavy news and are going on about how we knew this and that already or how they have the right to complain or express their opinion than to them I say this. I have the right to express my opinion as well and that opinion of mean is that you should all STF^ and just be happy (or atleast content) with w/e you get because complaining aint going to change anything and, OMGZ, tommorow is another update.
I mean, think logically for a min. The main reason alot of us want big news right now is because we have gone a half a friggin year with Sakurai not talking to us and keeping us i the dark so that we go into huge battles about nothing. Now, would I prefer to be back in the times where all we had where a hand full of interviews and a full pics to go by for news compared to the 4 + screen shots we get per-day and small post that, lil by lil, tell use whats going on in the game? No.
Do I like every update? No.
Do I complain about it and whin about how we already knew w/e or how w/e is lame? No, because Sakurai is doing something that I have never seen before. He is taking out the time to stage screen shots (they don't just pick random characters and places to show us. . ) with what he feels is best for us to know and give us info on a daily basis about a game that aint out yet. I have YET to see a div be that commited to the fans and game they are working on.
Do I think every one has to like it? No.
Do I think you all have the right to complain? Yeah, you have the "right" to complain. . . don't mean what your complaining about holds any ground.
Do I have the right to express my opinion on yall complains? Yeah.
. . .And again, MY opinion is that you complainers should all STF^ and just be happy (or atleast content) with w/e you get because complaining aint going to change anything and Sakurai is doing us a great service with any amount of info he gives us seeing as he aint got to do jack but make the game Nintendo is paying him for.
The people who are saying "these updates are just garbage" and what not are moronic for just bluntly brashing off 3 weeks of updates because they don't show the release date or w/e.
The people who keep comparing SSBB too Halo are being moronic because they are two completely different games being many by 2 completely different divs. Anyone with any Nintendo history in them knows that Nintendo doesn't try to hype the mess out of their games with such things like those being given with halo.
The people who complain about the "how to play" updates are being selfish *^%$ seeing as Sakurai (on the front page) says that thats for people who don't know WTH smash is.
And to all the people who are complaining about the lack of heavy news and are going on about how we knew this and that already or how they have the right to complain or express their opinion than to them I say this. I have the right to express my opinion as well and that opinion of mean is that you should all STF^ and just be happy (or atleast content) with w/e you get because complaining aint going to change anything and, OMGZ, tommorow is another update.
I mean, think logically for a min. The main reason alot of us want big news right now is because we have gone a half a friggin year with Sakurai not talking to us and keeping us i the dark so that we go into huge battles about nothing. Now, would I prefer to be back in the times where all we had where a hand full of interviews and a full pics to go by for news compared to the 4 + screen shots we get per-day and small post that, lil by lil, tell use whats going on in the game? No.
Do I like every update? No.
Do I complain about it and whin about how we already knew w/e or how w/e is lame? No, because Sakurai is doing something that I have never seen before. He is taking out the time to stage screen shots (they don't just pick random characters and places to show us. . ) with what he feels is best for us to know and give us info on a daily basis about a game that aint out yet. I have YET to see a div be that commited to the fans and game they are working on.
Do I think every one has to like it? No.
Do I think you all have the right to complain? Yeah, you have the "right" to complain. . . don't mean what your complaining about holds any ground.
Do I have the right to express my opinion on yall complains? Yeah.
. . .And again, MY opinion is that you complainers should all STF^ and just be happy (or atleast content) with w/e you get because complaining aint going to change anything and Sakurai is doing us a great service with any amount of info he gives us seeing as he aint got to do jack but make the game Nintendo is paying him for.
lanky_gunner
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people, just live with it and get on with your lives. look forward to tomorrow and the next day as more updates arrive. your time will come. in the mean time, just shut up and don't complain
Katy Parry
The Only Zelda in Indiana
true dat, yo.
NintendoWarrior
Smash Lord
For the record I want everyone to know while I don't like all the updates that I hold no personal ill will to any of you. I hope to play you guys online (has this been confirmed?) and look forward to sharing tips and strategies. I enjoy Smash Bros as much as you guys do and I don't want anyone here to think I dislike like them or anything.
Red Exodus
Smash Master
This is where this thread is gonna turn to :
A) a flame war
B) a completely peaceful thread
C) a thread split in 2 by people who either like or hate an update.
I've seen people complain about, imo, good updates, such as the control one. But when someone complains with no grounds and just keep saying 'X sucks, Y is lame, is Sonic in or what?' I understand when people get annoyed.
As long as people don't jump down my throat when I don't like an update, everything will be fine and dandy.
But let me ask you a question:
When you say ' Hey this food tastes awful', 'I don't like this', 'I can't eat anymore' and someone says 'Hey, children in Africa would love to have this food, be grateful', how do you feel?
Now imagine that, but only everyday throughout the [5 day] week. Now that doesn't happen to me, because unlike some people, I actually like some of the updates once in a while. But most are you are the guys saying 'well, children in Africa...' and it's annoying to some of us. We KNOW we are lucky to have these updates everyday, but at least allow us to be disappointed once in a while [when it arises].
That's all, I don't think I said anything for anyone to go nuts on me for, I'm not up for dealing with more people like what's his face I argued with earlier.
A) a flame war
B) a completely peaceful thread
C) a thread split in 2 by people who either like or hate an update.
I've seen people complain about, imo, good updates, such as the control one. But when someone complains with no grounds and just keep saying 'X sucks, Y is lame, is Sonic in or what?' I understand when people get annoyed.
As long as people don't jump down my throat when I don't like an update, everything will be fine and dandy.
But let me ask you a question:
When you say ' Hey this food tastes awful', 'I don't like this', 'I can't eat anymore' and someone says 'Hey, children in Africa would love to have this food, be grateful', how do you feel?
Now imagine that, but only everyday throughout the [5 day] week. Now that doesn't happen to me, because unlike some people, I actually like some of the updates once in a while. But most are you are the guys saying 'well, children in Africa...' and it's annoying to some of us. We KNOW we are lucky to have these updates everyday, but at least allow us to be disappointed once in a while [when it arises].
That's all, I don't think I said anything for anyone to go nuts on me for, I'm not up for dealing with more people like what's his face I argued with earlier.
Green Shell
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Now there's the character that you look for in a person.
I agree, and second.
EDIT:
I also agree with this. Though it is completely annoying to see a person hate every single update, it's one's opinion. We can't change that, no matter how hard we flame 'em.
jdironfist
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Aside
None of this is personally directed at you, Red Exodus, you were just one of the first people to start justifying complaining about the site rather than just complaining about it. I think that people may have gotten the wrong impression from my last post. Naturally, if you're going to complain, gripe and be unhappy about information, that's mostly your problem. I just have a problem when people bring their ungratefulness here.
Let me make my point perfectly clear. I don't think that anyone is justified in getting free information about Brawl (that, remember, Sakurai doesn't have to give us), then coming and saying, "I didn't get what I wanted, and that was a crap update." My initial response (not the long one, the one before that) was to NintendoWarrior, who had said that EVERY update was garbage. I think that my long response was written also with that attitude in mind. So while I agree that some updates are better than others, the attitude that all of the updates thus far are garbage is an ungrateful attitude to have, and (like I said) while I can't change anyone's attitude, if you're going to bring it to these forums, I can confront you about it.
As you pointed out in your response, Red Exodus, that attitude doesn't necessarily describe you. Others have that attitude, and that, by and large, is what I'm attacking.
What makes my previous post moronic?
This isn't my opinion. This is the definition of "ungrateful" (unappreciative, not displaying gratitude). You can check my reference here.
I also don't expect everyone to think every update is as good as another. I think that the Final Smash update was one of (if not) the best, since it showed something completely exclusive to Brawl, and the Final Smash is something that will be (at least for a while, before items get turned off in tournament play) crucial to the game. If you contrast that with the other updates, yeah, we didn't get as much in some of the other updates. But we got something new, didn't we?
Since this isn't completely relevant to the topic, if you still want to talk about this, why don't we talk over PM? I don't think everyone is really that interested in this argument.
*EDIT* Okay, maybe they are. Still, I'm not sure if this is the place for the conversation, since it's very hard to convey exactly what you want to say with just text. PM is a bit more personal, and is much less likely to become a flame war.
None of this is personally directed at you, Red Exodus, you were just one of the first people to start justifying complaining about the site rather than just complaining about it. I think that people may have gotten the wrong impression from my last post. Naturally, if you're going to complain, gripe and be unhappy about information, that's mostly your problem. I just have a problem when people bring their ungratefulness here.
Let me make my point perfectly clear. I don't think that anyone is justified in getting free information about Brawl (that, remember, Sakurai doesn't have to give us), then coming and saying, "I didn't get what I wanted, and that was a crap update." My initial response (not the long one, the one before that) was to NintendoWarrior, who had said that EVERY update was garbage. I think that my long response was written also with that attitude in mind. So while I agree that some updates are better than others, the attitude that all of the updates thus far are garbage is an ungrateful attitude to have, and (like I said) while I can't change anyone's attitude, if you're going to bring it to these forums, I can confront you about it.
As you pointed out in your response, Red Exodus, that attitude doesn't necessarily describe you. Others have that attitude, and that, by and large, is what I'm attacking.
Essentially, what I'm saying is that if you are checking the site, then complaining, it's better for everyone if you don't check the site. You aren't disappointed, people don't have to hear you gripe, and so on and so forth. If you are taking advantage of a resource that Sakurai doesn't have to give us, then be thankful that we're getting information instead of being disappointed that you didn't get the information you wanted.
I'm sorry that the first sentence sounded arrogant. Like I said above, what I was trying to convey was that it's a waste of your time and ours to check the site and complain about it.
Wait, you were only disappointed with one update? That's not what you said. You said (emphasis mine), "I was disappointed with many-a-update and everytime some easily pleased guy comes up with some smart-*** post about how we should be overly satisfied." You are attacking something that was never said.
You didn't specify which updates you were unhappy with. I figured you were disappointed with the "How to Recover" update, since most people were, and since you said that you were disappointed with "many-a-update," I figured I'd give another example. If you were satisfied with the moving while shooting update, cool. I'm sorry that I assumed falsely.
That's not at all what I was saying, and you know it. I said that the "How to Recover" update showed us that Mario has a massive recovery. Of course Mario will have a recovery move. My point was that his recovery seems much better than in Melee. Do you disagree with that analysis? This update was good for anyone checking the site, since it showed those new to Smash how to recover, while also showing those who have played Melee that Mario has a heavily improved recovery. So the "How to Recover" update gave us new information that will impact the way the game is played, and is therefore not crap.
I am not engaging in this argument simply because you are "being different." I am arguing because you don't seem to appreciate updates that will drastically change the way we play the game.
Let me expand on what I said a bit. I called your opinion stupid, then backed up my opinion logically. You have done the former, but have yet to accomplish the latter.
What does it matter that I don't know you that much? I know (from what you have said) that you have been disappointed in multiple daily updates, and I've decided to call you out on it.
What makes my previous post moronic?
You said:
So there were some daily updates that you were unhappy with. Therefore, you are not completely happy with all the daily updates. That was the intent of what I was saying—sorry if it didn't come across that way.
I was making an analogy. Essentially, Sakurai is giving us information that he doesn't have to give us, and on some days he gives us more information than others. In a similar fashion, let's say someone you see every day (not necessarily your mom) just decides, without you even asking, to give you some cash every time you see him. Now, he is not required to give you that money, so to gripe at him if he decides to start giving you less money is being ungrateful. He could have just stopped giving you money entirely, but he didn't. In the same way, Sakurai is under no obligation to give us daily updates, but he does.
This isn't my opinion. This is the definition of "ungrateful" (unappreciative, not displaying gratitude). You can check my reference here.
I don't put anyone on my ignore list since everyone can potentially say something worth listening to. And maybe whining isn't the right word, but I would definitely say that you are being ungrateful if you are complaining about an update.
I also don't expect everyone to think every update is as good as another. I think that the Final Smash update was one of (if not) the best, since it showed something completely exclusive to Brawl, and the Final Smash is something that will be (at least for a while, before items get turned off in tournament play) crucial to the game. If you contrast that with the other updates, yeah, we didn't get as much in some of the other updates. But we got something new, didn't we?
Here's an idea: find something good about the update. There are a couple updates which, at face value, have little to offer. But instead of thinking, "Crap, that was a waste of an update," why not find something new/modified in the update? Then everybody wins.
Since this isn't completely relevant to the topic, if you still want to talk about this, why don't we talk over PM? I don't think everyone is really that interested in this argument.
*EDIT* Okay, maybe they are. Still, I'm not sure if this is the place for the conversation, since it's very hard to convey exactly what you want to say with just text. PM is a bit more personal, and is much less likely to become a flame war.
Kamaji
Smash Ace
wow... spending so much time debating weather or not the updates are cool... and weather or not its cool to think that theyre cool or not...
SSoH
Smash Journeyman
Takes 10 minutes to think of a post and type it all out if you're good at typing, max usually. I highly doubt they would have cured any morbid diseases in that time frame. If they find it fun to debate their opinion, why should it matter "how long" it took to make that post?
Endless Nightmares
Smash Master
So...I'm gonna try not going to smashbros.com til friday. That way it will be chock full of updates and I won't have anything to complain about.
Think I can do it?
There's an update in 13 minutes...I just can't stand it! lol
Think I can do it?
There's an update in 13 minutes...I just can't stand it! lol
Toasty!
Smash Journeyman
The update needs to hurry. >:3
WhatIsPie?
Smash Apprentice
No update yet. Looks like it might be a big one.
Toasty!
Smash Journeyman
I mean really, would it kill Sakurai to update a little earlier? It's 4 in Japan, I'm sure he could make it at 3. -_-
i sure hope so
WhatIsPie?
Smash Apprentice
Does anyone have the exact time of the Pokeball update? I think this one is going to be around there again.
Toasty!
Smash Journeyman
The Pokeball was until like 2:20. (I'm Central)
Sucked for me, it updated like a minute after I slept. -_-
Sucked for me, it updated like a minute after I slept. -_-
WhatIsPie?
Smash Apprentice
So that's like 5 minutes?
Devastlian
Smash Lord
The Pokeball update was at 1AM PST which is in 45 minutes.
Toasty!
Smash Journeyman
I need it to be an item for points.
But I want it to be SNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE!
But I want it to be SNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE!
For points?
Toasty!
Smash Journeyman
In that ******** contest thread thingy.
EDIT: Fox? Darnit! lmao
Pwnage.
EDIT: Fox? Darnit! lmao
Pwnage.
jdironfist
Smash Cadet
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He still has the illusion (>B).
jdironfist
Smash Cadet
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Is the second screenshot his dash attack? He isn't kicking like he did in Melee. In fact, it looks like a Captain Falcon/Samus dash attack.
*EDIT* Never mind, that's the forward throw.
*EDIT* Never mind, that's the forward throw.
Toasty!
Smash Journeyman
I liked the Illusion better when it was blue. Hopefully it is the lighting.
cless-mint
Smash Journeyman
Yup, Fox. Fox's up B move is confirmed as shown in the image with the fire. Also his Right B is confirmed as ya'll can see. BTW, I have an idea on the "always has his blaster out" thing that Sakurai said. What I think is that he can lose it completely during battle. Like maybe if he was hit hard enough or something like that. Then he'd have another attack. Just a thought though.
EDIT: post was late lolz!
EDIT: post was late lolz!
Toasty!
Smash Journeyman
It doesn't look like the FireFox. Have you seen Foxs stage? It speeds toward a planet, and gets "fiery" when it enters that planets atmosphere. That could be it.
Sakurai could've changed his mind about the blaster. In some early screenshots on the site, Fox has his blaster out, and now he doesn't.
Sakurai could've changed his mind about the blaster. In some early screenshots on the site, Fox has his blaster out, and now he doesn't.
hmm...maybe he drops it and other players can get...idk
jdironfist
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Yeah, that's what I was thinking, but his blaster isn't in its holster in the second picture either.
Toasty!
Smash Journeyman
The blaster isn't in its hoster in any pics.
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