What if MLG picked up Melee again?

[Wretched]

Update: Zodiac says for everyone to stop talking about how they are a business. unique theories guys.
UNIQUE THEORIES

I'm sure there are bits and pieces of this theory everywhere, but I want to congregate everyone's theories into one thread.
I was just remembering when MLG picked up Melee in the mid-2000's and as we can all tell, the community hasn't halted but everyone and their mother doesn't play this game anymore.
I think if MLG picked the game up again it would attract huge attention from not only us, but from our next generation of kids who we hope will pursue smash. Imagine if MLG picked up competetive Donkey Kong (but not to such an extreme). Melee, being an old game now, would attract major attention, right? It wouldn't be just another next-gen shooter which everyone HAS to play because its new. It would be something old that people would pursue because an old game being played competetively has to have some viability, right?
What do you guys think?
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EDIT: I was afraid to post this in MLG jurisdiction.

 

[INSANE CARZY GUY]

you go die. read an old thread on why they won't. they aren't willing to buy all the GCs and they don't understand how the melee group basically brings in like 90% of the set ups if not more and even does the recording a lot of times. they don't have to put in much money.

 

[Wretched]

You told me to die and then... Reinforced my point but told me they aren't going to because of setups?
What are you saying? They could just use wiis, which they clearly have enough for brawl, and melee sets don't take as long, so they'd have more readily available set ups.

 

[-ShadowPhoenix-]

melee discs arent exactly easy to find nowadays...
its safe to say that mlg will never pick up melee again...
its not just the setups issue...
mlg promotes new games...
games that are popular...
even if theyre horrible xD

 

[INSANE CARZY GUY]

hey let me give you some advice. Logic doesn't work with people

 

[DaMaggot]

Can u post a link about their view about melee?
I rly wanna read it

 

[-ShadowPhoenix-]

pretty sure theres a thread about it somewhere...
but ill let someone else find it...

 

[Shoopman]

Crappy analogy time

Ok let's say that for some reason, a computer company decided to start selling old school super primitive computers with a few kb of RAM and hard drive space on the grounds that they were old and charming, and that people would buy them for nostalgic value or w/e. Are you beginning to see the problem? Why in god's name would they make special effort to sell something that is outdated when they could just as well push something new and SELL MORE of it? Of course maybe a few super nerdy guys actually would buy it, but that's not nearly enough to keep it on the shelves for more than a week. Those super nerdy guys are Melee players, and as much as it pains me to say it, there's not a whole bunch of them. It just doesn't make sense from a business perspective and MLG is a business that needs to make money. Sadly, including Melee in the circuit just isn't going to accomplish that goal.

 

[-ShadowPhoenix-]

Crappy analogy time

Ok let's say that for some reason, a computer company decided to start selling old school super primitive computers with a few kb of RAM and hard drive space on the grounds that they were old and charming, and that people would buy them for nostalgic value or w/e. Are you beginning to see the problem? Why in god's name would they make special effort to sell something that is outdated when they could just as well push something new and SELL MORE of it? Of course maybe a few super nerdy guys actually would buy it, but that's not nearly enough to keep it on the shelves for more than a week. Those super nerdy guys are Melee players, and as much as it pains me to say it, there's not a whole bunch of them. It just doesn't make sense from a business perspective and MLG is a business that needs to make money. Sadly, including Melee in the circuit just isn't going to accomplish that goal.

thats a perfect way to put it...
mlg isnt interested in keeping a good game alive. its purpose is to make money...
even if it means by promoting an inferior game.

 

[Wretched]

melee discs arent exactly easy to find nowadays...
its safe to say that mlg will never pick up melee again...
its not just the setups issue...
mlg promotes new games...
games that are popular...
even if theyre horrible xD

Which is why I said they pick up the new-gen shooters.

hey let me give you some advice. Logic doesn't work with people

I don't get that logic

Guys, this is a theory, I'm not saying they can/will/should pick it up. We're just theorizing on the scene if they did pick it up again.

 

[Zodiac]

I do recall that mlg wanted to pick up melee again but nintendo wouldnt let them for whatever reason.

 

[Life]

Didn't Ken say he'd come back if MLG picked up Smash?... obviously Brawl didn't do the trick, maybe it was Melee specifically...

Just a thought.

 

[King~]

just wanna say the TVs lag

and we have been unable to convince them to switch to CRTs, have fun

 

[Pikaville]

All would be right again if they did.

Competitive brawl is incredibly boring to watch in comparison.

 

[Brookman]

It's all business. Melee is 10 years old. From a profit seeking perspective melee is like a 40 year old boxer.


What is potential is an updated game driven by melee's engine. That could make a game.

 

[Geist]

I'd rather see melee stay at evo tbh.
MLG is more about trending new games.

 

[Kason Birdman]

I agree with blowtoes.
**** mlg.
evo all the way.

 

[Wretched]

But we can have our cake and eat it too
evo, MLG
I really haven't gotten the answer that I want, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN.
you guys are just telling me why it won't or hasn't.
I want the aftermath of this occurance

 

[Kason Birdman]

rofl. yeah smashboards is bad at actually addressing the main purpose of a thread.
often does everybody go off-topic or just completely misinterpret the point of the thread.

 

[Wretched]

MBR tier list

heysup guys icg says silly things

I know what you mean--
wait, evo still does melee?

 

[Kason Birdman]

evo still does melee?

nope


...erm... correct me if I'm wrong?

 

[Geist]

But we can have our cake and eat it too
evo, MLG
I really haven't gotten the answer that I want, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN.
you guys are just telling me why it won't or hasn't.
I want the aftermath of this occurance

It's hard to say for sure.
I mean, the most obvious thing would be to assume that the tourney scene would attract more attention.
I don't think much would happen past more people playing. I doubt anything monumental would happen, like everyone spontaneously dropping Brawl in favor of Melee.
Maybe Melee's competitive community would feel a little more secure, and not like it's slowly working its way to its death.

And no, EVO did melee like once or something. I don't really know, I just know that they don't do it now.

 

[G.L.]

i wish it would happen but it wont. but long after MLG drops brawl, melee will still be here i bet. and even without MLG we still have decent sized locals ( atleast where i live in michigan, and the community here is pretty small) and we have huge tournies where out of country people even come.

but if it DID happen, which is what you asked, MLG would probably be impressed about how big it is and also how efficient everyone is. it would pretty much be a community run tourney, because the melee players would bring all their own setups and stuff. and mango might play hard again for a while haha

 

[Rubyiris]

what-if questions are stupid.

Gtfo with this thread.

 

[Wretched]

ruby
I need to personally apologize to you for ruining your smashboards experience by posting a thread with a hypothetical question
If it will make your experience better, I guess we could just spam the MBR tier list thread about what it would be like if the MBR wasn't silly all day
but thats hypothetical too
I guess smashboards just isn't for you
But much love bro/sis

 

[Nø Ca$h]

you go die. read an old thread on why they won't. they aren't willing to buy all the GCs and they don't understand how the melee group basically brings in like 90% of the set ups if not more and even does the recording a lot of times. they don't have to put in much money.

wow you didnt call them melee holders this time.

 

[mastermoo420]

Crappy analogy time

Ok let's say that for some reason, a computer company decided to start selling old school super primitive computers with a few kb of RAM and hard drive space on the grounds that they were old and charming, and that people would buy them for nostalgic value or w/e. Are you beginning to see the problem? Why in god's name would they make special effort to sell something that is outdated when they could just as well push something new and SELL MORE of it? Of course maybe a few super nerdy guys actually would buy it, but that's not nearly enough to keep it on the shelves for more than a week. Those super nerdy guys are Melee players, and as much as it pains me to say it, there's not a whole bunch of them. It just doesn't make sense from a business perspective and MLG is a business that needs to make money. Sadly, including Melee in the circuit just isn't going to accomplish that goal.

Yeah, this is a crappy analogy.

A proper analogy would be an older computer that functions better than a newer computer, but the newer computer only gets sold more often because the general public is uninformed and prefers things that are generally "newer" or are brand names.

That's the biased version. If you want an unbiased version using computers (or something related to computers) as an example, it'd be like how so many people switched to Vista when they had the perfectly fine Windows XP. Or how the general public hates Linux because it's "different." Of course, that's good enough if they at least know that Windows isn't the only existing OS.

 

[Archangel]

It's a nice dream. I would shed man tears if it ever happened but it will not happen.

MLG would rather pick-up games with things like this vvvvv

 

[P.C. Jona]

It's all business. Melee is 10 years old. From a profit seeking perspective melee is like a 40 year old boxer.


What is potential is an updated game driven by melee's engine. That could make a game.

look up james toney and randy couture

when your done look up american muscle cars from 1969

i can go on but i think you get it

just because something is old doesnt mean its bad, or has lost its value

MLG is just stupid

and so are people that think melee cant and wont bring in $$$$

 

[Lovage]

i'd much rather be picked up by EVO

 

[Эикельманн [РУС]]

I've been playing FPS games competitively for over 9 years now. I've seen the professional gaming industry at it's best, worst, and so on. Not this kiddy MLG stuff; I'm talking CPL, WCG, CAL, ESWC, ESL, etc.

And I can tell you why it won't be in, but that would be pointless because everyone knows why. It's money. MLG is a business, and a legitimate one. They need to KNOW they can make good money and satisfy the people at the same time. If they can't do both, they won't risk it.

You want it to happen? You people, you smashers -- no, you Melee players. You want it? Well, you would need numbers.

Strong, consistent numbers. Numbers stronger and more consistent than Brawl. You would need rock solid evidence that MLG could pick up a game like Melee again and have it be successful. And you would need to present it correctly, and in mature fashion. Brawl bashing doesn't look attractive at all.

One 350+ tournament isn't enough. And a few 200+ tournaments here and there isn't enough either. You guys would have to compare against Brawl. Brawl is the most popular fighting game out there (judging from statistics, and raw numbers). And do some research on this stuff before you say I'm wrong. I love melee, and dislike Brawl, but I know how to accept the truth.

It won't happen because the Melee community can't make it happen. Not anymore.

And I really think these threads are the most pointless type of thread that could be posted. It's like asking for moderating privileges; the more you ask, the less of a chance you'll have to get it.

 

[Ace55]

ruby
I need to personally apologize to you for ruining your smashboards experience by posting a thread with a hypothetical question
If it will make your experience better, I guess we could just spam the MBR tier list thread about what it would be like if the MBR wasn't silly all day
but thats hypothetical too
I guess smashboards just isn't for you
But much love bro/sis

Lol, I like this guy (girl?)

Anyway if MLG picked up melee more people would get exposed to it, more people would start playing it (again). Ken would likely return, Mew2king would/could focus more on melee and Mango most likely wouldn't be playing mario.

******* mlg

 

[Wretched]

guuuy of course.
I thought ken quit during survivor
That was silly
He couldn't play it on the island, so I thought he'd be more excited to play than before.
ALSO, eikel, WCG is full of crap.

 

[Zodiac]

If mlg picked up melee again it would have mediocer attendance the first two events and then it would start to pick up to where it was by the third event. If they advertised it properly the first event would be awesome.

 

[Эикельманн [РУС]]

ALSO, eikel, WCG is full of crap.

Have you participated in a WCG tournament before?

If not, you're missing out.

Have you ever even attended a world final?

WCG is easily the most respected company in the industry, and the most successful. WCG is definitely not "full of crap".

MLG only just recent picked up on the fact that console games aren't enough, and that PC gaming is always going to be the biggest. They're slow, and inefficient.

And in response to the other part of your post; no. Ken didn't quit "during" survivor. In fact, on the contrary. Survivor was recorded months previously to it's air on TV, like every other reality TV show. When survivor finished, Ken went and attended Evo 2008, and placed 2nd in Brawl.

After that, he quit because he has no interest in the game anymore. He only played at the end of the season during 06 because he was on a contract. Just watch his matches at the National Final in 06 vs KDJ. He went falcon for ****'s sake against Sheik. He gave up on smash well over 4 years ago. Smash was means to an end, and his life is more important.

 

[Zodiac]

Also, will the op please update the op and tell everyone to respond with what we hear ALL THE TIME. " Mlg is a business blah blah blah" And give a unique answer?

 

[Wretched]

Okay, I will update it if you really want me to.