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First off, the LHC won't kill us. The chances, time of existence, and size of the black hole appearing would be absolutely minuscule.Why do we want to build/ live on the moon anyway?
Living on the moon is as ridiculous as trying to collide two atoms to create a black hol- oh wait.
You're too slow
The LHC was not made to try to create black hole, and chances of them being a by product are... very poor.Why do we want to build/ live on the moon anyway?
Living on the moon is as ridiculous as trying to collide two atoms to create a black hol- oh wait
I'm sorry, but this is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever read. Do you have any proof to back up any of these 'facts'?
I'm pretty sure the general consensus is that dinosaur's died out due to changes in the environment, in part affected by a huge (10 km wide) meteorite hitting Mexico. Not because they couldn't colonise space.
You will eventually die too. Wouldn't you want to postpone it?
I may not have learned too much in my year as an astronomy pre-major, but I at least know how big a deal this is lolGf2tw getting off.
You know, people probably thought this same way about actually launching to space around the early 50's or 40's.
No but really, think of it like this.
Not really, I've accepted the fact that I'm going to die at some point in my life, and no amount of resisting it or struggling against it will change that fact.
Do you mean that as in "Humans will be extinct within a century" or "we won't be on Earth, we'll be on another planet, within a century"? I'm guessing it's the former, why do you think that?
From: http://www.nasa.gov/about/highlights/what_does_nasa_do.html
Vids pls or it didn't happen.
Really? Are you SO sure? Maybe we progress to a point we evolve into pure-energy form, which has no means of "dying out" (The first law of thermodynamics).
Yes, it is true that currently if we were to use any of our shuttles for the journey to the moon, it'd basically not even work, lol. This is why GW Bush actually started a new initiative (yep, he actually did something right!)
Why the nihilist attitude? Maybe within your lifetime we make some crazy breakthrough in health sciences that allows humans to live for hundreds of years, and in perfect physical form. Don't be so pessimistic! This discovery on the Moon may not impress YOU, but people like you... nothing impresses you anyway.
'To pioneer the future in space exploration, scientific discovery and aeronautics research' does not mean 'our mission is to colonise other planets, because Earth cannot sustain us forever and we have to leave and spread out or die'.
I never actually said that general consensus equals fact. I just said that "I'm pretty sure the general consensus is ...". Saying "I think most people believe that ..." isn't saying "this is fact, this is the 100% true reason for the dinosaur's extinction". So please don't imply that's what I said.
In that case, we'd no longer be humans. We'd have evolved from humans, but we wouldn't be human, we'd be some different energy-being.
Just because I accept that death is a natural part of life doesn't mean I'm an anarchist or that I want to die. And I love that you feel you know me and can judge me after I've posted twice in a thread.
Actually it does. Just talk to anyone that works there, they'll agree. They won't word it like that, but that's politics more than anything.
Well why did you even bring it up then? I treated your words as a rebuttal, nothing more nothing less, and as a rebuttal, it lacked logical sense. Obviously the dinosaurs didn't die out because they couldn't colonize space. But when you think about it, imagine if they could have left the planet for a few years during that supposed impact. They'd have lived on! And so too will we when our planet gets hit again, provided we've established colonies in space.
Fair enough. Doesn't mean I have to subscribe to the idea that humans WILL die out. What makes you so sure? I'll be the glass-is-half-full on this one.
Actually I judge people the moment they open their mouths. And you posted in -my- thread. I just don't understand why you're so sure humans are destined for oblivion. If anything about humanity has taught us, it's that we survive, we adapt, we transcend... and we definitely don't give in to even the harshest of conditions, even death. Space, one day, will be our home, and humankind will live on through the cosmos and beyond that if there is such a thing, long after this planet, or even this solar system is gone.
Well, it was established during the Cold War era, as part of the ongoing rivalry between the U.S. and the U.S.S.R. And spending money was what the Cold War was all about. You had to have more weapons than the other guy--weapons that you couldn't use or else it'd lead to MAD. So, since you couldn't use them, you just kept building more to stay ahead, and you kept spending more to build them.
Not a question of if, but when. That's not pessimism? Not nihilism? Your words translate into we are all going to die anyway so why bother trying? My bad, maybe there's a better word for it, but it definitely seems like a poor way to look at the future of humanity. If we're all going to die out one day, what's the point of even living now? There's been many great authors that toil with this concept... we turn to dust, what we do during our lives is ultimately meaningless.. meh I say. That's the goth in people talking, the emo (not really implying you, though it's hard not to, lol). Sorry. You don't wear black nail polish, do you? bah I can't help it SORRY.
Perhaps my view is a tad strong, but that's based on discussions with NASA personnel, astronomy professors, etc. Also because I find no real reason to explore space, ultimately, except for colonization. I -am- incredibly optimistic when it comes to space exploration, I live for the day when something like Star Trek becomes a reality. Not so I can enjoy the creature comforts that fictitious future awarded humanity, but because this planet is just too darn small for us, and our growth isn't stopping, in small areas yes, but on a whole our population is just getting bigger and bigger, and the planet isn't. If we don't start thinking about ways to get off this rock, and onto other rocks, we'll eventually have to start taking drastic measures to keep from dying out altogether. (China's already got the 1 child rule, others will start to think it'd be better to let the starving nations just die, etc.) This planet was not meant to sustain billions of humans, millions, sure... but billions, too many.
Ok, well then how have you calculated these odds??
So far it's been looking pretty unlikely that the world is going to end in 2012, so our government is being proactive and making sure it lives up to the hype.
I hope this post (and others like it) are all in jest.
Ahh, good ol' SmashBoards. Where we can explain scientific actions with Nintendo logic.
Remember what happened when we ****ed with the Moon last time?
The same could be said about Einstein, and the team that made the atom bomb.The way you make it sound, NASA is going to nuke the moon to see what kind of rocks there is
Nonetheless, you have to consider that NASA is pretty thorough on these missions. They will not risk having moon debris falling down on Earth because once someone gets hurt, their program would face persecution. These are Top Scientists working, they must know what they're planning.
LOL! Right on... my wife is a very strong believer in the end-times dealings of the bush administration, and particularly Bush himself. I'd not go into myself cause I don't really follow all that jazz, too complex... but she was convinced that Bush literally thought he was a major player in the so-called end of days myth as interpreted in the book of revelation. Now this 2012 has come up, and everyone's like oh yeah, the Mayan calender ends then and blah blah... woooow. haha well we'll see if this new movie 2012 is a total flop or not, I hate disaster movies anyway, but especially ones that try to make us fear a particular date, like all that hype back in '99. As for if the moon discovery leads to colony for safe haven from end times... phew, well that's scary if its true, but if that's the case F hiding on Earth my *** is gonna find a way onto that Moon.
Yeah, but they had intended to build a weapon of mass destruction from the beginning.
But we will all be dead then (j/k j/k)
