smashkng
Smash Lord
Can someone make a thread of Wario's potential in teams? And also a weekly discussion of partners with Wario please.
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Wario Q&A Thread
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AlMoStLeGeNdArY
Smash Hero
Why don't you start it?
smashkng
Smash Lord
I'm too lazy to put discussions of partners for Wario. That's why I want other person to do it.
AlMoStLeGeNdArY
Smash Hero
If you want something done you should do it yourself.
AlMoStLeGeNdArY
Smash Hero
Yeah you can.
*JuriHan*
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Ok I have question. How am I suppose to play Wario properly if he's so **** sexy? I cannot win a SINGLE time with him because I am always thinking about doing dirty things to him. He really distracts me and I feel it is really detracting from my ability to play as him. Maybe I'm using his *** taunt too much and trying to look at it and not attacking enough? Do you think that is the reason? I mean I don't get it I go Wario, and get 3 stocked by a Link because when I tried to recover after I gimped him with n-air I fantasize about how he might be in bed and I SD. Then I go Kirby, 2 stock the guy and even nearly zero death him. I felt so dumb and ashamed for disgracing the sexiest character in the game. I really, REALLY want to play Wario, maybe he's just not meant for me? Please help! I'm not being funny I have NEVER EVER won a match with him! 
I ****ing lost to a Falcon he just grab released me to f-air that's all he did and I lost!!!!
I ****ing lost to a Falcon he just grab released me to f-air that's all he did and I lost!!!! 
Palpi
Smash Hero
Wario shouldn't get grabbed that much.Ok I have question. How am I suppose to play Wario properly if he's so **** sexy? I cannot win a SINGLE time with him because I am always thinking about doing dirty things to him. He really distracts me and I feel it is really detracting from my ability to play as him. Maybe I'm using his *** taunt too much and trying to look at it and not attacking enough? Do you think that is the reason? I mean I don't get it I go Wario, and get 3 stocked by a Link because when I tried to recover after I gimped him with n-air I fantasize about how he might be in bed and I SD. Then I go Kirby, 2 stock the guy and even nearly zero death him. I felt so dumb and ashamed for disgracing the sexiest character in the game. I really, REALLY want to play Wario, maybe he's just not meant for me? Please help! I'm not being funny I have NEVER EVER won a match with him!
I am picking Wario as a CP! Question, is bike used as a "tech chase" after a bite or any move that hits my opponent to the ground, like a downthrow a legitmate follow-up if they tend to roll away? After I read their rolls in to my bite once they tend to roll away, was just wondering.
toobusytocare
Smash Lord
Man dude I do that too...Ok I have question. How am I suppose to play Wario properly if he's so **** sexy? I cannot win a SINGLE time with him because I am always thinking about doing dirty things to him. He really distracts me and I feel it is really detracting from my ability to play as him. Maybe I'm using his *** taunt too much and trying to look at it and not attacking enough? Do you think that is the reason? I mean I don't get it I go Wario, and get 3 stocked by a Link because when I tried to recover after I gimped him with n-air I fantasize about how he might be in bed and I SD. Then I go Kirby, 2 stock the guy and even nearly zero death him. I felt so dumb and ashamed for disgracing the sexiest character in the game. I really, REALLY want to play Wario, maybe he's just not meant for me? Please help! I'm not being funny I have NEVER EVER won a match with him!
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Humpy Thrashabout
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What is wrong with that? I've done it before. It isn't a ton of damage, but if you do it correctly it doesn't seem punishable.
Probably because there are better options...
toobusytocare
Smash Lord
i dont like dthrow at all
it always seems like it doesnt put you in a good position unless you are CGing
it always seems like it doesnt put you in a good position unless you are CGing
BMX
Smash Lord
Dthrow is an excellent pseudo CG.
Here's a taste.
1st. Dthrow.
2nd. If they spotdodge, predict and grab again
3rd. Dthrow.
4th. Fsmash.
Works on predictable people. -_^b
Here's a taste.
1st. Dthrow.
2nd. If they spotdodge, predict and grab again
3rd. Dthrow.
4th. Fsmash.
Works on predictable people. -_^b
Or the buffered CG, right? What about Fthrow > Dash Shield > Shield Grab(predicting ur opponent's AD/punishing some attack)? Is this usefull?
Also, is there any guaranteed sequence after any of Wario's throws?
Humpy Thrashabout
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Like what? If I got off a low percent bite and the opponent landed a distance away from me I don't know of any other good options to punish. I could wait and hope they roll towards me for another bite or fsmash. But if they roll away I don't think I could get at them before they get a chance to reset.
I just think your post was excessively useless because you didn't give any examples.
The bite puts the opponent in the air, where Wario is great. Got it? ^^
If you want to punish a roll with bike, do it after dthrow. TBH though guys, I find myself very very rarely using dthrow anymore. People are learning that they just need to roll/jump up and away to avoid punishment, I'd rather fthrow for more damage or even uthrow for even better positional advantage.
toobusytocare
Smash Lord
yeah what PX said, everyone i play just rolls or jumps so i always fthrow or sometimes backthrow off the stage
I usually Fthrow most of the time. However Dthrow is immensely useful when you have opponent's trapped.
E.g. I'm on Brinstar, back facing the edge. I'm positioned to where Snake would BARELY land on the edge (or barely fall off, either one is good.) So basically, in that position, I grab and Dthrow. Now, there are a few scenarios that can occur:
A. Snake barely lands right on the edge
a1. He shields, you Fsmash and it knocks him off the edge (either hopefully offstage or where he grabs the edge. Either one is good for Wario.)
a2. He shields, you regrab and either pummel him until he falls down, or you Fthrow for extra damage.
a3. He shields, you Bite/Attack his Shield with Dair/Uair. He either takes damage or falls offstage.
aa1. He Spotdodges, you wait and grab him.
aa2. He Spotdodges, you read it and Attack him.
aaa1. He rolls backwards (he has no room to roll), so you get a free hit on him.
aaaa1. He rolls forward and you regrab/hit him (you can be mean and grab him facing the same way as before and just Dthrow him again to reset the position)
B. Snake barely falls off the edge
b1. Depending on when exactly he falls off the edge (also depends on the %), you can sometimes buffer a dash grab and catch him.
b2. He falls off, you Fsmash and catch him before he can catch the edge (very situational, not guaranteed to work).
b3. He falls off, you wait for his DJ attack/Airdodge and punish.
b4. He falls off and grabs the edge, and now you have Snake on the edge
b5. He DJ Cypher away/towards the stage, you punish accordingly.
E.g. I'm on Brinstar, back facing the edge. I'm positioned to where Snake would BARELY land on the edge (or barely fall off, either one is good.) So basically, in that position, I grab and Dthrow. Now, there are a few scenarios that can occur:
A. Snake barely lands right on the edge
a1. He shields, you Fsmash and it knocks him off the edge (either hopefully offstage or where he grabs the edge. Either one is good for Wario.)
a2. He shields, you regrab and either pummel him until he falls down, or you Fthrow for extra damage.
a3. He shields, you Bite/Attack his Shield with Dair/Uair. He either takes damage or falls offstage.
aa1. He Spotdodges, you wait and grab him.
aa2. He Spotdodges, you read it and Attack him.
aaa1. He rolls backwards (he has no room to roll), so you get a free hit on him.
aaaa1. He rolls forward and you regrab/hit him (you can be mean and grab him facing the same way as before and just Dthrow him again to reset the position)
B. Snake barely falls off the edge
b1. Depending on when exactly he falls off the edge (also depends on the %), you can sometimes buffer a dash grab and catch him.
b2. He falls off, you Fsmash and catch him before he can catch the edge (very situational, not guaranteed to work).
b3. He falls off, you wait for his DJ attack/Airdodge and punish.
b4. He falls off and grabs the edge, and now you have Snake on the edge
b5. He DJ Cypher away/towards the stage, you punish accordingly.
Well yeah, it has it's situational uses, but it's just not nearly as usable as it used to be.
Yeah. I've started telling people that honestly the best choice usually is to roll away after the Dthrow. Wario has to run full speed/pull out his Bike/Dacus at them if he wants any shot at punishing them. Now you CAN punish it if you predict it, as I've punished Dojo and Infinity countless times with Dthrow where I knew they would roll away so I just ran full speed at them after the throw and caught them with a dash grab. But for the most part, it's too hard figuring out Spotdodge, Roll, Shield, or attack all at the same time.
culexus・wau
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How long does it take for Wario to regain his bike back after it falls off the stage/is broken?
I get really annoyed whenever I SD/get gimped because I SideB too early and wario does that "wheres mah bike?" animation. <<
I get really annoyed whenever I SD/get gimped because I SideB too early and wario does that "wheres mah bike?" animation. <<
Go to FD.
Go near the edge. Jump and Bike, tilt the bike back slightly and jump. Then, in the air, wait a bit and double Jump. Move towards the center of the stage. Do not fast fall. Once you land, run towards the edge, and repeat. You should have your bike back by then.
I think it takes 4.5 seconds, maybe a bit shorter or longer, to get it back. I'll look into it.
Go near the edge. Jump and Bike, tilt the bike back slightly and jump. Then, in the air, wait a bit and double Jump. Move towards the center of the stage. Do not fast fall. Once you land, run towards the edge, and repeat. You should have your bike back by then.
I think it takes 4.5 seconds, maybe a bit shorter or longer, to get it back. I'll look into it.
Humpy Thrashabout
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Also, do you have to touch the ground before you get it back? If I jumped off my bike to recover and I got hit back away from the stage can I count on the bike being available if I had no other way to get back to the stage?
I really hate asking technical questions I could test myself, but I can't seem to get the computer to properly hit me so I don't touch the stage, but stay in the air long enough.
I really hate asking technical questions I could test myself, but I can't seem to get the computer to properly hit me so I don't touch the stage, but stay in the air long enough.
He'll be facing the other way, lol.
Good point.
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Gichan
Smash Champion
I still think dthrow is amazing at, at least, low percents. It is still my favourite throw. It can mindgame the opponent and you can also get a taste of what they are like. if they roll behind you, they are impatient or aggresive(ex. MK roll behind you to attempt dsmash lulz), if they spot dodge they are careful, if they roll away or jump, they have knowledge. I mean, it isn't fully going to determine, but it shows a bit of the opponent. I also like dthrow to turn around jab to grab or jab-crouch-cancelled-to another jab then grab or whatever you want. Another thing is, if you can predict them like two or three times in a row, that is a serious mindgame because they will be wary when they are dthrowed again and may make a predictable move. This also works at high percents because they WILL most likely roll away or shield (you can grab again easily)
Fthrow is amazing at high percents, gets them out of your comfort zone and more time to think. you are the one chasing and they are being chased so the pressure is mainly on them.
Fthrow is amazing at high percents, gets them out of your comfort zone and more time to think. you are the one chasing and they are being chased so the pressure is mainly on them.
Admiral Pit
Smash Hero
Well, I guess it's time I make my pass over to Wario here and ask this question here. Idk if I have or not, but if I have, here it is again;
Long story short, I need to contact some good Warios with some good Pit experience, so I can get some recent Pit v Wario discussions going, not to mention it being in the Wario's point-of-view.
So the question is, can some good warios help me with the matchup data? The Pit v Wario stuff will he in a document where all of the Pit matchups will be summariezed, which I can send the document to u on AIM.
You can contact me via PM or AIM (AIM recommended due to document). What I ask for the contributing Warios is a detailed summary of the Pit v Wario matchup, including capabilities, Edgeguarding/gimping, Stage CPs/bans, and u get the idea.
I would appreciate your support guys, especially since Pit has a disadvantage against him.
Long story short, I need to contact some good Warios with some good Pit experience, so I can get some recent Pit v Wario discussions going, not to mention it being in the Wario's point-of-view.
So the question is, can some good warios help me with the matchup data? The Pit v Wario stuff will he in a document where all of the Pit matchups will be summariezed, which I can send the document to u on AIM.
You can contact me via PM or AIM (AIM recommended due to document). What I ask for the contributing Warios is a detailed summary of the Pit v Wario matchup, including capabilities, Edgeguarding/gimping, Stage CPs/bans, and u get the idea.
I would appreciate your support guys, especially since Pit has a disadvantage against him.
BMX
Smash Lord
SO I played OOS yesterday... preferably NJ.
I honestly was confused those matches because it is very unfamiliar.
How do you guys handle it??
I honestly was confused those matches because it is very unfamiliar.
How do you guys handle it??
WTF are you trying to say, BMX, b/c that's like... not in English.
AlMoStLeGeNdArY
Smash Hero
I think he's asking how do you handle playing out of state.