Wario Q&A Thread

[DMG]

Dang.

Exposed.

 

[toobusytocare]

also since lylat is smaller, it seems like the better option since lucario will live longer on Picto or Japes which we dont want.

 

[Arty]

Does the Wario CG on Falco have to be stale after a certain percent?

 

[PhantomX]

Does the Wario CG on Falco have to be stale after a certain percent?

It only goes up to 120% if it's correctly staled. If you pummel or use any pokes or attacks in between CG attempts, it will shorten the CG.

You can start it between 53-70ish even if it's a little staled, the CG will just be shorter, as I mentioned before.

 

[phi1ny3]

Where are the current MU's being discussed? The one that I posted in seems old.

 

[PhantomX]

Just ask what you need in here.

 

[toobusytocare]

Does the Wario CG on Falco have to be stale after a certain percent?

It has to be a certain staleness after about 70

if you start at around 53% it will stale itself correctly to CG to 120%

 

[Jupz]

I'm having trouble landing it, I think its because I'm not buffering it correctly. Any tips on when to input turn and grab?

Also, do you hold sideways the whole way through the Dthrow animation and press grab at the correct time or do you have to press turn and grab at the same time?

 

[Darky-Sama]

I usually just hold the direction I want the grab to go, and as soon as Wario's Dthrow animations end, I'll just press the Z button to grab.

If you're holding the way you want the grab as soon as it ends, I'll register as a grab in that direction, so long as you don't try to grab before the Dthrow is over. In that case, it'll register as a shield. FFFFF...

 

[toobusytocare]

you dthrow and then immediately hold the opposite direction and as wario's hands are closing you release the stick and press grab


its takes practice but once you get it, its easy


read the CG thread for more info



EDIT: also darky, you HAVE to start the dthrow and turn around before the throw animation ends or else you wont get the buffered CG


you can only cg DK without buffering

 

[Darky-Sama]

EDIT: also darky, you HAVE to start the dthrow and turn around before the throw animation ends or else you wont get the buffered CG


you can only cg DK without buffering

Which is exactly what I'm saying. lol.
I was just saying how I did it as a recommendation.

 

[toobusytocare]

you just said that you have to use the dthrow after the last one ends....

 

[Darky-Sama]

you just said that you have to use the dthrow after the last one ends....

Then what are you talking about?

Downthrow -> Hold the direction they're going to come out at after the throw -> As soon as the animation is finished, press the grab button and it'll register as a grab in that direction.

That's what I'm saying in reference to the question. Otherwise, it's difficult to even attempt to buffer the grab since a split second wrong can either make your next grab far too late or possibly make Wario pull up a shield or grab in front of him instead.

Is that incorrect, or did I merely word myself wrong in the first post?

 

[toobusytocare]

you need to input the grab before the animation ends :\

 

[Darky-Sama]

More like, as soon as the animation ends. If not, it'll register as a shield half of the time. Which is why I recommended holding the control stick the way you want to grab first to save you the difficulty of that, while still buffering the next grab. lol.

 

[PhantomX]

Darky, if you do it as soon as the animation ends, you won't catch those like Falco/Wolf/Bowser. You need to do it during the 10 frames before the animation ends (so basically, as it's ending), otherwise it won't work.

 

[Darky-Sama]

Darky, if you do it as soon as the animation ends, you won't catch those like Falco/Wolf/Bowser. You need to do it during the 10 frames before the animation ends (so basically, as it's ending), otherwise it won't work.

Really? I haven't found much difficulty in doing it the way I have.
Well, if you say so, then I'd recommend people taking that way then.

I just do it as soon as Wario is standing back up from doing the down throw, which I'm not 100% sure about the frame data on that throw, but eh. The way you state it sounds a lot more accurate.

It's probably the same thing I'm talking about, I just didn't word it correctly. My bad. slfdkj

 

[Cirno]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I24bP2akQVc

At 2:44, Wario throws his bike up but it comes down moving horizontally.


Does anyone know how to do this?

 

[DMG]

He smash threw it down, which causes it to bounce like that.

 

[Cirno]

Too good.


I bet my house in a Snake v Wario brinstar match.

I play Snake.

Should I start look for a new place to stay?

 

[PhantomX]

Probably should.

 

[DMG]

Dude, if you bet the house on Snake in that matchup on Brinstar vs Wario, you should probably be smacked and then pointed towards the closest homeless shelter.

 

[demonictoonlink]

Is Snake even good in any match ups their?

 

[toobusytocare]

you mean on Brinstar?

 

[Jupz]

Thanks for the help guys

 

[AlMoStLeGeNdArY]

I'm struggling against snake any tips ?

 

[toobusytocare]

this might all be obvious but:

bite is really good vs snake

also when he's recovering, eat his cypher
or fart on him

he's really easy to fart on, especcially while recovering

uhhh, dont fall for his pivot grabs, or else you'll eat a bair, uair, nair, or utilt
if he nairs you, you can SDI out, either up or down depending on if he's rising or not

CP brinstar or RC, ban halberd or maybe FD


Uhh I'll post more when i remember it


OH also against every snake i've played i've been able to Rising Dair>FF uair
IDK if its legit or not tho
EDIT: apparently they can SDI out of it, but uair to uair works

OH ALSO!!!!! learn to footstool snake's recovery
its over for him if you do

 

[omegablackmage]

fh dair is nice because on tall characters like ddd and snake the tip of the dair clips their head. So your looking at some nice shield pressure (crossup to bite) or your gunna get a dair to up air at low percents, which is always nice.

 

[Masky]

..........

 

[toobusytocare]

:\

thanks for the sarcasm masky -.-

 

[AlMoStLeGeNdArY]

this might all be obvious but:

bite is really good vs snake

also when he's recovering, eat his cypher
or fart on him

he's really easy to fart on, especcially while recovering

uhhh, dont fall for his pivot grabs, or else you'll eat a bair, uair, nair, or utilt
if he nairs you, you can SDI out, either up or down depending on if he's rising or not

CP brinstar or RC, ban halberd or maybe FD


Uhh I'll post more when i remember it


OH also against every snake i've played i've been able to Rising Dair>FF uair
IDK if its legit or not tho
EDIT: apparently they can SDI out of it, but uair to uair works

OH ALSO!!!!! learn to footstool snake's recovery
its over for him if you do

footstool his recovery?

 

[toobusytocare]

Yeah, footstooling him when he's trying to C4 messes him up

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBFhqZ4yY2s

watch at 3:02



this whole set is pretty good actually, it would prolly help to watch the whole thing

 

[Quik17]

I need some tips to deal with the tornado better. At my last tourney, a tornado happy MK was giving me some problems. I won the match but I got hit by the tornado way more times than I would of liked. I know F-tilt is great and I use that a lot against it, especially for getting the kill when the MK is recovering with tornado. I tried using D-Air over the top but kept getting sucked in. Was I doing something wrong? Any other tips against tornado??

 

[Popertop]

Don't try to dair the top repeatedly,
it's much better to just airdodge through it or jump or bike away from it.

I mean, dair'ing the top will work until they just move the nado slightly to the side.

If you predict the nado, Ftilt is great, but if they start it close to you, Fsmash also works.

Of course you can just shield it

 

[omegablackmage]

imo, the ftilt isn't really that great of a tool to deal with the tornado, it just isn't quick enough. Mk's won't tornado at you from across the stage, they're going to get mid range and go at you with it, meaning you won't have enough time to pull the ftilt out. Dj and dair works much better to deal with it, you just need to work on spacing it probably.

 

[toobusytocare]

you need to dair right in the center


fsmash can go through it i think, but its tough.

I usually just tilt my sheild up and sheild the whole thing then punish if they dont space it right.

 

[PhantomX]

you need to dair right in the center


fsmash can go through it i think, but its tough.

I usually just tilt my sheild up and sheild the whole thing then punish if they dont space it right.

This.

10 Thises

 

[toobusytocare]

haha thanks

 

[hunger!]

well guys....it's happened.

i main marth in singles now. wario in doubles. sorry >.<

 

[toobusytocare]

imma spike you