Wario Q&A Thread

[slikvik]

I can't do it for crap man. Are you saying I'm mashing my buttons to hard?

i think you're overthinking everything...

 

[PhantomX]

You're hitting up too hard on the control stick. It's similar to trying to c4 recovery with snake when you aren't ascending. If you just hit down b you'll fastfall it, however if you do down (lightly) b you'll drop the c4 w/o fastfalling. The same concept applies with tap jump and using your jumps. If you do it lightly you won't waste your jump, if you play (what for me is) normal you'll probably waste them.

 

[furiousduffmanx]

how do you do the jab to forward smash? is it the same as jab> bite/grab? is it almost guaranteed every time?

 

[smashkng]

Every character has 20 frames on Wario. That's enough for a lot of them to Usmash or aerial.


Bowser has 30, which means he can Fsmash. lol

All characters except Jigglypuff suffer an air release lag of 50 frames. This also includes Wario only that Wario escape a very poor distance. Fox and Falco also have an air release issue which is that they can't do absolutely anything until they reach the ground, an example is forcing Fox/Falco fall into Snake's mine.

 

[smashkng]

You're hitting up too hard on the control stick. It's similar to trying to c4 recovery with snake when you aren't ascending. If you just hit down b you'll fastfall it, however if you do down (lightly) b you'll drop the c4 w/o fastfalling. The same concept applies with tap jump and using your jumps. If you do it lightly you won't waste your jump, if you play (what for me is) normal you'll probably waste them.

It's easier to cancel Cypher just before it ends and planting the C4, this is how I plant it and nearly never do it badly into SD.

 

[ssbbFICTION]

I hate tap jump and never play with it on...

 

[PhantomX]

Then I guess DMG leaves it on. I know SOMEONE uses it, lol.

smashkng, if you learn to do the light c4, you can do an aerial til way later and then c4 whenever b/c you won't kill yourself, rather than having to do it while ascending.

 

[Excellence]

You're hitting up too hard on the control stick. It's similar to trying to c4 recovery with snake when you aren't ascending. If you just hit down b you'll fastfall it, however if you do down (lightly) b you'll drop the c4 w/o fastfalling. The same concept applies with tap jump and using your jumps. If you do it lightly you won't waste your jump, if you play (what for me is) normal you'll probably waste them.

I'm playing with tap jump off but the problem is I think I need to buffer the next aerial during my double jump because thats the only way it works.

 

[smashkng]

I always time precise it to be like only 1mm less. PhantomX, do you say it's better to wait until end and risk fast fall rather than end 1 frame earlier? I think it's still possible to do an aerial. And still have enough time to never kill myself when meteor cancel 1mm from bottom blast line.

 

[PhantomX]

I don't know what you're talking about anymore

If you meteor canceled something, you should probably up b, and not c4, haha. Waiting and "risking the fastfall" is better if you have someone right next to you trying to gimp, b/c you can bair/uair them off, and then c4 after.

 

[SSJ5Goku8932]

Just watch this vid and you will know my question.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hM3DVH5_3A&feature=related

 

[ssbbFICTION]

Just watch this vid and you will know my question.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hM3DVH5_3A&feature=related

0_________o

 

[slikvik]

i want that bike

 

[PhantomX]

I think that has to do with the Yoshi's Island slant. That thing makes Sonic invincible on his spin dashes, and DK invincible on his Up Bs, so it doesn't surprise me that we could get invincible bikes from it XD

 

[magikguy]

would that bike really be any good ? i'm just saying if you get knocked off stage your ******

 

[PhantomX]

It would be good to use it as an edgeguard, b/c if it lands they just die regardless of what they do, lol. But yeah, too dangerous to have in the middle of hte stage like that.

 

[Collective of Bears]

I love the bike so much, and it sucks so bad... I need to learn to stop using it, but it's addicting >_<

 

[kirbywizard]

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[TiresAreForCars]

I have a question, whats wario's best move to punish roll dodges?(in general)

 

[PhantomX]

I generally punish predictable rolling with either the DACUS or the bike.

 

[YagamiDark]

Yeah I played a Lucario who would roll away anytime I got remotely close to him. I punished with Bike and DACUS, but eventually he started to see through it. I tried empty SHing and following up with a dashing grab, but that didn't really work. Anything else you can punish rolling with?

 

[:mad:]

If they constantly roll, Dsmash works once in a blue moon. Dair or Nair in place, as in just SH and don't use it in any direction, they're bound to run right into one. Also, try pivot-grabbing if you can predict a roll.

 

[drunk3ng0ldfish]

WARIOMAN QUESTION!!! ˚∆˚"
does transforming into warioman refresh your stale moves? (as in after you transform back)
was wondering.

 

[Gichan]

What situations are good a jab? Is out of shield good? Or is nair always the best option out of shield?

 

[PhantomX]

My two preferred out of shield options are grab >>>>>>>>>> nair. Jab is better used as a spacing tool, in my opinion. 8 Frames is pretty slow so if you start jabbing out of shield, they'll just jab you first.

It has pretty **** high priority, so it's ok to just throw it out from time to time against most characters, and then react if it lands.

 

[b0wzr!]

How does one approach G&W?
It seems everytime I go near him, his priority with his Bair and his Down Smash always gets me.

 

[PhantomX]

If you land next to him, sh nair out of shield > any of his options, and you can grab him out of a lot of things as well, and just grab him a lot in general. SDI the backair and start punishing them for it, it's the nair you should be worried about.

I know it's counterintuitive playing Wario and all, but ***** your shield, a lot, and tilt it up against his aerials. Learn to tech their dthrows and don't get into a predictable techroll pattern. Watch my matches with Hylian on my thread.

 

[Gichan]

couldn't G&W do another dsmash right after shielding the first? Like is nair really faster than dsmash?

 

[PhantomX]

Yeah, their smashes are super slow. If both are shielding, we can SH nair before his dsmash actually has a hitbox.

 

[b0wzr!]

Hmm, cool.
Thanks for the info.
btw sexy vidz

 

[Popertop]

Yeah I played a Lucario who would roll away anytime I got remotely close to him. I punished with Bike and DACUS, but eventually he started to see through it. I tried empty SHing and following up with a dashing grab, but that didn't really work. Anything else you can punish rolling with?

Fair. Just poke them with that to make them nervous. They might start rolling behind you, which is when you Fsmash.
There is a lot you can do to Lucario to make him uncomfortable. You can camp him even but that's balls and I probably wouldn't do it.

and you can use his jab to punish spot dodges.

jab > grab
jab > smash

 

[TiresAreForCars]

i have two questions:
1 is there any button input to cancel the jab(like crouching) to do jab fsmash?
2 what are some good mindgames(or ways to punish), when your opponents right above you and knows your going to uair, so they airdodge right when you get near them.

 

[Popertop]

1. yeah just press down and then fsmash.
2. just delay your Uair until they are vulnerable at the end of their airdodge. That works at any height. But they can also fastfall and you might miss them. Depending on how high up they are you can Fsmash them before they land, grab them, or do an Uair into an Usmash to catch them in the middle of their airdodge. Jab works too. Also, if they are at kill percent, you can Waft.

 

[TiresAreForCars]

1. yeah just press down and then fsmash.
2. just delay your Uair until they are vulnerable at the end of their airdodge. That works at any height. But they can also fastfall and you might miss them. Depending on how high up they are you can Fsmash them before they land, grab them, or do an Uair into an Usmash to catch them in the middle of their airdodge. Jab works too. Also, if they are at kill percent, you can Waft.

Ty=D
10 ty's

 

[Gichan]

people air dodging into my wafts is second best method of kill for me, first is the infamous jab to fsmash, man that works almost all the time.

 

[PhantomX]

People be stealing my jab to fsmash! I don't even cancel it with an input, timing works well enough and avoids the possibility of crouching, which sucks.

Baiting airdodges with Wario is amazing, as it can lead to an upair anyway, a nair to get them offstage, or free farts.

 

[Popertop]

Ty=D
10 ty's

np
10 np's

 

[Fyist]

Will a full d-air or bite refresh your moves?

 

[DMG]

Sadly, no for Dair and I am pretty sure bite won't either. It will count as just 1 move.

 

[PhantomX]

Someone should test bite, actually. It's possible that it counts as a throw + pummels.