Wario Q&A Thread

[Razmakazi]

AL, i guess dacus

and whoa pwneroni, that uair, footstool, weak nair stuff is **** xD

i prob shud practice the cg too

and tbtc, i can already do that but thx :O

 

[toobusytocare]

practice bdacus out of fthrow

hella fun

 

[B.Mack]

bdacus out of bite

uair > utilt > uair

not getting hit by CPU(this is actually very good to practice.)

the Falco CG cant be practiced in training mode as the dthrow has to stale for the CG to work from 70-120.
just put unlimited stock and time and set falco to 50% handicap in normal brawl.

 

[toobusytocare]

you can practice the CG in training mode but only from 53-70

so just reset them to 53 every time

its a lot more convenient

 

[B.Mack]

I prefer to practice if I can hold the cg all the way to 120 but maybe that's just me...
Anyways I'm off to make a thread.

 

[AlMoStLeGeNdArY]

I prefer to practice if I can hold the cg all the way to 120 but maybe that's just me...
Anyways I'm off to make a thread.

you can't do the CG up to 120 on falco in training mode. Because the dthrow doesn't decay and the dthrow needs to be decayed at that point or he'll be out of range.

 

[Punishment Divine]

there's a code that enables decay in training mode

 

[AlMoStLeGeNdArY]

there's a code that enables decay in training mode

I know this kind sir, I wasn't aware if he had hacked or if he know this.

 

[Razmakazi]

i know it but i only have music hax.

so ima practice those funny uair -> footstool combos

bite to dacus

dacus in general

wasn't aware wario had a bdacus so ima practice some wario bdacus stuff.

and for sure the CG. I can kinda just do falco mu as peach though but like all of the spacies are still annoying to fight as her.

the CG is just buffering each regrab with the standard 10 frame buffer input window right?

 

[B.Mack]

bdacus out of bite

uair > utilt > uair

not getting hit by CPU(this is actually very good to practice.)

the Falco CG cant be practiced in training mode as the dthrow has to stale for the CG to work from 70-120.
just put unlimited stock and time and set falco to 50% handicap in normal brawl.

you can't do the CG up to 120 on falco in training mode. Because the dthrow doesn't decay and the dthrow needs to be decayed at that point or he'll be out of range.

lol wtf... didnt you see that post? ^^

 

[AlMoStLeGeNdArY]

lol wtf... didnt you see that post? ^^

Na, I must of skipped my baddddddddddddddddddddddd,

 

[(S!C)]

sure you can practise the cg on falco in the training mode
but in the tm it only works up to 88% after that its not able thats because the dthrow is not staled
ok enough talked, here is a good from fiction, i also learned the chaingrab just because of this great thread!

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=7466449&postcount=37

 

[Dynomite]

Its not effective to practice it in training mode.

Falco doesnt move so you wont know if you got the timing right because his shield doesnt pop up.

Shield popping up = basically when they can roll away.

 

[(S!C)]

training mode -> settings -> lv9 falco put him on "avoid" thats it

 

[B.Mack]

why is everyone repeating stuff that's already been said?

Anyways I was doing some testing and I figured that Wario actually has likethe best VERTICAL aerial mobility in the game. the only character that climbs faster than wario and is still able to use attacks is Sonic, but the catch is that Sonic doesnt have his second jump after the spring. Wario however, can jump, bike jump, this puts him at an incredible height, and then he still has his double jump after that! combined with wario's nice differences between falling speed and fastfalling speed, you can mindgame so well when you are above your opponent... landing dairs is a piece of cake.

EDIT: I found this while namesearching Wario: http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=11706936&postcount=7
those of you who didnt know that can thank me later.

 

[Lord Chair]

Didn't Falco's shield animation (ironically) decrease hit hurtbox just enough so that you can't regrab him?

 

[B.Mack]

Didn't Falco's shield animation (ironically) decrease hit hurtbox just enough so that you can't regrab him?

I sure as hell hope not. dont tell anyone just in case.

 

[Razmakazi]

EDIT: I found this while namesearching Wario: http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=11706936&postcount=7
those of you who didnt know that can thank me later.

lol u can try to SDI but I don't think you've seen me do the string.

it's very easy to follow the DI. Peach can literally just move across the stage and even pivot around while just stringing ya. the thing is though is that the string only rly goes up to like 44 on wario in which case, other standard Peach combos would tack on more damage anyway.

just don't get grabbed at 0 b/c then ur definitely gonna end up at 44.

hmm...or i guess i cud pass up the last hit of the string for a double hit bair to tack on 21 more percent....hmm

 

[Lord Chair]

Something entirely different, has anyone ever seen the frame data on eating nanas/armor pieces/other small items? Seems somehow useful to know.

 

[Owsla]

Some elementary questions...

Is there a topic anywhere about how Wario should counterpick? I don't know what stages Wario should ban against characters like MK/Snake/Marth, or where Wario should try to take them to. I know Wario is amazing on Brinstar, but I presume that would get banned against me a lot of the time.

 

[(S!C)]

at least i can say that you should ban halberd against snake ^-^ (hate it :/)

if you are not sure what you want to counterpick, then take ps1 there are a lots of tricks for wario, you often get an advantage there and if you are in a chaingrab by ddd, ics whatever, sometimes the stage rescues you.

 

[B.Mack]

Razmakazi I was talking about the fact that Wario can DI to avoid the footstool...

I think Wario generally gets an advantage on any stage which forces aerial play such as Brinstar or Norfair. It could also offer interesting edgeguarding opportunities on a stage like Frigate seeing as Wario doesn't need the ledge to recover.Just remember not to leave your. Bike on stage, lol.

 

[toobusytocare]

i think i always ban halberd as wario lol

i just dont like it

and if d3 (or anyone really) tries to take me to FD they get the ice climbers

 

[SnackAttack]

Some elementary questions...

Is there a topic anywhere about how Wario should counterpick? I don't know what stages Wario should ban against characters like MK/Snake/Marth, or where Wario should try to take them to. I know Wario is amazing on Brinstar, but I presume that would get banned against me a lot of the time.

Well... you have to think about what your opponent is capable of and then CP from there.

There's no formula that I follow when I CP, and that may explain a lot, but whatever.

For instance, my Favorite CP on MK is Yoshi's Island.

 

[AlMoStLeGeNdArY]

Some elementary questions...

Is there a topic anywhere about how Wario should counterpick? I don't know what stages Wario should ban against characters like MK/Snake/Marth, or where Wario should try to take them to. I know Wario is amazing on Brinstar, but I presume that would get banned against me a lot of the time.

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=182253

I wonder why no one ever looks at the wario directory thread.

 

[Owsla]

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=182253

I wonder why no one ever looks at the wario directory thread.

I'm glad I know all my options for where to take Ganon now.

Though seriously, thanks for the help. I saw that stage thread a few months ago, but apparently forgot about it.

 

[B.Mack]

I am currently going through all/most of the videos in the video thread. I wanna post useful pointers I notice as I go along, but I don't like the fact that other characters can see our boards... I've already held back so much **** bcos of it.

 

[Lord Chair]

Tbh I don't feel like I'm playing the game if I know stuff my opponent doesn't.

As in, really important things. Not like forced getups with bike throw.

Or Falco's dtilt beating Bite.

Or most characters being able to shieldgrab inbetween jab1 and 2.

Like, important stuff. I don't like nair > Bite/grab Snakes at 0% because what SHOULD happen is me nairing them and spacing out of his jab range. ****** got frame advantage, why would he shield/spotdodge, oh right, he doesn't know the MU and does whatever seems most reasonable.

I don't like fthrowing DDDs at 0% because they're too stupid to DI the thing downwards and be ololol safe rather than DIing it upwards and give me something I can actually work with. It's just not the way the MU is supposed to be.

Get that **** outta here. I don't really mind exploiting other players' MU inexperience, but I can't say I enjoy beating people just because of it.

Oh well, preference is preference.

 

[Masky]

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[Pwneroni]

Nah, it just makes you a n00b xD

Me, I looooove it when someone doesn't have Wario MU exp. Makes the game soo fun because a lot of fun combos happen haha. However, if they are familiar with the MU, I hope you're familiar with theirs because it sucks to be on the wrong end. Best matches IMO are when both players know the MU really well, and the game is really close. The high point of the current metagame is right before your eyes. Ideally.

 

[Waymas]

teach me how to buffered d tilt!

 

[B.Mack]

just press the input for dtilt in the last 10 frames of another animation and Wario will fingerbang frame-perfectly.

I seriously dont understand what Chair is saying... you might as well just shout out what move ur gonna do next every time before you do it. I mean little things like how we can -lalalalalalalalala-. If you list every trick you have on an opponent before you play them, you are putting yourself at a serious disadvantage... but who knows, you might be a glutton for pain.

EDIT: took out the trick there to prove my point.

 

[Pwneroni]

True, that would be like revealing your hidden tricks before the battle! The thing is though, there is a possibility they might know about all those tricks. Thus against a new opponent, you must assume that they know these things.

 

[D Who?]

Any advice on how to buffer warios CG on Falco? I'm having problems getting past 3 grabs
I just picked up Wario as an alt to Lucario (a bad one since my worst matches are Marth and Snake) but I appreciate this all
Thank you

 

[B.Mack]

Theres a whole thread on this... just look at this post: http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=7466449&postcount=37

I swear the CG gets brought up every other page on this thread.

 

[Masky]

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[Dynomite]

I find it easier to do the buffer CG if I set my grab button to X or Y instead of Z.

Ironic, I use X for every grab and Z for handling items, but i find that Z helps me buffer the chain grab better then X

 

[Sky`]

This is why the lot of you are terrible. x]]]
jay kay

Does anybody want me to release a falco CG video?

 

[Pwneroni]

That would be awesome!

 

[toobusytocare]

it wouldnt help really

ficitons post is all you need