Walgreens Mafia - DRAW game - The mod ****ed up pretty bad...=/

[Asdioh]

liking Mentos so far because he's yelling at people for doing dumb things.

Mentos, is your vote anywhere? Do you want to put it anywhere?

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Idk what to tell you asdioh... It just doesn't sit right. Gut's pulling me that way mang.

 

[Kantrip]

mentos and other people who want me to explain a scumread on July: Learn that pressure is common in this game. I had nothing. Seriously.

 

[Kantrip]

You ruin it when you defend other people like that. Let July tell me herself I have no reasons next time. It would have gave me more than a bunch of other people screaming at me "YOU HAVE NO CASE!!1!11! YOU HAVE NO CASE1!!!!1!!11111"

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Google defines pressure as: The continuous physical force exerted on or against an object by something in contact with it. You had nothing, quite literally nothing, with which to push July. Therefore, there was NO pressure... I mean if you're gonna pull something like that at least make something up bro...

 

[Kantrip]

It's mafia. You looking for physical force? You want to stop playing with definitions, or are you going to pull out some prose to make yourself look dumbfounded?

 

[Asdioh]

MENTOS WHERE'D YOU GO


inb4 this game turns into a poopstorm of angry back-and-forths

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

"Ohshii!"

Gorf wondered if Kantrip truly understood what Gorf intended by his post, since it had been fairly clear to everybody that that case Kantrip had made about July was absolutely bubkiss, and that if one were to apply pressure, they should at least try and make said pressure look like something worth pressuring so said pressurer doesn't waste eveybody's time.

 

[Kantrip]

Screw this. I hate how I play this game.

I'm sorry Gorf. I'm sorry Asdioh. I'm sorry other people.

I am a Terrorist and I'm in this store to blow it up, but I had second thoughts.

I have a one-shot suicide bomb ability, and I want people to tell me who they think I should use it on. I was thinking Rajam.

The game will be better with the two of us gone, I think. Any other suggestions?

 

[Asdioh]

Enough pointless bickering guys, only post if you'll say something remotely productive.

Gorf, do you get any scumvibes from July's post(s)? Any townvibes? I hate getting a read on her, since I always default her to scum out of paranoia.

Speaking of productivity, wat:

Screw this. I hate how I play this game.

I'm sorry Gorf. I'm sorry Asdioh. I'm sorry other people.

I am a Terrorist and I'm in this store to blow it up, but I had second thoughts.

I have a one-shot suicide bomb ability, and I want people to tell me who they think I should use it on. I was thinking Rajam.

The game will be better with the two of us gone, I think. Any other suggestions?

If you had second thoughts, why are you going to blow up?

If you're being serious, how exactly does your ability work?

 

[Kantrip]

I target someone and we both die. It's like a one-shot vig but I go as well. I can send the detonate PM to the mod at any time though.

The second thoughts are just flavor justification for being town aligned.

 

[Asdioh]

Oh.

...

Well.

I guess Day 1 would be the best time to use it, if at all, but I think you claimed way too early. And I'm unsure about using it on Rajam. You and he might be ... "distracting" right now, but it's really early and I'm no way sure that one or both of you is scum.

On second thought, Day 1 might not be the best time to use it.
Well, actually it is, considering that you just claimed and...
I don't know ._.

You claimed too early now scum is going to be extra careful not to piss you off.

 

[T-block]

it's too soon for such speculation!


Gorf, I have to agree with TB. Being "too casual" is a pretty weak argument. (besides, it's usually a towntell)


T-block, do you have any scumreads? Defending your claim is good and all, but I don't remember your thoughts on players. A votecount might help me remember..

Rajam at the moment. That's my only concrete read from going through this game as it happens. I'll look more in depth after Tuesday - caught up in job applications until then.

Idk what to tell you asdioh... It just doesn't sit right. Gut's pulling me that way mang.

So we admit there's no substance ^^

Gorf, I hope there's no meta contributing to this feel of yours, right?

 

[T-block]

You ruin it when you defend other people like that. Let July tell me herself I have no reasons next time. It would have gave me more than a bunch of other people screaming at me "YOU HAVE NO CASE!!1!11! YOU HAVE NO CASE1!!!!1!!11111"

If July had told you you had nothing, would that have been a town tell? Scum tell?

 

[Kantrip]

If July had told you you had nothing, would that have been a town tell? Scum tell?

Depends on how she said it. I can't say now, I would actually need to read that post. She could have been aggressive, passive, ignored it altogether, etc.

 

[Kantrip]

Sorry Asdioh. I shouldn't have claimed, you're right. I got caught up in being bad at this game and I feel like taking a scum down with me would help town on both fronts.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

So we admit there's no substance ^^

Gorf, I hope there's no meta contributing to this feel of yours, right?

Idk it's substance to me mang but no dude I'm not using meta to justify this.

 

[Asdioh]

Gorf and T-block, is there a reason you guys ignored Kantrip's claim entirely?

 

[T-block]

Just hopping between games. Of course it will be addressed.

Kay... Excellent choice would be Rajam.

 

[Kantrip]

When is the best time to use it? At the end of the Day phase? After we find out what our lynch yields us? Save it as a looming threat to mafia?

 

[T-block]

Is it correct to assume, then, that your kill does not end the Day?

 

[Kantrip]

Just checked again.

It will end the day if I target town.

 

[Sokr]

I probably missed it but Kantrip, is yours a day ability?

 

[T-block]

Hmmm... might be better to use it sooner rather than later then. There's definitely something to be said for leaving it as a threat as well, but I would really love to see you target Rajam toDay. It's ultimately your call - if you want to blow up Rajam I would fully support that choice.

 

[Asdioh]

Just checked again.

It will end the day if I target town.

In that case, obviously you need to wait. Also, the person should ideally be allowed to claim beforehand, so we don't have another Awkward Moment (but worse, because there will be no wagon to look at)

Kay... Excellent choice would be Rajam.

Only a townie would be so willing to off another player so quickly, right Gorf?

 

[Asdioh]

Only a townie would be so willing to off another player so quickly, right Gorf?

Direct this at Gheb too, I want to see more from him.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Gorf and T-block, is there a reason you guys ignored Kantrip's claim entirely?

Sorry having... friend zone issues o.o...

But yea if it's legit then I'd say to eliminate either a painfully useless slot for us, or a possible second place scummy slot... OoC time: Gosh Kantirip I didn't mean to just call you bad :x. Obv there's always room for improvement. Only thing is that you gotta take the right steps TO improve. Don't hang your head over this. Get time to really absorb what people feel about you play. Almost nobody, if not NOBODY, thinks you're a lost cause. Bad doesn't even BEGIN to describe you compared to others. I'd say just take time to see what others are saying and possibly try to make it work but this should TOTES be handled out of thread... If I'm getting your feel right :/.

 

[Kantrip]

Usable any time Sokr.

I'll use it on Rajam if he doesn't do anything. I think he's capable of doing something, so I'm not going to jump the gun, or the bomb as it may be in this case.

Rajam, give me a scumpick and show me you doing something about that scumpick, please.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Only a townie would be so willing to off another player so quickly, right Gorf?

... No O.o?

 

[Kantrip]

T-block, why sooner than later? Shouldn't we be sure that we hit a scum and save it for when we need it? Or even not use it at all?

 

[Kantrip]

Yeah Gorf, it can be an out of thread thing. Thanks mang

Your picks: Could you fill these in for me, Gorf?

Painfully Useless:

Possible Second Place Scummy:

 

[Rockin]

Day 1​

Rajam (3) - T-block, Jim Morrison, Asdioh

T-block (3) - Red Ryu , Gheb, Gorf,

July (1) - Kantrip

Jim Morrison - Rajam


Not Voting - Mentosman, AsianAussie, July

With 12 players, it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline is in Jan. 27th

 

[asianaussie]

Only read through once for familiarisation, going swimming now, here are thoughts

Kantrip's play reminded me too much of my own play, including the pseudo-breakdown, so I have him as town.

I was gonna ask about Rajam's usefulness but Gorf's post cleared that up. Is he really worth bombing this early? T-Block, can you comment on this?

Sokr looking a bit suspicious to me, first a vote and unvote on kantrip, then this almost completely-useless post about whether or not kantrip's ability is day-usable or not (which any glance at this page could reveal easily)

 

[Asdioh]

Usable any time Sokr.

Wait, so you can use this at night? That might be best, so we don't waste a day phase if you use it on the wrong person.

... No O.o?

If T-block were scum, would he be willing to let townRajam die so quickly, knowing that he would have to shoulder some of the blame for being so willing to let a townie die? Or would he let scummateRajam die so early on?

I don't know, but my gut is saying the opposite of yours, Gorf. Hypothetical question time: if TB is town, what does that say to you about Red Ruy?

 

[T-block]

Sure, we could look at it that way. My thinking was just that fear of losing two townies might prevent us from using the ability later on in the Day.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Yeah Gorf, it can be an out of thread thing. Thanks mang

Your picks: Could you fill these in for me, Gorf?

Painfully Useless:

Possible Second Place Scummy:

I mean I could, but this was under the assumption that it didn't possibly end the Day. Now I'm moreso thinking that it'd be well used if there's like a cop outing of some sorts, or a tracking to a dead body ya feel me?

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Wait you can use it at Night O.o? I mean now that you're outed you'd probz be unable to if there's an RB, but that's even better than doing it in the Day (unless my circumstance comes up in which case it seems more feasible to do it then).

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

If T-block were scum, would he be willing to let townRajam die so quickly, knowing that he would have to shoulder some of the blame for being so willing to let a townie die? Or would he let scummateRajam die so early on?

I mean, the first scenario I can see for a town TBlock... But the second scenario I can EASILY see scum pulling something like that with the backing that Rajam is just a hinderance to town and that he doesn't wanna deal with that... In fact that even kinda (and only kinda) applies for scumBlock doing that to townRajam.

I don't know, but my gut is saying the opposite of yours, Gorf. Hypothetical question time: if TB is town, what does that say to you about Red Ruy?

Nothing yet.

 

[mentosman8]

(Just a quick aside to Kantrip, like Gorf said you just gotta learn from what people say and go forward from there. The more you play and learn from what people are telling you, the better you'll get c: )

Now, on to game stuffs. Claim early yada yada due to moment of distress, but not a huge deal. I gotta agree with Gorf on this, Tblock saying it should be used earlier after confirmation that a misfire ends day doesn't sit well with me. If we're going to use it during D1 we need to use it on a possible lynch choice later in the day so that if it's a townie we don't lose most of the Day. I mean, yeah it would be ballsy to put it out there like that, but he's already catching some flack from the CC, and if Rajam was town it lets scum take out 3 townies with barely any discussion happening yet, and after lynching him another town death(and 4 for 1 is a very good trade in a 12 man setup). I don't think it'd make sense as both scum, but he wouldn't be cleared by that flip either. Town Tblock is betting up to 5 townie deaths(assuming Rajam town, Kan+Raj+NK+Tblock lynch if he got called on it+NK2). Not sure if he would realize that a mistake would be damning to town like that, but it certainly makes me not see any town reason to push to use the power early.

I'd say it's better off being used during night or with a guilty of some sort. We can also use it as a 2 for 1 lynch at some point if Kan stays alive, but using it during the day and the possibility of losing 3 townies like that is too risky to gamble on imo.

@Asdioh from prior to that: My vote is nowhere at the moment and will remain that way for the time being. Rajam I'm considering, but I also want to see Tblock justify his suggesting to use the power early because it *really* doesn't sit well with me, and I may end up going that way if I don't like what he has to say.

 

[T-block]

Err... I am actually operating under the assumption that "usable any time" means any time during Day. Otherwise, I can think of no reason to use it during Day rather than Night, so the role would be poorly designed.

You guys are probably right that it would be a wiser play to wait. Using it on a guilty is a fantastic idea that didn't enter my mind. My thinking was, in the absence of such a guilty, it would become too much of a risk to use as we near the end of the game, for exactly the reasoning you provided, mentosman.

I'm still down with a Rajam target though.