[WA] Perth Smash Thread

[MTGod]

You can never have enough Bair with GaW, however he does have so many other useful attacks that you can use to mix-up as Bair is punishable when predicted. Nair (fishbowl) is AMAZING if the opponent's are slightly above you or on large/heavy characters, also a good option to follow up out of UpB. If they are too far above you, spam Uair - hitting with the windbox (which extends vertically up the screen) refreshes your move IIRC. Dair as well is good as you can control horizontal momentum easily to make the move safer yada yada yada... Pretty much all of GaW moves are amazing, it's just about mixing them up

Trav knows more about GaW than me though, so his advice would be more credible

 

[Braddles]

Your credibility is well adequate =D I don't think i'll be playing him at the next tournie, but maybe.. Could anyone post a link to the current tier listings? cheers

 

[MTGod]

GaW's Chair is a great kill move

 

[Pete278]

Don't mock the poor child.

 

[MTGod]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yIPwu1zPgI

Chairs win games.

 

[Technodeath]

Yeah Brad, I've talked to Jake over steam. I'll be heading over to his place tomorrow afternoon. C:


YEHUZ - Post count is in numerical order.

JUSTICE PREVAILS.

 

[Leisha]

Fishbowl is good for juggling with g&w, and stupidly annoying tooo

 

[Vlade]

I think bair is a bad move if the opponent knows how to deal with it, there are frames when it's inactive and most of the top tier cast can shield drop jab or something during those frames

 

[Zero]

I think bair is a bad move if the opponent knows how to deal with it, there are frames when it's inactive and most of the top tier cast can shield drop jab or something during those frames

This is bull****.

Back Aerial
Frame Breakdown:
• 1-9 Startup
• 10-11 Hitbox out
• 13-14 Hitbox out
• 16-17 Hitbox out
• 19-20 Hitbox out
• 22-23 Hitbox out
• 24-39 Aerial cooldown

Shield drop is 7 frames. Unless you perfect shield, let go instantly, and have a 1 frame jab (no one in top tier), that's impossible.

If a GnW spaces it right at the tip, it's going to be incredibly hard to deal with on shield.

 

[Vlade]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYfunwOt9FU

 

[Zero]

First uploader comment.

Unfortunately, this video is incredibly misleading for a couple of reasons. First off, spacing was practically non-existent, and the turtle was commonly performed point blank in these examples. Also, there was literally no timing variation in when the turtle was executed. It was practically always done immediately out of a full hop. Lastly, and likely most importantly, air control during the aerial was not shown. Turtle is good. It was still an informative and good video, despite all this.

There was not one bair in that video spaced at max range.

 

[Vlade]

Still doesn't mean you can't SDI it and punish it

 

[swordsaint]

Being spaced doesn't mean ****

it still goes inactive before it hits the ground and is ****ing easy to hit

Falco ***** it on shield even when it is spaced.

it is so

easy

to punish.

 

[Vlade]

Thank you scoot, I thought it seemed plausible that a spaced bair wouldn't be punishable but I suppose falco's jab is crazy good

 

[Zero]

Being spaced doesn't mean ****

it still goes inactive before it hits the ground and is ****ing easy to hit

Falco ***** it on shield even when it is spaced.

it is so

easy

to punish.

You have heard of fast falling, right? To eliminate the 15 frames of cooldown? Basic AT.

Just because ZSS can punish grounded shuttle loop on shield doesn't make grounded shuttle loop an amazing move.

Still doesn't mean you can't SDI it and punish it

True.

 

[Technodeath]

I havent looked into it at all, but would Snake have anything like this?

The ability to interrupt the inactive part of Bair?

or is he too slow?

 

[Zero]

I bet you could shield drop ftilt that **** because Snake's ****ing dumb like that.

 

[Technodeath]

or is he too slow?

SONIC JOKE RIGHT HERE. TAKE THE BAIT.. k

 

[MTGod]

Snake can just have a grenade I believe... ****ing grenades...

SO ANYWAY gonna see if Warren's back in Perth tomorrow; try and get him to commit to two tourneys a month over the holidays :D We -may- have to have back to back tourneys depending on the Church's availabilities - is everyone okay with this?

 

[Vlade]

Depends if I can get a job or not, might be a bit of a strain on my wallet eventually

 

[swordsaint]

i saw a guy identical to hater today

****

 

[MTGod]

Alister, you will probably be able to afford it due to your placings I'm sure we'll get an increase in numbers for the holidays...

Daaaaamn why do I have to work to earn moneeeyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!?!?!?!

 

[Vlade]

2nd place usually doesn't win enough, when I come 2nd in doubles and singles I barely break even with a turnout of like 16

 

[MTGod]

I have faith that we will get more than 16 ^^ I reckon we'll be averaging 20 people.

 

[Marteh]

i saw a guy identical to hater today

****

Jesse was in Syndey? That guy gets around

 

[MTGod]

You spelled Cindy wrong HAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW FUNNY GAI

 

[Pete278]

I have faith that we will get more than 16 ^^ I reckon we'll be averaging 20 people.

Did you see the turnout for the last tournament?

 

[Technodeath]

There was a record of 50 people there.

 

[Marteh]

You spelled Cindy wrong HAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW FUNNY GAI

I lol'd

Spoiler

10 chars

 

[MTGod]

Did you see the turnout for the last tournament?

Exams being the major contributing factor to such a turnout, and hence why we aren't having any tournaments in November. Come December we should have (most of) the entire scene involved, plus it's our best chance for new recruits given that there will be students who have a lot of free time to fill up all of a sudden. Chucking up some more posters in the city and also at other game stores in shopping centres would help, especially since we have an easier medium to advertise through than Smashboards (being Facebook).

 

[Fuzz]

hawhawhaw
I have one exam

 

[Vlade]

It should have been a Facebook group rather than a Facebook page imo

 

[Hater]

i saw a guy identical to hater today

****

God i really wish the govt hadn't used me that one time to make super soldiers

 

[MTGod]

It's all the same, Vlade, it's all the same

 

[Vlade]

Groups are much easier to check though since on the left of the home feed there isn't an option for facebook pages you've "liked"

Yeah I'm being nitpicky :S

 

[MTGod]

Don't you get updates from pages though? You only really want to check them when they're updated

And you can search for it in the top search bar.

 

[Braddles]

Well guys, im continuing to use G&W's Snapping Turtle so let it be punished!! Do we have a marth player in Perth?? Hes always been my alt, but im rly starting to play him a bit more, does he have a viable chain grab in some match-ups or no?
@Techno, yeh have fun at Jakes man, they've only just got back into it but you'll see they have potential =) Jake seems to hang around the lower tiers but link doesn't.. Are you the notorious smoke player on MK3?? I've heard legends, all the MK games there are mine, im a sub-zero player and shang tsung when im feeling classy for morph comboing =3 Next time im up we'll have a marathon of fun..
BTW, does anyone here own crash nitro cart for GC?? It is what Diddy Kong Racing was to MarioKart 64, BETTER.. It is insanely good, actually challenging for a racing game..
Anyway, peace out gangsters

 

[Marteh]

Well guys, im continuing to use G&W's Snapping Turtle so let it be punished!! Do we have a marth player in Perth?? Hes always been my alt, but im rly starting to play him a bit more, does he have a viable chain grab in some match-ups or no?

Marth really lacks Chain grabs, only exception is Falco who he can chain grab to around 26% into a tipper F Smash

At 0% one of Marth's grab's can be thrown into a tipper F-Smash (Forward throw or Down throw depends on the character) to get around 25% although don't go looking for this as you will be punished

He's got a beast grab release on Ness and Lucas where one grab can equal death if the Ness and Lucas don't know how to avoid it (I'm not sure myself)

On MetaKnight he has a grab release into fair, dash attack or dolphin slash. (He needs something decent against this prick)

And on Wario a grab release can lead to a Up Smash, Dolphin Slash, Uair or a tipper Fair from memory

 

[Technodeath]

and a stutter step reverse tipper fsmash, on Wario, for Marth, out of grab release C:


EDIT: ****, double post. Mah bad.

 

[Technodeath]

@Techno, yeh have fun at Jakes man, they've only just got back into it but you'll see they have potential =) Jake seems to hang around the lower tiers but link doesn't.. Are you the notorious smoke player on MK3?? I've heard legends, all the MK games there are mine, im a sub-zero player and shang tsung when im feeling classy for morph comboing =3 Next time im up we'll have a marathon of fun..

Yeah, I went around yesterday afternoon. Was pretty beastly fun.
I won most of, if not all the 1v1 matches, but only lost on free for alls.
Since Zeb was also there.

I noticed that Jake mainly plays Olimar and ZSS, and that Link plays Toon Link, and a couple of others.. He seems to jump around a little. They however, both do have a lot of potential, so it'll be good to see how they turn out. Noticing how good they are at other games, they should be able to beast this pretty soon.

As far as the MK3 rumors go.. They're all false I've practically never played it, well I have.. But I don't play it at all. I don't even know who I like, and I don't know how the buttons work in the game, so eh.. I can give it a shot though. and I do look forward to this marathon of fun.

Edit: Killer Instinct on the SNES for best fighter.

Do you know when you'll be up next, bro?