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this is obviously a legal issue for gimr and not something he wants to do
This.
you really think gimr, the guy who provides free high quality streams and vods had a plan to exploit the pm community by "taking their money" and then "turning his back"
That doesn't change the fact that it IS what happened, though.
That's a lot of ifs, buts and could ofs and not a lot of actual facts. Until I hear direct quotes from Nintendo I'm not buying any of it.
What happens when that streamer gets popular and Nintendo gets the legal threats out against them. I don't know what PM can do at this point.
And I am not going to outright say that VGBootCamp is doing this solely for monetary gain and selling out. Because we don't know what outside of what GimR stated. This entire issue is whole can of ifs, buts, could ofs and what ifs with little actual facts to base our assumptions on. I am just not willing to jump the gun on this point. Doing so and calling GimR a sell out without actual information/facts is disrespecting what he built and the effort he put into the PM and Smash Community IMO. It's like everything they did for the PM community up this point has turned to **** due to their decision and, to me, that is really horrible.
VGBootCamp got on Nintendo's radar because it became big enough to maybe become a problem. VGBootCamp saw this as a potential legal issue and took measures to avoid this (if this is to be believed).
Let them threaten, until nintendo does something it means nothing. If they do something against PM then the entire community can take a dump on nintendo similar to how it was when they almost refused evo the right to stream melee.
GimR started a campaign to reach 500+ subscribers [or get 500 more subs idk] on his Twitch channel so he could quit his day job and stream full time
Hey guys,
As you might have noticed, we've been toning down our Project M coverage in recent months. With the release of Smash 4 and the continued revitalization of the Melee scene, there are more content opportunities now than ever. These recent opportunities have vaulted VGBC into the spotlight, but in some ways this has come at a cost.
As it stands now, Project M exists in a legal gray area. Project M's uncertain legality has the potential to put the other goals of VGBC for the wider Smash community in jeopardy. We are working on securing partnerships that will allow us to grow the community faster than ever before with new shows, tournaments, and other content. 2015 will be another crazy year for Smash, and as a small business with limited resources, it's too risky to invest a significant portion of our time and money into a game that could damage our business with a copyright strike at any time.
VGBC will no longer be streaming Project M
The more visible PM becomes, and the closer VGBC is associated with PM, the higher the likelihood we face more direct legal action. Given this, we will no longer be streaming PM content for the foreseeable future.We will also be taking down our PM content from YouTube. Don't worry - these videos will not be destroyed. We are working on an arrangement that will see them relocated to a new home.
In regards to the #FreeGimR movement, we do understand that a large portion of our initial #FreeGimR subs were not only fans of VGBC, but fans of Project M. If you are a sub, please check your private messages. We will be sending you a personal message soon.
We would like to thank the PMDT for an amazing relationship and for working so closely with us over the past two years. It's rare and exciting to work with people who are as passionate about Smash as we are. Making a living creating content around a game we've loved for well over a decade has been an incredible and humbling experience. This is the first time we've had to make such a hard decision, but in order to continue doing what we love we have to protect ourselves legally.
- Calvin “GimR” Lofton
PS: We were not presented with any Project M termination contract from Team Apex. That rumor is unfounded and has no part in our decision to discontinue Project M streaming and content.
It's not like a huge portion of his money and success came from the PM community or anything. Unlike the Smash 4 community, who had Nintendo practically pay the game's way into the scene, the PM community had to grow on it's own. I don't want to hear anything about being spoiled from a part of the Smash 4 community.
What ridiculous, asinine nonsense.
So much in support of this statement. It's a real shame that GimR is acting in such an uncharacteristic way, but the Smash community is far bigger than VGBC, Nintendo, or the heavens themselves. If you put a wall in our way, we'll just have to Puff dair our way through it! That's just the way team Dairantou Sumasshu Burazaazu does things! Just who the hell do you think we are!?
On their site they always have a listing of streams showing PM. tourneylocator would be the next biggest stream that shows PM.Well, where do i watch PM now?
