Smash 3DS Update 1.0.4 Released!

[Rakurai]

Wario momentum glitch is gone, and the ledge rocket trick for Villager now deals normal damage instead of KOing people at around 40%.

 

[Babali Boon]

Wario momentum glitch is gone

RIP Wectoring.

 

[GreenFlame]

RIP Wectoring.

gone 3 soon

Wasn't it kind of OP though?

 

[Tobi_Whatever]

gone 3 soon

Wasn't it kind of OP though?

It was funny as hell though, which is way more important obviously.

 

[ChikoLad]

So it turns out Luma's ability to attack while Rosalina is being grabbed has not been removed at all, or even changed. Works just the same as before.

 

[[TSON]]

I could be wrong, but last patch didn't using PK fire out of a double jump keep a lot of your upward momentum? This patch makes it work like Brawl again.

 

[Lionman]

The Rage Effect is removed

(Tested in Training, needs to be confirmed)

BTW i noticed it was harder for me to Kill with Falcon, probably because this

 

[Deleted member]

Because it hasn't been mentioned yet, Bowsercide now kills Bowser first.

 

[vaanrose]

The Rage Effect is removed

(Tested in Training, needs to be confirmed)

BTW i noticed it was harder for me to land a Kill with Falcon, probably because this

The Rage effect never worked in training mode.

 

[[TSON]]

VILLAGER'S GRAB GOT SPED UP SO MUCH???? WTF

 

[Lionman]

The Rage effect never worked in training mode.

Fine, so we can unconfirm that

 

[[TSON]]

Peach Turnip farm glitch still works

 

[KuroganeHammer]

I have access to 1.0.3 and 1.0.4 so I can confirm/deny patch changes if needed.

Where is @SamuraiPanda's patch topic

 

[Deleted member]

It looks like the only change to TL was his BLC being removed. He still can't even L bomb drop without the hookshot coming out, unlike the Wii U version. His utilt also does 6% in the Wii U version, but still does only 5% on the 1.0.4 update for the 3DS, and his jab does 9% on 1.0.4 but 10% on the Wii U. This is a sad day for TL mains.

 

[Baskerville]

Are there any other changes to Rosa minus the ones we already know?

 

[GreenFlame]

I have access to 1.0.3 and 1.0.4 so I can confirm/deny patch changes if needed.

I do as well, so I can do the same.

 

[ChikoLad]

Are there any other changes to Rosa minus the ones we already know?

@icraq believes she might have had some damage and knockback reductions on one or two attacks, but is unsure. I still have 1.0.3, so I will be testing that kind of thing.

My brother will surely download 1.0.4 before I get home, so I may refrain from getting it myself and instead compare stuff for the Rosalina boards.

 

[KuroganeHammer]

VILLAGER'S GRAB GOT SPED UP SO MUCH???? WTF

it didnt, just tested it

Edit: palutena lightweight and super speed momentum glitch still in

 

[Spirst]

it didnt, just tested it

Cue all the incoming placebo effect posts.

 

[KuroganeHammer]

LUMAS RECALL SPEED HAS BEEN INCREASED DRAMATICALLY WHEN SEPERATED FROM ROSALINA

 

[Deleted member]

Can someone confirm or deny if TL's bair and dair have had their landing lag decreased? I highly doubt it's true, but I've heard it enough times that I think it's worth looking into if anyone has both versions to check with.

 

[VivaReverie]

I got both versions, ask for specific things and I'll try testing them out

 

[KuroganeHammer]

going to play with zelda and see if she got any love

(sry for the twitter-esque posts im just rly excited)

 

[JmacAttack]

The Rage Effect is removed

(Tested in Training, needs to be confirmed)

BTW i noticed it was harder for me to Kill with Falcon, probably because this

Rage and Move Staling don't show up in Training Mode. Training uses base knockback at all times.

 

[Deleted member]

Seems like Mac's jab deals less damage, and many of Shulk's moves deal slightly more damage now. Can anyone confirm?

 

[VivaReverie]

Seems like Mac's jab deals less damage, and many of Shulk's moves deal slightly more damage now. Can anyone confirm?

Not my video, but this confirms Shulk buff

 

[Kage Me]

So it turns out Luma's ability to attack while Rosalina is being grabbed has not been removed at all, or even changed. Works just the same as before.

Have you tried it with command grabs as well?

 

[Deleted member]

I got both versions, ask for specific things and I'll try testing them out

Can you please check if TL's bair and dair have less landing lag? People keep saying they seem to have less landing lag, so I want to know if this is true or not.

 

[Lamato]

Can someone confirm or deny if TL's bair and dair have had their landing lag decreased? I highly doubt it's true, but I've heard it enough times that I think it's worth looking into if anyone has both versions to check with.

Still functions the same from what I tested.

 

[ChikoLad]

Have you tried it with command grabs as well?

They still work from what I have heard, but they were always harder to hit people out of.

 

[KERO]

Anyone able to test if there's a difference in Greninja's standing grab range?

 

[Deleted member]

I could just be going crazy but Pac-Man seems all-around faster, and his U-air seems to lift him up a bit now. Can anyone confirm?
EDIT: His grab seems a tad faster too.

 

[Tobi_Whatever]

I really hate that Ninty doesn't release patch notes. There is no real reason not to.

 

[KuroganeHammer]

Seems like Mac's jab deals less damage, and many of Shulk's moves deal slightly more damage now. Can anyone confirm?

jab does ~2% more damage
usmash does ~1% more
dsmash does ~1% more
dtilt does about 1% more
ftilt does about 1% more
fsmash does about 1% more
uair does like 2 to 3% more

actually i might as well list the ones that just do more:

1%
dair
bair
air slash
nair
utilt
dash attack
fthrow
bthrow
uthrow
dthrow

Unchanged:

backslash

EDIT

LITTLE MAC JAB NERFED BY ABOUT 30% DAMAGE

32 HITS OF JAB = 27% DAMAGE

PATCH 1.0.3 20 HITS OF JAB = 26% DAMAGE

 

[Xandsuken]

Since nobody seems to have posted about Ike Yet.

Several Changes to Ike.

Movement Speed Increased.
Jump Distance Increased.
F-Air significantly faster.
N-Air Notably Faster.
D-tilt and F-tilt reduced after attack delay.

 

[VivaReverie]

Can you please check if TL's bair and dair have less landing lag? People keep saying they seem to have less landing lag, so I want to know if this is true or not.

Okay 3DSes set up, can test this.
No, neither his dair or bair has changed in recovery time.

 

[Deadlybroth]

Can someone test Leaf Shield startup times for Megaman?
Edit: I'm not sure if his u-air was actually changed, can someone test this? His pellets are the same range and nair sweetspot does 4% and jab sweetspot does 3%, can someone test if this was actually changed as well?

 

[VivaReverie]

I could just be going crazy but Pac-Man seems all-around faster, and his U-air seems to lift him up a bit now. Can anyone confirm?
EDIT: His grab seems a tad faster too.

Looks like that's a placebo, everything is unchanged as far as I can see. His uair lifted him slightly originally too.

 

[KuroganeHammer]

Since nobody seems to have posted about Ike Yet.

Several Changes to Ike.

Movement Speed Increased.
Jump Distance Increased.
F-Air significantly faster.
N-Air Notably Faster.
D-tilt and F-tilt reduced after attack delay.

He seems a tad faster and fair/nair are defs faster so I can confirm those ones

 

[2k6]

So ok here tried the new patch of course got to use my main first,
Olimar white pikmin throw can now deal 40%! YES 40%! to anyone at 0%
at 1.0.3 it only deals 20%. I'm so happy really