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Smash 3DS Update 1.0.4 Released!

Rakurai

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The fact that it's the first update that's preventing replays from older builds of the game from working strongly implies that it is actually changing the characters in some way.

It's also the first time "game balance" is mentioned in the patch notes.
 
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Sakurai tweeted it out here. English notes were distributed via SpotPass and can be viewed by pressing Y on the Smash 3DS main menu.
"We are planning to release the next patch (Ver. 1.0.4) within the month.
This patch will adjust the game balance by refining the strengths of some fighters. It also includes various other gameplay fixes. Please see the notices on the next page."
and then...
"[NOTICES] -Local Wireless will not work if a player who has updated to 1.0.4 tries to battle a player with an older version.
-Receiving patch 1.0.4 will disable playback of replays saved using older versions.
-This patch is required for online play." from the main menu alert on Smash 3DS.
edit: a similar thread with the Japanese patch language was recently posted without the twitter link, but if mods feel the threads are too similar y'all can take mine down.

http://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/2lxzo0/in_case_anyone_is_curious_patch_104_was_just/
 

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I have a feeling Wario is probably to lose his momentum glitch, but if they make it so you can grab the bike parts like the tip says you can, it's a worthwhile trade-off.
 

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I don't think it's released, but it is coming out this month.
 

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So I guess this confirms that the Wii-U release is legitimately patched.
 

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I was thinking: Oh it's just patching Amiibo support in.

After I saw replays being disabled this HAS to be a balance patch.
 

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The fact that it's the first update that's preventing replays from older builds of the game from working strongly implies that it is actually changing the characters in some way.
It's also the first time "game balance" is mentioned in the patch notes.
good thing i read this, even if there is no character changes, if my old replays wont work i better make a montage and upload them all before this new patch does become available, i am curious i wonder what is going to be changed? if anything at all
thanks for the heads up though
 

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here's hoping that they make custom moves reasonable to get
 

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https://twitter.com/Nintendo/status/532052324957433856

"We are planning to release the next patch (Ver. 1.0.4) within the month.

This patch will adjust the game balance by refining the strengths of some fighters. It also includes various other gameplay fixes. Please see the notices on the next page."

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/3ds/axcj/update/index.html

"[NOTICES]

-Local Wireless will not work if a player who has updated to 1.0.4 tries to battle a player with an older version.

-Receiving patch 1.0.4 will disable playback of replays saved using older versions.

-This patch is required for online play." from the main menu alert on Smash 3DS."
 

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This patch will adjust the game balance by refining the strengths of some fighters. It also includes various other gameplay fixes. Please see the notices on the next page."
*it's happening gif*

Very interested in seeing who gets nerfed/buffed.

(Cancelable Flare Blitz PLZ Sakurai) :006::006::006:
 

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https://twitter.com/Nintendo/status/532052324957433856

"We are planning to release the next patch (Ver. 1.0.4) within the month.

This patch will adjust the game balance by refining the strengths of some fighters. It also includes various other gameplay fixes. Please see the notices on the next page."

and then...

"[NOTICES]

-Local Wireless will not work if a player who has updated to 1.0.4 tries to battle a player with an older version.

-Receiving patch 1.0.4 will disable playback of replays saved using older versions.

-This patch is required for online play." from the main menu alert on Smash 3DS."
Oh my, balance patches are real?

 

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I swear to god if sheik gets nerfed due to all the scrubs complaining about her i'm foing to rage quit. sakurai already ruined marth and falco for me as is and i can't tolerate getting another character i actually enjoy immensely trashed again
 

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^rosalina does not need nerfs, people just need to learn to deal with her gimmick and stop ********. so tired of this ****. people like ganon, mk, and falco just need buffs and tools to deal with stuff better.
 

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^rosalina does not need nerfs, people just need to learn to deal with her gimmick and stop *****ing. so tired of this ****. people like ganon, mk, and falco just need buffs and tools to deal with stuff better.
You have a point. Though, does MK need buffing? But Dorf and Falco could need some buffing, yes.
 

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^rosalina does not need nerfs, people just need to learn to deal with her gimmick and stop *****ing. so tired of this ****. people like ganon, mk, and falco just need buffs and tools to deal with stuff better.
Friend. That's not how balance works. At least, not if you don't want the game growing out of hand. Please calm down with your swearing.

Rosalina's "gimmick," while powerful, would not be obnoxious if she didn't have such great properties on a lot of her moves and good system mechanics.

This announcement is going to make a large number of people happy and excited. Let them have their day. You don't need to rain on people's parade.
 

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^rosalina does not need nerfs, people just need to learn to deal with her gimmick and stop *****ing. so tired of this ****. people like ganon, mk, and falco just need buffs and tools to deal with stuff better.
No matter what changes the developers make there will always be a group of people that end up mad over "x" character not receiving nerfs/buffs.

That's the rough part about balance patches... You really can't please everyone.

Lets just hope these are changes for the better. No need to get mad over someone's opinion especially considering this is out of our hands at this point.
 

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Please don't **** everything up mr. Sakurai.
Also gravity and running momentum.
 

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Please, please let there be a decrease in Ike's attack end lag and increase the range on Lucario's neutral air from craptastic to at least decent! Its visuals lies so much!
 
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Really wondering what's going to happen to Greninja and Duck Hunt. I'm going to have nightmares of Greninja's hydro pump windbox being reduced.
 

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You have a point. Though, does MK need buffing? But Dorf and Falco could need some buffing, yes.
MK currently seems to have very little going for him with very little range, damage, and kill power. if he just had a bit more in one of those aspects(IMO, i'd say range is his big issue especially due to having criminally mismatched animations to his hitboxes at the moment) he'd be decent atleast but right now it feels like playing as MK leaves one at a very significant disadvantage against most characters. on another note i hope megaman's rush coil out of hit stun glitch/exploit gets fixed at least and that maybe rolls will get a frame or two of motre vulnerability.
@ Spirst Spirst : you and me both. i'm worried about the ninjas and duckhunt especially due to bad players whining about them a ton and the dev team possibly listening. hopefully sakurai doesn't mess things up.
 
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I hear Yoshi's glitches were cleared up for the Wii U version, which is what I assume this is going to coincide with.
That's fine tbh. Even tho it's already known, it's not like it was used often in a match while the custom move one would be a bannable offense in tournaments for stalling.
 

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I think they will patch the whole Greninja down air side b thing, the megaman up-b get out of jail free card, the yoshi glitch stuff and unfortunately I think the Wario flying shenigans will end with this patch.
 

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I think they will patch the whole Greninja down air side b thing, the megaman up-b get out of jail free card, the yoshi glitch stuff and unfortunately I think the Wario flying shenigans will end with this patch.
Wario's Momentum glitch is gone in the WiiU version, chances are this patch is gonna take that out as well.
 

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Remember guys: a balance patch this early means things will be changed multiple times from here on out, so even if you are disappointed with some of the changes they can be rebalanced.

That being said, I'm super excited to see what changes are in store! I trust the balancing team as the first version is already the most balanced official Smash roster to date.
 

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It'd surprise me if there were any balance patches besides fixing glitched & unintended stuff. But this sure is exciting.
 

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Coming from Mario Kart 8 the chances of them actually balancing or removing unintended mechanics are moot. They'll probably fix the obvious glitches like warping but that's about it.
 

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To me, the fact that Sakurai says the patch includes 'game balancing' and 'some fixes' separately indicates that more than glitches will be changed. We'll just have to wait and see!
 
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I wonder if they found Meta Knight's sword yet?
 
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as much as i am excited to hear this, i am going to remain open-minded and optimistic until this patch comes out. i definitly do predict most of the glitches being gone.
 

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Please nerf Lucario, please nerf Lucario, please nerf Lucario, please nerf Lucario, please nerf Lucario, please nerf Lucario.
 

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Ooooh, game balances? I wonder if the Down B lag cancel is still going be in.
Either way, I would like to see some buffs for Pikachu.
 
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