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Well barely popular doesn't mean much when it's Capcom's best selling franchise.
Facepalm, I'm a ** idiot for never learning to be specific.
Too lazy to reply to every single point individually so I'll reply to them all at once. Spoiler since its a bit long.
and . gets his aura boost after taking enough damage instantly and keeps it for the rest of the stock. are based on a meter. You could still have 0% limit or no Arsene even if you're at 200% and 2 stocks behind. The limit/Arsene is a tool not a crutch. who can buff themselves almost instantly with very little downsides just with a press of a button. down special kills reliably at low percents, can be comboed into, has no downsides to holding on to it and doesn't even lose charge between stocks. Even if you think limit and arsene is busted you have to admit it could have been much worst. only has one projectile and moves has low range even with Arsene) limit and counter/reflect leaves him open to grabs)limit or use recovery with Arsene which is more predictable and has no hitbox) the charge on their meter doesn't carry over between stocks )
Strictly my opinion, but there are a few characters in Smash where I often question their inclusion. Don't get me wrong, I still like these characters but I can't help but raise an eyebrow every time I see them.
- I'd rather have Dante to be honest, but Bayo's alright. An odd choice in my opinion, but since Bayonetta's games are exclusive to Nintendo, I now understand why, but I just can't help it. - I guess it's just me, but I often forget that Corrin is in this game. They're a unique FE character, but I think that the uniqueness wasn't enough for me to care about them. - Lucina's just another Marth clone i.e. Fem. Marth. She's really no different than Marth at face value. - Palutena is mostly waifu bait. I still think so now, though now her moveset is better in Ultimate than she was in Smash 4. - By far the oddest and strangest choice. P. Plant is a joke character to be played for kicks and giggles. - I like DP a lot more than I like Pit in both gameplay and personality, but I sometimes do think that he wasn't necessary. He's just a carbon copy of Pit, except he's slightly stronger.
If I remember correctly, Lucina was originally going to be an alt costume of Marth, however they got their own slot because Sakurai was messing around with the damage location differentiations (Marth has tip damage, Lucina doesn't), so therefore they were unique, and got their own slot. Lucina's inclusion does not take away the chances of having another character join the roster. There were no slots taken away when Lucina was added. When it comes down to it, two people playing Smash just select created movesets to go against each other with. There might be a ton of swordfighters, but only one Duck Hunt.
I never implied they needed to be nerfed. I rather them buff the rest of the cast who needs the buffs in specific areas that help them in situations like this.
At that point the distinction is the Joker/Cloud player is simply much worse than their opponent and has nothing to do with that attack. If it helps you out in bad situations, it's a crutch. That can't be denied. I'm not complaining about it being a crutch (on the fundamental level), I'm complaining that you can still:I didn't forget, I just wanted to draw the distinction between
I'm really waiting on you to get back to that.If they were straight up buffs i would also agree but they both have critical weaknesses (I'll get to those later) that could undermine the buffs, unlike
it's not like they have ridiculous offstage games, aerial pressure moves or combo strings that have.I don't deny that it's easier for them to get a cheesy ko, I'm just arguing it's not as bad as people think.For example
Except that Waft takes forever to build up and almost never comes out until the second or third stock, and Wario can legit kill himself off of the top blast zone from the velocity of it. And it leaves him super open to attack if it....whiffs (get it?....I'll see myself out).
And quote me where I said that Limit or Arsene are busted or overpowered.
- Throwing out projectiles or disjoints (
- Zoning in general (again time limit is very short so stalling out the match in any way will very effective.)
This is more on the part of the player falling for the bait and not a disadvantage of the move itself.Baiting out special moves (Using specials drains
This....is something you can use against every attack in the game.
Again, these are things you can use against every fighter in the game. They're not disadvantages of the moves in question.
- Forcing them off stage (forces them to waste
- Gimping or spiking them while they recover (which is surprisingly easy once you know the frame data)
- Killing them (funny enough this is the most effective method since unlike
Off topic, shout out from me as well. He's the reason I started playing Cloud in the first place (back in Smash 4)
Well you clearly haven't seen BrawlFan1's video on Mimikyu...
Indeed, after all they made a pretty unique and interesting to watch move-pool for
.I’m not saying that you are wrong, but that’s not how it works.Well you clearly haven't seen BrawlFan1's video on Mimikyu...
Indeed, after all they made a pretty unique and interesting to watch move-pool for
A character who's most well know for biting and popping out of pipes none of the less.
Anyway...
I'd rather see Lucy nerfed to Marth's level then vice-versa.
Personally, they're not fun to fight and Marcina in-general have been top tier long enough.
I disagree, Marth functions well enough as a fighter.
Yeah that's why it's unpopular dude.
Simple, Lucy is slightly more rewarding and much easier to play.
That's not really the case, Pichu and Wolf are SIGNIFICANTLY different from their counterparts whereas Lucina could easily by described as Easy Marth by design. The idea is that her moves are stronger than Marth's sourspots but weaker than his sweetspots, which in turn means Lucina doesn't have to space nearly as much to secure the stock or deal the most damage with combos. Wolf and Pichu however are vastly different
Alright, I'm not interested in discussing this "Marth is bad in Ultimate" topic anymore since it's not going anywhere, plus it wasn't even the main point of my first post to begin with.
I misunderstood it, my bad. Just focused on that one point
Dash Attack needs a form of super armor similar to 's or maybe tough guy. should have gotten a Louie echo fighter. That or Louie over . needs a buff because I don't really want to play as the BotW version. I would much prefer and/or . What can I say? I'm an OoT guy. has some cool alts but I really would've liked palette swaps based off of the members of the Phantom Thieves besides Akechi. should've had her Samus Returns design. is anime. I mean, they're all video game characters of Japanese origin, save for and .
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, I want more Fire Emblem characters in Smash.
I’d be better if there were no Akechi alt...just the others...cause **** Akechi❖ I'd prefer 2B over literally any other square enix rep.
❖ I still prefer 2B over literally any other square rep.
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There’s still a few well known Nintendo characters left...but it’s becoming slim as time goes by
Like what? The only characters who will sell dlc are pretty much series headliners. How many of those are left that the genpop will recognize?
Corrin still ended up selling in Smash 4 even though he was 6th character from a niche series and a game the entire western audience never even played at the time. Now imagine if we got some Nintendo characters people actually want.
We're not measuring the money going into our pockets. We're measuring the likelihood of inclusion based on the money that would go into Nintendo's pocket, which is absolutely a factor.
I'm not sure if fighter pass predictions necessarily count as opinions. I'm also not sure if some of these are unpopular. I'm getting less confident in the possibility of Dante or Steve being in Smash, and Erdrick being in Smash would be a wasted opportunity in my opinion. Since we already have 3 Capcom fighters I doubt we'll get a fourth. And Crash could be very lucrative and a great opportunity for a crossover, but I'm less sure he's a lock.
How is this Smash related.
Wait....what? Judging by the way your post was worded, you're implying that:
Absolutely. Every time the dev team has tried to balance heavies with new gimmicks it either ends up failing or working against them (like rage). The only way to find a balance for heavies' slowness and vulnerability to combos is to either give them more super armor or the Tough Guy Effect.❖
What's funny is that IIRC in Japan everything that is animated is considered to be anime, so when we say "too many anime characters" they might think of every fighter and the game and not just the "anime-style" ones.Nitpicky but technically every character in smash could classify as anime if
-Bandana Dee
and MAYBE (Animal Corssing Rep) (Another Pokemon) would be our only fighters.>Zelda
You got your answer, alongside characters from different series that were made into assist trophies instead (though they’d have to wait until the next game for another chance
They technically only have 3 characters when you think about it
Their argument was that FE has rotating protagonists and thus gets 7 fighters. Although Zelda also has 3 main characters that appear in almost every game, there are also rotating characters like ones that help out the player (Impa, the Champions, the Sages, etc.), one time villains (Yuga, Skull Kid, etc.), and other quirky characters (Tingle, Beetle, etc.). So I don't see why one logic can apply to Fire Emblem but not to Zelda.
People pull that argument because for whatever reason they are still convinced the FE part of the roster is bloated for reasons other than Sakurai's own bias.
Considering that even Sakurai was concerned about the number of FE reps when Corrin was suggested...
I’m not worried about how much money I make. I only bring it up because the potential anoint of money earned by a character is probably a factor in how THEY pick.
Let's be honest, Sakurai threw his staff under the bus to try and take some heat off himself that he'd knew he'd get. He has the final say, if he REALLY didn't want to add a new FE character then he'd tell them no and that'd be the end of it. I really have to wonder just how hard his staff had to convince a blatant FE fanboy to add a new character from it lol.
To be honest, out of all the new games coming out at that time, how many would have made an interesting smash character.
Marth was highly requested on Sakurai's Melee poll.
Maybe don't arbitrarily limit yourself to shill picks?
He did say that that was one of the reasons he picked Corrin. He wanted to do a character that came out around that time.
I mean if we got Skull Kid one could argue everything about Zelda was shill pick. Hell, the most speculated and popular Zelda newcomer choice for 4 was Ghirahim