tekkie
Smash Master
DDD's recovery is amazing. Why is he so low?
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Unofficial Recovery tier list V1.1
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Albert.
Smash Master
he can be edge-hoged Or if he has to crash to the stage then he might get hit out of it OR hit back out away from the stage, leaving him with no jumps and in a worse position
Albert.
Smash Master
Play a Pro Pit and then say that LOL
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If it were based on how professionals recover with them then the real list would go something like...
"Top Tier:
Everyone"
|:/
SSJ5Goku8932
Smash Lord
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I would like to see a penguin glide... @@
If he were able to i'd main him just for that.
Red Arremer
Smash Legend
Bowser has by all means no bad recovery. He is around the level of DK, actually, just with the difference that DK jumps a bit better and Bowser's Up B has invincibility frames, making it hard to gimp him. His horizontal recovery is actually amazing.
risemix
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Yeah. This list is all kinds of jacked.
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poekmon
Bowser's aerial movement is sexy.
B!squick
Smash Master
Lol, I don't know. I only play Yoshi casually.
GwJ
Smash Hero
I dunno. Except for it's speed, Marth's recovery isn't too good. It's predictable. Imagine Firefox but with no startup lag and faster. it's faster but still predictable as hell.
Cheapless Jared
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quote for the mother ****ing truth broesph
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Am I the only one who thinks that Zelda has a REALLY good recovery and that she should be higher? MUCH higher. B rank probably.
It isn't an easy recovery, but when you're used to it, you can almost always recover safely and well.
It isn't an easy recovery, but when you're used to it, you can almost always recover safely and well.
Ussi
Smash Legend
Zelda's recovery is not good. Its very limited and linear making it easy to intercept.
Pikachu should be above Wario at least.
And @ person who said ZSS has a better recovery than Pikachu: LOL, no. Pikachu covers way more distance. Pikachu also is harder to hit when recovering.
ZSS can be edge hogged and without dying in the process. It's just it hard to even get ZSS in the position that makes her recovery good.
Pikachu should be above Wario at least.
And @ person who said ZSS has a better recovery than Pikachu: LOL, no. Pikachu covers way more distance. Pikachu also is harder to hit when recovering.
ZSS can be edge hogged and without dying in the process. It's just it hard to even get ZSS in the position that makes her recovery good.
Minwu
Smash Journeyman
It has extremely high priority and invincibility on frames 1-5 with the attack coming out on frame 6. You can stall with sideb if you wanted to wear out the enemy's ledge invincibility.
Ussi
Smash Legend
Marth's recovery is better than Zelda's. In terms with gimpability. Marth is RISKY since failing results in getting stage spiked in some situations. And if someone TRIES to hit Marth, he can DS them away since it has considerable knockback to let Marth safety land/grab the ledge before retaliation.
Gamepro17
Smash Rookie
Sonic should be rank S
GwJ
Smash Hero
Only if S stands for Steak.
But I do agree that Sonic's is one of the best in terms of recovery, especially since the FD armpit means nothing to him as he can wall-jump and footstool if the edge is being hogged.
But I do agree that Sonic's is one of the best in terms of recovery, especially since the FD armpit means nothing to him as he can wall-jump and footstool if the edge is being hogged.
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poekmon
But why would you stagespike somebody who just failed to recover?
Ussi
Smash Legend
I mean failing to gimp as in the person tried to attack Marth to gimp him, but he got DS'd into the stage instead.
and some people like to show off and over kill by stage spiking someone who failed to recover.
and some people like to show off and over kill by stage spiking someone who failed to recover.
sonic 12111
Smash Journeyman
Luigi should be higher. Luigi has 1st jump, tornado, second jump and shroyuken for vertical recovery. and for horizontal he has that headbut thing.
Elyssa Xey Hexen
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It's for those reasons luigi is even at that point. The characters above him have better recovery. So luigi's place is fine.
Red Arremer
Smash Legend
Luigi's recovery is good, but he is okay where he is, since the characters above him cover more distance.
What I don't get is why Wario is not in S Tier, besides jumping, he has the bike, jumping off it, the corkscrew, and until he is taken so far to use it normally he has it already - the fart. After which he STILL could use the corkscrew. Wario's recovery is amazing.
And so is Sonic's.
FB Dj_Iskascribble
Frostbitten
i dont think jiggs should be 2nd because she only hase jumps to cover vertical distance. Horizontal she has just fine, she should be really high, but maybe not 2nd
Red Arremer
Smash Legend
lol yea.
Jiggs' aerial mobility is astounding, and so is her horizontal recovery with pound and UAir, but 2nd? I dunno.
Jiggs' aerial mobility is astounding, and so is her horizontal recovery with pound and UAir, but 2nd? I dunno.
SexTornado
Smash Journeyman
Pit is way too high. I've gimped pit players countless times. Jiggs has almost infinite horizontal recovery even without jumps due to her light weight she just floats and unlimited rising pounds. So I guess I agree with her placement.
Zylar
Smash Ace
Does PKNintendo even check here anymore? The OP was last updated in December... -.-
Ignatious
Smash Cadet
Both falco and Squirtle need to a tad bit higher. Seriously, how does DK have a better recovery than Falco when he doesn't even have any vertical options, and high horizontal save is both slower and has less distance than Falco's? How is it worse than Marth, who almost always is forced to recover vertically, along with giving the opponent plenty of time to grab the edge for an edge hog. One of Falco's weaknesses is his recovery, but even then, it's a lot better than people give him credit for.
MysticKenji
Smash Master
Probably not...
Brinzy
Godfather of the Crimean Mafia
Nevermind this, I changed my mind. Marth's recovery is better than Zelda's. The main difference here is speed. I think he should be just about Zelda, however.
Being able to teleport downward is also a very nice bonus, since she's gonna be moving downward towards the stage or the edge faster than pretty much everyone in most situations. All you have to worry about is the start-up, which takes simple DI away from the stage and using its long range to make it to the stage before your opponent gets back.
Marth's stall is better, but stalling is a very, very minor part of recovery for Marth, as it is for Zelda. The only thing that makes it better anyway is how fast Marth can move afterwards, which shouldn't matter because they should only do it when an opponent isn't in their face. If the opponent decides to wait for either character, all they have to do is watch for wherever Marth is and force an on-stage recovery or attempt to hit him (bad idea in most situations), but with Zelda, they could end up losing their advantage if they force the on-stage recovery but she does something like warp on a Battlefield platform, something that she's more likely to do thanks to the range of her recovery. They can attempt to hit her as well, but again, that's simple DIing from them and then warping right past them, something that isn't uncommon at all to Zelda's metagame. She is rarely in a situation where she can only recover from one spot - Marth is placed into that situation more often, and his is certainly more predictable than Zelda's.
I don't see high level Zeldas get gimped more often than high level Marths. If anything, I see them die from their recoveries equally, be it a misplaced angle or simply not being able to reach the stage from Marth.
I still say Zelda's recovery > Marth's.
This could all apply to Zelda, except you trade in having a fast start-up on a relatively safe move for being able to move from point A to point B completely safely, being able to move farther, and being able to move in multiple directions. Ok, so it's linear, but at least you get to choose from more than two directions to go with.
Being able to teleport downward is also a very nice bonus, since she's gonna be moving downward towards the stage or the edge faster than pretty much everyone in most situations. All you have to worry about is the start-up, which takes simple DI away from the stage and using its long range to make it to the stage before your opponent gets back.
Marth's stall is better, but stalling is a very, very minor part of recovery for Marth, as it is for Zelda. The only thing that makes it better anyway is how fast Marth can move afterwards, which shouldn't matter because they should only do it when an opponent isn't in their face. If the opponent decides to wait for either character, all they have to do is watch for wherever Marth is and force an on-stage recovery or attempt to hit him (bad idea in most situations), but with Zelda, they could end up losing their advantage if they force the on-stage recovery but she does something like warp on a Battlefield platform, something that she's more likely to do thanks to the range of her recovery. They can attempt to hit her as well, but again, that's simple DIing from them and then warping right past them, something that isn't uncommon at all to Zelda's metagame. She is rarely in a situation where she can only recover from one spot - Marth is placed into that situation more often, and his is certainly more predictable than Zelda's.
I don't see high level Zeldas get gimped more often than high level Marths. If anything, I see them die from their recoveries equally, be it a misplaced angle or simply not being able to reach the stage from Marth.
I still say Zelda's recovery > Marth's.
Cruncher93
Smash Cadet
Olimars recovery is better in terms of variety, since he kann throw a purple Pikmin to the edgeguarder and his Up-B lifts him up. He also can stagespike the edgeguarder easier than Ivysaur.
But Ivysaurs tether always has maximum range :s
(Sorry for bad english maybe)
But Ivysaurs tether always has maximum range :s
(Sorry for bad english maybe)
Gindler
Smash Champion
Good pits glide back, and he's so mobile while doing this he can be hard to predict. Oh and his glide attack covers impressive range, most pits will not be getting gimped much.
It really is Ivy ALWAYS has a way to knock people off the edge with razor leaf, I've gotten Oli's off the edge without a purple and that's never fun for them.
woody72691
Smash Ace
why is there a tier list for this, but who cares, i like where pit is, very nice.
