Unintended Consequences Mafia: The Saga Concludes

[DtJ S2n]

I'm okay with Nich because I don't like how similar his role name is to mine =/.
Who's the "non-clear pool," Gheb?
I'm sorry guys I just don't know what to think ._.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

We should look at how sold2 reacted to people saying hes clear

 

[Purple]

So true Macman.

 

[Evil Eye]

Macman and Sold2:

@Everyone else: I think it's been more than long enough since I first asked this question to actually answer it. Top two suspects, and why. Everyone. I don't care if you think you already said a bit, get it codified here with substantive backing. I'm tired of trying to constantly jump the batteries on this narcoleptic town.

And Gheb, what the hell makes you think we've seen the last of the nightkills? In what way would a thoroughly antitown indy with only one kill in a sixteen man game be balanced? Explain, because that's dangerous thinking you're putting forth.

 

[Nicholas1024]

I'm okay with Nich because I don't like how similar his role name is to mine =/.
Who's the "non-clear pool," Gheb?
I'm sorry guys I just don't know what to think ._.

What is your role name Sold2?

And why don't you have a problem with Virg, his role name is identical to mine and must also be similar to yours.

 

[DtJ S2n]

@Nich, my role name is Ordinary Civilian. Virg's was Vanilla Townie, and yours was Ordinary Citizen.

People have been saying I'm clear, or at least relatively townie, since I've got here. Explain to me how I've reacted to people calling me clear, Macman.

Sorry bout that EE. Number one suspect goes to Nich for having eerily similar role name to me, in general I haven't liked his arguments most of the game and imo the ones who claimed Vanilla or one of the Vig's are where to look for the Indy.

I'll post second pick later but I gotta get my thoughts straight.

 

[Purple]

ghebs the only one saying you're clear, and he only said it because of his census

 

[Nicholas1024]

@Nich, my role name is Ordinary Civilian. Virg's was Vanilla Townie, and yours was Ordinary Citizen.

Ack, I went back and checked, you're right. I got confused. Sorry about that.

 

[Purple]

I still think that we should get on that scamp train to victory.

now i will prove it.

unvote
vote : Scamp

he has been lurking, and the idea of two vig claims doesn't sit well with me.

 

[Purple]

but then that also kind of put macman in the lynch train to victory and justice.

man, and nich is legit just because.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

unvote

noones accusing you sold2. I'm saying we should look into that cuz itd be good material.

and get off my back EE I'll answer when I have an actual answer.

I don't see you doing anything with the answer you've gotten thus far.

 

[Purple]

because we're so nonscum-like =D

 

[DtJ S2n]

Kinda felt like you were accusing me Mac but w/e. If you wanna try and find something from that, go ahead, but I don't see the value in it.

I'm really frustrated with making a second pick. I've been going back and forth between Virg and Mac. I'm assuming the indy hasn't made a nKill so far and I don't know what to think without it. Wtf kind of indy is it anyways. I'm assuming it's not cult because that's dumb, and it doesn't look like serial killer/mad scientist/vote gatherer/any other dumb indy I've seen. It could be arsonist type, but I don't want to think it is. If anything, I'd say Mac just because I hate the claim he made Day 2.

 

[Purple]

He made the miller part of his claim d1, the poisoner section d2. All i have currently is Scamp is the 'only' person claiming vig out of the census group, while it is surely possible, I'd rather lynch him due to the fact he could say that that is his consequence, however be killing on the side.

Macman has been helping, however it feels he's once again becoming uninterested, we've been at a standstill all day, and generally aren't getting anywhere except for the few interesting PRs that we have (i find it hard to believe that both PRs other than EE and I are worthless). At this point I could go as far as to say Macman is clear, however like i said before, uninterested in this game; better yet uninterested with this day in particular.

Nicholas gives ideas honestly, as much as i see everyone wanting to lynch him, I will say that he has been trying much more than Virg. Virg is beginning to go under the radar after re-looking.

Gheb is census-taker, and hasn't led us 'entirely' wrong yet.

Sold2 while for whatever reason i haven't had much of a scumtell or town tell on you, i guess I will have to ISOread you.

I'm okay with lynches on Scamp, Virg, and to a lighter extent Nicholas until further notice. I'm sorry for my constant changes.

 

[Virgilijus]

Question: of Sold2 and Nich, who was the first to claim?

As much as I don't think Scamp is lying about his claim, there is no way that town can let some one with a claimed night kill go scott free. Same applies to Macman but, since Scamp is in the census I would lean towards him first.

As scatterbrained as Roxy is, I think he/she is town. I would like EE to comment more instead of asking questions.

In short, my lynch list would look like Scamp, Macman, Nich/Sold2. I'm pretty comfortable with everyone else at the moment.

 

[Purple]

it sounds like we have a general agreement on Scamp.

should we continue on it?

 

[Scamp]

Excuse me? I've been lurking how?

If clearing me as vig would help the town narrow down the suspects I would be more than happy to off myself at this point. I don't see how it would, though, other than having one less person to choose from.

 

[Purple]

You're a person who has killed.

While you say you no longer kill, there is still the possibility that you can or have been killing (SK). Hence why people can't shake, or Macman out of being in voting range.

 

[Scamp]

As much as I don't think Scamp is lying about his claim, there is no way that town can let some one with a claimed night kill go scott free. Same applies to Macman but, since Scamp is in the census I would lean towards him first.

I really don't have any defense for this because I knew claiming vig would put a giant target on my back even though I'd already been neutered. But do you think it would have been better for me to lie as a townie just to keep myself alive?

 

[Scamp]

Oh. Roxy, I thought you meant lurking as in posting as little as possible and just observing.

 

[Virgilijus]

Excuse me? I've been lurking how?

If clearing me as vig would help the town narrow down the suspects I would be more than happy to off myself at this point. I don't see how it would, though, other than having one less person to choose from.

If you are confirmed former vig, then that puts a big cloud over Macman and his one shot miller vig claim (since two town vigs is pretty far fethced. Granted this is unintended consequences mafia). I would lean towards him first but he's not in the census.

Also, can some one please answer my question: I don't have the energy to go back through 10 pages to find it

 

[#HBC | Mac]

I really don't wanna go down that road. (Either scamp or me.)

 

[Scamp]

Virg: Technically Nich claimed first, though Sold noted that Pierre breadcrumbed his role name way back when.

 

[DtJ S2n]

Remember the reason why we had a claim order was to catch anyone faking a claim, so they couldn't know what's safe or not beforehand. I find it odd that Nich claims his role name is nearly the same as mine. Perhaps the mod just wants to f with role claims, if you think so tell me. It's just that all the other vanilla claims were clearly unique.

 

[Purple]

Nich's the indy.

 

[Purple]

Maybe i should explain. I just caught on to something here, every vanilla townie name is in fact unique in some way. There being two people who are the same name should cause problems.

For starters, we know nicholas and sold2 have the same citizen name. So which one is real and which is not? I personally feel sold2 is the real townie, and the reason being is something that he couldn't have stopped.

Pierre breadcrumbled his role. Practically word for word.

So in a sense, Sold2 claimed his 'role' before Nich could ever have the opportunity. Nich in a sense is infact counter claiming Sold2.

Also i'm feeling Scamp is pretty town, due to his willingness to sacrifice and Macman's reluctancy to die for town's clearing.

 

[Nicholas1024]

Well, they aren't exactly the same. Ordinary citizen, ordinary civillian. But are you guys really going to assume the setup in Unintended consequences?

 

[Purple]

well ****, if you have different names then i got nothing ;/

 

[#HBC | Mac]

Maybe i should explain. I just caught on to something here, every vanilla townie name is in fact unique in some way. There being two people who are the same name should cause problems.

lol i said this years ago

still we shud stay away from meta

 

[#HBC | Mac]

ehh
vote: nich

i'm gonna reread and post something before the end of tomorrow
indyhunting will suck

 

[~ Gheb ~]

And Gheb, what the hell makes you think we've seen the last of the nightkills? In what way would a thoroughly antitown indy with only one kill in a sixteen man game be balanced? Explain, because that's dangerous thinking you're putting forth.

I think all mafiosi are dead by now.
Macman and Scamp both have killed somebody (or attempted to do so) and I don't think that there's a fourth player/fraction with an individual kill.

There are many indies that can win games without having any kills at all. Markers, cult or siblings are the examples that come to mind first. None of them can kill and all of them have to be the last remaining players.

Point is though that I think one of the claimed killers is indy.

ghebs the only one saying you're clear, and he only said it because of his census

Not true. I thought he was the governor.

Gheb is census-taker, and hasn't led us 'entirely' wrong yet.

Additionally we haven't encountered any other investigator except the Watcher. Do you think watcher would be the only town-alligned investigator? My role doesn't make a lot of sense for any other fraction than town.

 

[DtJ S2n]

ehh
vote: nich

i'm gonna reread and post something before the end of tomorrow
indyhunting will suck

Will suck? Do you not think Nich is the indy?

Gheb, explain Marker and Siblings for me. I've never heard of those.

Roxy, not making much sense up there. What I'm saying is look at the vanilla claims and confirmed roles till now.

Plain Old Townie
Regular Townsperson
Vanilla Townie
Ordinary Citizen
Ordinary Civilian

Does any pair of these stand out to you at all? I'll point out that other than Me and Nich's claims, Virg's claim and Chibo's role do clash a little, but "townie" is such a common term in comparison to "Ordinary C-word meaning townie."

 

[Evil Eye]

@Gheb: Then who killed Moronik?

 

[Purple]

Ordinary citizen is the oddball name

 

[Purple]

TPK was actually town, fatchu was scum. That only makes sense considering Evil eye looked at moronik and saw me and fatchu. He knows i was doc, and fatchu was stalker looking at moronik's role, since moronik was just a blue ,he wasn't important to kill


just thought i'd bring that up.

 

[Evil Eye]

Uh... no?

One of the two lynches on D2 was a town PR. I have no idea what a Matchmaker does, but it's a pretty likely, I think, that it was a visiting role.

It's obviously possible, and I see your logic, but we haven't had a single double-kill in this entire game. Furthermore, TPK fakeclaimed with a target that would be a bullseye draw for mafia, and was scummy for the entire game.

Also, why is Ordinary Citizen the odd one out? Why not Civilian?

 

[Purple]

Pierre said ordinary civilian far before this conversation has even happened. That's all i'm going off honestly.

 

[Nicholas1024]

Personally, I can't believe you guys are trying to lynch me based off of my role name. It's unintended consequences, for crying out loud! Not only are the role names not quite identical, but don't you think Kirby King might have put something like that in there specifically to mess with you guys?

 

[Purple]

Or you truly aren't that role? lol iunno

 

[Nicholas1024]

*sigh*

Roxy, you need to think things through more. This might be the worst justification for a lynch I have ever heard. Like it or not, I am that role.