Unintended Consequences Mafia: The Saga Concludes

[Purple]

Gheb, i'm sure i've asked you this question constantly, but I STILL even now don't feel that i've gotten a clear answer as to what with your census clears Sold2 besides for your own thoughts.

just noted something from d2

Macman (6): Scamp (n/a) , Fatchu (dead, potentially maf) , Virgilijus (n/a), The Paprika Killer (dead potentailly maf), KevinM (maf), Roxy (meee :D )

If macman's is not maf, we should check this potential lynch out.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

3/4 confirmed mafia being half of the lynch on me,

you all think they were willing to bandwagon me?

 

[Purple]

Why not? You're a strong player, I doubt they would ALL bus though.. ;x

 

[Purple]

On that note, I really don't think Mac is mafia, if i was mafia, and i knew macman was a strong player and he was on the verge of being lynched, i would've pressed that extra hard.

 

[Evil Eye]

Since I got newpaged:

Virg, who's your pick for the indy of who's left? Why?

@Everyone else: I think it's been more than long enough since I first asked this question to actually answer it. Top two suspects, and why. Everyone. I don't care if you think you already said a bit, get it codified here with substantive backing. I'm tired of trying to constantly jump the batteries on this narcoleptic town.

 

[Nicholas1024]

My top picks are Macman and Scamp. I'm just not buying that we might have 2 vigs. Macman's my first choice, due to his QL pushing, his hardcore lurking earlier on, and his way-too-convenient claim.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

i push quicklynches all the time

even more so when i'm town, i don't think i've even ever pushed one as scum. Pretty sure you know this nick

 

[Purple]

nich, explain scamp.

 

[Scamp]

My top two choices are Nick and Macman, but I don't think we should be going after people not on the census right now so instead of Macman I'll take Virg.

I've been suspicious of Macman pretty much the entire game, and I'm still suspicious of him now. However, the proper play right now in my opinion is to find the indy listed in Gheb's census. However, Mac says stuff like this...

i push quicklynches all the time

even more so when i'm town, i don't think i've even ever pushed one as scum. Pretty sure you know this nick

...and I just want to lynch him. It's like he played all those other games of mafia just to set himself up for this one. And did he push any quicklynches in this game before me right now? I'd need to check, but I'm thinking no because I remember him doing nothing for most of the game.


I've had a bad vibe about Nick for a long time, I don't think that's any secret. And today I really don't like how he's trying to push the lynch to the people not on the census.

As for Virg, I honestly don't have any substantial backing to show he's anti-town. It's really more of a gut feeling. But I was asked for two people, and I just can't put Macman on the list because of the census, so there you go.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

EE, I'm going to respond to your request soon. I need to reread though because all game I was sure sold2 was clear so I'll reevaluate stuff.

Roxy, I never cleared sold2 because of the census but because I thought he wa gov.

 

[Nicholas1024]

nich, explain scamp.

Obviously the play is between one of those two (him and Macman), and he's the one on the census, making him a likely possibility for the SK.

@Macman
Um... what? Sorry, I just cannot remember you ever pushing a quicklynch as town.

 

[Purple]

Scamp, FMPOV, the census is full of clears, generally speaking there is only one GF, so that means that everyone else IS in fact townie, so there's no one else to lynch out of that.

 

[Virgilijus]

EE: my pick for Indy left is between Macman, Scampopo, and Nich. First two because we have to look at claimed Vigs (plus Macman is all ready playing poorly) and Nich's vanilla townie claim doesn't sit perfectly with me (all ready four claimed vanillas all with different names and his is a copy).

 

[Kirby King]

Day 4 Vote Count
Scamp (1): Macman

Not voting: Sold2, Gheb_01, Nicholas1024, Scamp, Roxy, Virgilijus, Evil Eye

It takes 5 out of 8 votes to lynch.

The deadline is Saturday, April 24 at 11:59:59 PM ET.

 

[Virgilijus]

Scamp: what is the actual name of your role?

Actually, Macman as well.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

EE, I think the indy's between Scamp and Virg. I suck at indy hunting but I think these guys have suspiciously few connections to anybody and I know my census is right.

Nick is probably town after rereading but sold2 plays a bit like an indy. Need to get rid of my mindset when I cleared him.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

miller poisoner

 

[Evil Eye]

Hey Macman, my question was to everyone. You're part of everyone.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

i dont have an answer yet

 

[Virgilijus]

What about Scamp? You still have your vote on him.

 

[Purple]

I don't feel anything being put to light with this new conversation...

 

[#HBC | Mac]

im not really thinking its scamp much atm. not sure. i'll figure it out

 

[Scamp]

My role just says vigilante.

Scamp, FMPOV, the census is full of clears, generally speaking there is only one GF, so that means that everyone else IS in fact townie, so there's no one else to lynch out of that.

I'm really confused as to what you said here. It sounds like you're saying there's no one to lynch on the census, but that can't be right. Do you mean that there is only the indy left and that everyone else, even those not on the census, are confirmed townie?

 

[Purple]

oh, i meant that's what nicholas is thinking.

 

[Nicholas1024]

Um... what? I'm not following you, Roxy.

 

[Purple]

from your point of view, all the census is clear, and kevinm the only GF is dead, therefore we lynch outside the census first.

 

[Virgilijus]

How would all the census be clear if there is still an indy in there?

 

[Purple]

clear from being anything besides that indy. Assuming that the indy isn't town-threatening.

 

[Purple]

i'm not even making **** sense anymore, we need to ****ing kill someone.

 

[Scamp]

Well I would love to get this started and vote for Nick but I can't.

 

[Kirby King]

Sold2 has been prodded.

 

[DtJ S2n]

I... fell asleep. I swear I'll do something tomorrow.

 

[Purple]

Hmm..


Looking back all of this, this is what i see.

Scamp is Vig, however since he's hit mafia, his powers are gone, EE is watcher, i'm Doc, Macman is miller poisoner (power is gone), and the rest are blues. Not to say EM logic works here, however i would say we start off lynching the blues, so that we don't lose power in town.

but even then, I say we no lynch for a few reasons.

1) we've gotten to the point that we have an extremely small amount of mafiats that we're no where near lylo or mylo.

2) whoever is the indy, and does kill a person, will give us better odds of finding the indy, instead of us lynching the townie by our own hands.

thoughts?

 

[#HBC | Mac]

n o

 

[Purple]

Well ****. If scamp is worthless like he says he is, we can confirm his role as vig and lynch him. worst case scenario he is actually vig who is worthless, best case he's SK

We can also kill Nich because he's pretty bleh imo

 

[Purple]

Okay i feel like i'm getting topsy turby with my votes and ideals, waiting on people to talk.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

I'm ok with Nich because everyone else is. Virg is town imo, along with EE and heatstroke (if hes roxy). Gheb is town cuz i believe in his census, though he hasnt been as town-like as i usually see him.

 

[Nicholas1024]

I'm ok with Nich because everyone else is. Virg is town imo, along with EE and heatstroke (if hes roxy). Gheb is town cuz i believe in his census, though he hasnt been as town-like as i usually see him.

Everyone's okay with you as a lynch as well, would you support that?

Roxy, no lynch at this stage is horrible. Don't consider it until mylo. And everyone on the census is by no means clear, until we find the Indy.

 

[Purple]

Everyone's not okay with a lynch on Macman or you. You both are equally likeable options along with Scamp.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

and the rest are blues

Not true.

And I'm not sure but if we assume all mafiosi to be dead and all potential indies having used their kill we might not see any NKs at all for the rest of the game. Just saying. I'd say we lynch somebody out of the non-clear pool and see if there are any NKs. That rids us of WIFOM for later and also allows us to see how much a ML would affect us at that point.

Because I have the feeling that we won't see NKs anymore. Unless one of the claimed killing roles is lying.