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[Good Guy Giygas]

because you dont need intense lore to have a good crossover game like all the other companies are trying to push

there doesn't have to be a reason why the avengers and a random assortment of capcom characters meet, they're just there

When in doubt: alternate reality portals.

 

[Deleted member]

Shiny...

1. That was an SMT3 reference.
2. This is just a fun little gimmick to lean into being pranked.
3. Chill out with referencing Gwen saying I'm the biggest weeb when that's demonstratably untrue. Also, chill out with referencing Gwen in general.

Oh, I hope that was not too insulting.
I am very sorry.

 

[Gentlepanda]

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[Cutie Gwen]

So she wants Xenoblade?

Xenoblade has that on top of HOURS of world building and plot due to being an RPG, not to mention it tends to be more serious. Sonic's like an arcade game where you constantly replay it to get a new high score by finding new routes similar to Star Fox. Plus she's stated that she doesn't enjoy RPGs too much in the past

 

[Schnee117]

because you dont need intense lore to have a good crossover game like all the other companies are trying to push

there doesn't have to be a reason why the avengers and a random assortment of capcom characters meet, they're just there

She isn't asking for deep lore.
Just basic ass interactions like the intros, outros and victory screens in UMvC3 and BBTAG

 

[Ultomato]

Xenoblade has that on top of HOURS of world building and plot due to being an RPG, not to mention it tends to be more serious. Sonic's like an arcade game where you constantly replay it to get a new high score by finding new routes similar to Star Fox. Plus she's stated that she doesn't enjoy RPGs too much in the past

So she wants Bandersnatch?

 

[SnakeFighter64]

Plot really depends on how it's done but I feel SnakeFighter's not wording her point too well. What she wants is a story where characters interact with each other quite a bit, which Sonic games do but not all too many of Nintendo's franchises do. Mario's deliberately simplistic, Kirby's lore is surprisingly deep but there's no character interaction, Metroid's lore is deep and is found either through scanning **** or environmental story telling, etc. Somebody did bring up Star Fox which I feel is the closest comparison due to the teammates talking to each other. Have that with more banter alongside Sonic firing quips at Eggman during boss fights like usual and it's fine.

Also how the hell is Smash the biggest crossover in gaming but it barely has characters interact with each other

Thank you! That’s it!

Also, Subspace Emissary 2 please. Even if it’s DLC, I won’t mind.

 

[redfeatherraven]

Aight fam I'm back on the comp with my mental **** back in the upright position, what's the topic of conver-



Oh.

Oh my.

It's this?

I, uh. I think I'm gonna do something more relaxing.

Like S-rank the Classic Sonic Forces levels with a Rock Band drumkit.

Also, Subspace Emissary 2 please. Even if it’s DLC, I won’t mind.

That said I wholeheartedly approve this message.

 

[Kotor]

Im still shocked that Celica didnt make it to the base roster as an echo of Robin. Not only is she the first fe character to use both swords and magic but shes was also the number one voted female character at the cyl poll.

Celica's first place ranking happened after the roster was decided. I don't know about her being an echo. I see Celica having more going for her. I could accept semiclone.

 

[Deleted member]

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This please the Pingas.

I believe THIS is what you meant to say with that Robotnik.

 

[Will]

She isn't asking for deep lore.
Just basic *** interactions like the intros, outros and victory screens in UMvC3 and BBTAG

they do have that for in-universe interactions like in Fire Emblem, Kid Icarus, and Star Fox.

because, y'know, they actually know each other

 

[Opossum]

Im still shocked that Celica didnt make it to the base roster as an echo of Robin. Not only is she the first fe character to use both swords and magic but shes was also the number one voted female character at the cyl poll.

Ehhhhhhh I mean, Celica and Robin don't really fight the same way at all. She casts spells freehand instead of by tome, her game explicitly doesn't have a durability mechanic, her swordplay is very different (with her fighting with a more graceful style while Robin takes a cumbersome and untrained approach), and Robin's stats in Smash wouldn't really fit her. They both use swords and magic, but they're as different from each other as Marth and Ike are.

 

[Ultomato]

Thank you! That’s it!

Also, Subspace Emissary 2 please. Even if it’s DLC, I won’t mind.

Okay, we didn't properly understand you but do you realise you've basically been insulting every big Nintendo franchise, on a forum about a Nintendo Game? (Even if it's unintentional)

 

[BlondeLombax]

This might be my favorite take on the Sonic's film design, light spoilers for FMA.

Spoiler: im not sorry

You’re going straight to pecking HIFL.

 

[Schnee117]

they do have that for in-universe interactions like in Fire Emblem, Kid Icarus, and Star Fox.

because, y'know, they actually know each other

She's asking for it between franchises because that's part of the appeal of a crossover
How are you so obtuse.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

So she wants Bandersnatch?

The **** is Bandersnatch?

Thank you! That’s it!

Also, Subspace Emissary 2 please. Even if it’s DLC, I won’t mind.

I mean that's quite a big thing for DLC but yeah Smash really should have characters get winquotes at the end of matches in dialogue boxes. Would take quite some effort but goddamn would it help make the experience so much more enjoyable. I'm still pissed that the MHA fighting game localization didn't even bother putting subtitles for the pre-battle and win quotes because they didn't even dub it meaning the main appeal of these kinds of game flat-out doesn't exist

 

[Deleted member]

What is an example of a great game with extremely deep lore and a fantastic story?
The lore being like being deeper than the Mariana Trench?
I like lore and story.

 

[osby]

Ehhhhhhh I mean, Celica and Robin don't really fight the same way at all. She casts spells freehand instead of by tome, her game explicitly doesn't have a durability mechanic, her swordplay is very different (with her fighting with a more graceful style while Robin takes a cumbersome and untrained approach), and Robin's stats in Smash wouldn't really fit her. They both use swords and magic, but they're as different from each other as Marth and Ike are.

What do you mean Ike and Marth aren't clones, they both have counters and blue hair!

 

[Deleted member]

The end of Odyssey on the moon was pretty dramatic; it was like a soap opera. I was on the edge of my damn seat like, "Who will Peach choose???"

Imo i found that ending to be extremely bad. Like not only

Ehhhhhhh I mean, Celica and Robin don't really fight the same way at all. She casts spells freehand instead of by tome, her game explicitly doesn't have a durability mechanic, her swordplay is very different (with her fighting with a more graceful style while Robin takes a cumbersome and untrained approach), and Robin's stats in Smash wouldn't really fit her. They both use swords and magic, but they're as different from each other as Marth and Ike are.

Good point.

 

[Will]

She's asking for it between franchises because that's part of the appeal of a crossover
How are you so obtuse.

If that's your appeal of a crossover then it's only yours, chief.

I'm not buying Smash Bros to see how and interact. I'm here to beat **** up.

 

[Deleted member]

She isn't asking for deep lore.
Just basic *** interactions like the intros, outros and victory screens in UMvC3 and BBTAG

tbh it's pretty hard to do that when you have like

a billion characters

would be pretty cool though

 

[Ultomato]

The **** is Bandersnatch?

I mean that's quite a big thing for DLC but yeah Smash really should have characters get winquotes at the end of matches in dialogue boxes. Would take quite some effort but goddamn would it help make the experience so much more enjoyable. I'm still pissed that the MHA fighting game localization didn't even bother putting subtitles for the pre-battle and win quotes because they didn't even dub it meaning the main appeal of these kinds of game flat-out doesn't exist

I think it's been discussed here before, but Smash Bros takes a Billion Times more effort to make than most fighters that have these interactions.

Yes, I would freaking LOVE to have that, but the game is amazing as it is and disliking it because doesn't have that Just seems petty. You play Fighters for the gameplay

 

[Wyoming]

Subspace 2?

Just make a movie special and spare me the seven hour nonsense

 

[Deleted member]

I have no idea how that double post happened. I wanted to scratch that first comment.

 

[Coricus]

Xenoblade has that on top of HOURS of world building and plot due to being an RPG, not to mention it tends to be more serious. Sonic's like an arcade game where you constantly replay it to get a new high score by finding new routes similar to Star Fox. Plus she's stated that she doesn't enjoy RPGs too much in the past

So I need to tell SnakeFighter64 to buy Uprising a second time?

 

[Gentlepanda]

imagine going through pre fight interactions in an 8-player smash

 

[Ultomato]

What is an example of a great game with extremely deep lore and a fantastic story?
The lore being like being deeper than the Mariana Trench?
I like lore and story.

Xenoblade Chronicles 1

 

[redfeatherraven]

I believe THIS is what you meant to say with that Robotnik.

Bruh.

C'mon.

You know he can't get his heart cockles warmed.

 

[TheMightyP]

I feel as if Mario is all over the place with character interactions. In games like Mario Sunshine, Galaxy 1&2, Odyssey, there's always an abundance of characters that are always interacting with each other, like FLUDD, Cappy, Rosalina and the Lumas, through dialouges and actions.

But then you get to the 2D games, 3D Land and 3D World and you see that characters barely talk to each other, and have next to no interactions.

Ironically, the spinoffs do a FAR better job with giving character interactions. Dark Moon's ending, and the Gamecube-Early Wii Mario Sports games are prime examples.

 

[Deleted member]

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[Deleted member]

Subspace 2?

Just make a movie special and spare me the seven hour nonsense

"Nonsense"?
I will defend Subspace until the day I die.
It was fantastic, except I do understand why people are unhappy with the lack of game references, but that is fine.
It was really fun getting the characters and going through different enemies and levels.

 

[Will]

Smash really should have characters get winquotes at the end of matches in dialogue boxes.

you can do that if you can over-come the challenges of either having simple dialogue or no dialogue to generate at all

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I think it's been discussed here before, but Smash Bros takes a Billion Times more effort to make than most fighters that have these interactions.

Yes, I would freaking LOVE to have that, but the game is amazing as it is and disliking it because doesn't have that Just seems petty. You play Fighters for the gameplay

I'm aware but just let these characters interact more. It's why I like the Codecs and Guidances, because hey, at least it's something

Oh I'm specifically talking about MHA: One's Justice about me disliking it, again, the localization was disgustingly barebones for what's currently one of the biggest hits in the anime/manga industry

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

Depends on the game.

If I'm playing Phoenix Wright, hell yeah I expect the story to be good, because it ties in directly to the gameplay.

If I'm playing Cuphead I don't expect much in the way of complexity about a character with drinkwear for a head.

Alright, fair point.

I was just mostly referring to game's where the main appeal is the gameplay and the fun factor and where narrative really wasn't supposed to be the main focus in the first place.

But yes, some games like visual novels and such should have a good narrative as it does connect to the gameplay.

 

[Gentlepanda]

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[NonSpecificGuy]

I remember people **** talking Subspace a LOT back in the day and it was definitely Smash's best example of the characters interacting.

I STILL wish they would've done Subspace again. I know it likely never will but it'd satiate that feeling that the characters don't interact.

 

[Schnee117]

If that's your appeal of a crossover then it's only yours, chief.

That's the entire point of a crossover bub
The whole point is seeing all sorts of things mesh together and interact.
Smash doesn't go deep enough with that.

tbh it's pretty hard to do that when you have like

a billion characters

would be pretty cool though

Marvel 3 had nearly 60 or so characters, I think the challenge is moreso in that some characters literally can't say a thing nor have a partner for them to say something for them.

 

[Opossum]

If that's your appeal of a crossover then it's only yours, chief.

I'm not buying Smash Bros to see how and interact. I'm here to beat **** up.

The characters are what draws people to the game in the first place. Crossovers should, in theory, allow them to interact. It's not hard to understand.

 

[Will]

That's the entire point of a crossover bub
The whole point is seeing all sorts of things mesh together and interact.
Smash doesn't go deep enough with that.

The appeal of Smash was to see nintendo characters beat the **** out of each other, and it's been doing that for 20 years strong.

 

[Wademan94]

Ehhhhhhh I mean, Celica and Robin don't really fight the same way at all. She casts spells freehand instead of by tome, her game explicitly doesn't have a durability mechanic, her swordplay is very different (with her fighting with a more graceful style while Robin takes a cumbersome and untrained approach), and Robin's stats in Smash wouldn't really fit her. They both use swords and magic, but they're as different from each other as Marth and Ike are.

I guess in that sense, Robin at the least could serve as a base for Celica as like a semi-clone then.