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What are you most excited about for E3?


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Like, take Mario Odyssey. They didn’t write a plot. Nothing happens in each kingdom. You just go there, get the thing, and leave. There are no arcs, no journey is gone on. There’s no drama.
I mean it's not like Click Clock Wood is the War and Peace of platforming levels.
 

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dude you can't just go leaking endgame scenes like this
Nonsense. It's a deleted scene from Infinity War. Thanos performs a bunch of Fortnite dances after successfully wiping out half of all life. The only reason they were cut was because the Motion Picture Association threaten to rate the movie a strong R rating if included in the theatrical release.
 
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by the very definition of being a first year she's in the oh no zone
You have no idea what I'd give up for a vision a couple years into the future in P5R so porn artists can legally draw art of her.
 
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You do realize Miyamoto isn't responsible for every Nintendo game, right?

Also, saying things like Majora's Mask or TTYD are low effort stories is a bit much. Writing something off because it's told through text is writing off a lot of good stories.
I will give you that. It can be done well. I just don’t like it and think it looks rather lazy unless there’s still some cinematography to it.
Mario's story isn't amazing or detailed, but there's still a story being told. Odyssey and Galaxy had a lot of love put into it in terms of storytelling.
Zelda, Metroid, and Star Fox are in the same boat.

Games like Kirby, DK, and Pokemon don't need a big story because they are designed to be accessible games and have cartoonish characters.

Paper Mario also had fantastic stories game 1 to 3 to go along with its music and gameplay.

Xenoblade Chronicles was like any other modern game with its story.

Nintendo games aren't as plot-driven as other companies but say there's none or little is off the mark.

edit: Miyamoto games only? His range is limited and sometimes outdated, but he was and is capable of delivering something with mainline Mario and Pikmin
Okay, I haven’t played Galaxy, but I’ve watched people play all the way through Odyssey and I just don’t get what your saying.

And I will agree that they have good stories in their RPGs. But pretty much no where else in my eyes. Oh, and I guess Kid Icarus

Allright, neither of these games was really made for the story. I think your wish for a story heavy platformer is oddly specific
Apparently most of my wishes are oddly specific. Which is why I’m not getting any of them, I guess.
 

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'Cause that isn't the point of the game.

You're not playing for story, you're playing to have fun jumping around and exploring as Mario.
Charles Martinet (dramatic narration): "In a world ravaged by the corrupt king Bowser, there is only one person who can bring an end to his wicked plans. A champion who can vanquish the darkness he has brought upon my home and countless others across the planet. That champion is me. Mario; Bowser's greatest adversary. Let's ****ing do this."

WAHOOOOOOOOOOO LET'S-A GOOOOOOOOOO
 
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No drama in Odyssey?

Man, Bowsario almost got his (their?) bodies crushed and melted trying to get Peach out of that moon cavern.

And no cinematography in Zelda? Are we all in the same timeline?
 
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Yeaaaaaaaah Kasumi is a first year, so heck naw to creepy stuff.

Just draw this instead:

 

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I just don’t like it and think it looks rather lazy unless there’s still some cinematography to it.
This is such a great example of a "form over content" opinion and I believe I've stated before people who think like this should be institutionalised
 

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'Cause that isn't the point of the game.

You're not playing for story, you're playing to have fun jumping around and exploring as Mario.
Why can’t it be both? One doesn’t negate the other. Like, look at the Skylanders games. Or LEGO games. Or even classic Spyro.
You want drama in a Mario game?

Just simply does not belong there.

Play Zelda, Star Fox, Metroid, Xenoblade, or Fire Emblem for that. Not Mario, DK, or Kirby.
Not Drama, you know what I mean. Just... a narrative.
 

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nintendo lore is either stupidly simple for something stupidly complex or stupidly complex for something stupidly simple.

"What do you mean that these all different people?"
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Idk about y'all, but I don't usually play video games for an interesting narrative...

I just want to have a good time...

Plot in video games is usually just an afterthought for me
 
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Why can’t it be both? One doesn’t negate the other. Like, look at the Skylanders games. Or LEGO games. Or even classic Spyro.


Not Drama, you know what I mean. Just... a narrative.
You specified drama.

There is a narrative. Bowser is about to marry Peach and he's ruining every kingdom with his wedding preparations. It's simple, but every world has a problem caused by him that you fix.
 
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Bro, if drawing porn of teenagers was illegal, Japan would just be a giant Alcatraz.
Your location was once "Vortex Tokyo".
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Gwen was correct about you being the biggest active weeb in the thread. :p
 

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Is it bad I want to draw this, because it would be hilarious if someone actually drew it?
Yo, what if I a did sprite of it, but instead of Robotnik head, there is Kasumi head instead?
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Kill two birds with one stone.:ultridley:
 
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Idk about y'all, but I don't usually play video games for an interesting narrative...

I just want to have a good time...

Plot in video games is usually just an afterthought for me
Depends on the game.

If I'm playing Phoenix Wright, hell yeah I expect the story to be good, because it ties in directly to the gameplay.

If I'm playing Cuphead I don't expect much in the way of complexity about a character with drinkwear for a head.
 

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Why can’t it be both? One doesn’t negate the other. Like, look at the Skylanders games. Or LEGO games. Or even classic Spyro.


Not Drama, you know what I mean. Just... a narrative.
Okay so none of the games you mentioned have a great story so you are in fact Just talking about cutscenes and Voice acting which see me latest post.

Furthermore, you literally asked for drama. Look at it like this: they make plenty of great games with great stories but you want Them to specifically add it to the series that don't have it yet? You want Them to Change the formula of their biggest franchise to suit your weird preferences?
 
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Why can’t it be both? One doesn’t negate the other. Like, look at the Skylanders games. Or LEGO games. Or even classic Spyro.
The biggest question is does it need it. Having a narrative just for the sake of having narrative isn't something I personally would want.

Different games have different styles. Some games have huge, in-depth stories and are very cinematic, while some are just about having fun and playing the game.
 

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To be fair Click Clock Wood is actually a surprisingly cool take that I only really remember Kirby using too but with a lot more changes. Honestly that's one of the few things I'm willing to praise the game for
Oh don't get me wrong, I love Click Clock Wood. Plus it has the best music in that whole game. I just think B-K is another example of why platformers don't necessarily need highly innovative stories. :p
 

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Plot really depends on how it's done but I feel SnakeFighter's not wording her point too well. What she wants is a story where characters interact with each other quite a bit, which Sonic games do but not all too many of Nintendo's franchises do. Mario's deliberately simplistic, Kirby's lore is surprisingly deep but there's no character interaction, Metroid's lore is deep and is found either through scanning **** or environmental story telling, etc. Somebody did bring up Star Fox which I feel is the closest comparison due to the teammates talking to each other. Have that with more banter alongside Sonic firing quips at Eggman during boss fights like usual and it's fine.

Also how the hell is Smash the biggest crossover in gaming but it barely has characters interact with each other
 

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Idk about y'all, but I don't usually play video games for an interesting narrative...

I just want to have a good time...

Plot in video games is usually just an afterthought for me
Plot is one of the many ways one can have a good time.
I like me a game with good plot.
I like me a good plotless game.
 
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Also how the hell is Smash the biggest crossover in gaming but it barely has characters interact with each other
because you dont need intense lore to have a good crossover game like all the other companies are trying to push

there doesn't have to be a reason why the avengers and a random assortment of capcom characters meet, they're just there
 
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Always nice to see Celica Gang still hanging on.
Also you should totally post in the Celica thread.
Im still shocked that Celica didnt make it to the base roster as an echo of Robin. Not only is she the first fe character to use both swords and magic but shes was also the number one voted female character at the cyl poll.
 

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Your location was once "Vortex Tokyo".
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Gwen was correct about you being the biggest active weeb in the thread. :p
Shiny...

1. That was an SMT3 reference.
2. This is just a fun little gimmick to lean into being pranked.
3. Chill out with referencing Gwen saying I'm the biggest weeb when that's demonstratably untrue. Also, chill out with referencing Gwen in general.
 

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Plot really depends on how it's done but I feel SnakeFighter's not wording her point too well. What she wants is a story where characters interact with each other quite a bit, which Sonic games do but not all too many of Nintendo's franchises do. Mario's deliberately simplistic, Kirby's lore is surprisingly deep but there's no character interaction, Metroid's lore is deep and is found either through scanning **** or environmental story telling, etc. Somebody did bring up Star Fox which I feel is the closest comparison due to the teammates talking to each other. Have that with more banter alongside Sonic firing quips at Eggman during boss fights like usual and it's fine.

Also how the hell is Smash the biggest crossover in gaming but it barely has characters interact with each other
So she wants Xenoblade?
 
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