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[Deleted member]

No idea if this qualifies as an unpopular opinion, but after Greninja and Incineroar...

Another Gen 1 Pokemon > Starter Pokemon

Don't get me wrong, I want representation for new gens, but I hate how predictable this is becoming. We get dozens of new Pokemon with each Gen, yet we usually limit ourselves to the starters over the course of speculation and pass up plenty of interesting unorthodox choices because of this pattern that's been set. It's just not as fun and suprising to me as it could be, as we have literally hundreds of options to choose from aside from the "safe" starters. I'm already dreading the inevitable "Gen 8 grass starter for Smash 6!!".

We have a fair amount of non-starters, though, too.
Pikachu/Jugglypuff (Smash64, Non Starters)
Pichu/Mewtwo (Melee, Non Starters)
Lucario/Pkmn Trainer (Brawl, 1 non Starter, 1 combo trio Starter)
Charizard/Greninja (Smash Wii U, 1 new Starter, 1 rework)
Mewto Returns, Pkmn Trainer Returns, Pichu Returns, Incineroar (1 new starter; 2 older Starters return; 1 older, re-worked starter returns)

Essentially, the only game to add a Starter and not a new non-starter altogether was Ultimate (and Brawl; forgot Greninja was a starter lol) since the rest also introduced a non-starter as well.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

Okay, since nobody else wants Eevee...
We
need
Z o r o a r k

Zoroark felt too much like a Lucario wannabe imo

If we were to get any Gen 5 rep, it should be Victini.

Or Gothitelle with a Gardevoir echo

 

[Deleted member]

Know you know what It feels like to be a supporter of a very controversial character...

I swear, whenever I bring up Steve, people lose it, and go all "BUT MINECRAFT IS CRINGEY AND HE'S NO BANJO! THEREFORE, HE DOESN'T DESERVE IT!". Seriously though, it's just so annoying that everyone else can talk about their most wanted character without getting flack, while I can't even mention good ol' Blocky Boi without getting people mocking me for wanting a legitimately justifiable character... (This doesn't happen often on Smashboards, though, you guys are well behaved)

While I'd be happy for Banjo fans, I'm not gonna lie, I'd feel more excited for Steve myself. I just really like MC as a game and would love to see it crossover with another game I love.

For me personally, I say let people like what they like. No one is obligated to like anything, but on the same token, we don't need to push our own character wants onto others and insult theirs if they contrast with ours.

 

[Dee Dude]

The problem with Ashely was her fan base pretty much got “Waluigi-fied”.

One extremely butthurt fan on Twitter was angry about Castlevania calling it a “dead franchise” getting in over Ashely and even threatened to outright murder Sakurai for not putting her in, that’s where the entire support group took the blame.

Now, I may not care about Asey nor I did think she had a chance, but nobody shouldn’t insulted for wanting a character, heck I wouldn’t mind her in.

 

[Deleted member]

I supported Ashley! I really want her in Smash 6, too!

 

[Noipoi]

character development

I just had a little arc in the middle of the season.

I wonder when this filler arc will end, though? We haven't gotten a direct yet.

 

[Just a penguin]

character development

Smashboards has better characters than everything else, change my mind.

 

[Pakky]

We need a fat Pokémon...

Just a big o'l fat lazy one.

 

[AndreaAC]

Y'know what?

**** it.

I think Ashley's a cool character, Smash or not. And no one's gonna stop me from talkin' about her whenever the Hell I want!
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KMDP did this lol

:D YEAH! THAT'S THE SPIRIT, NOI!

x3 Awww, that's so freakin' cute! Wonderful work KMDP !

 

[Deleted member]

I just had a little arc in the middle of the season.

I wonder when this filler arc will end, though? We haven't gotten a direct yet.

well we still haven't had our beach episode yet

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

Smashboards has better characters than everything else, change my mind.

We're so rich in character, that you could write an entire novel out of all of us...

 

[Cosmic77]

No, we need Decidueye but we all see how that freaking went

I'd prefer Zoroark over Decidueye for three reasons.

(1) Gen V didn't get squat on the roster (though poor Gen III has it worse in Smash).
(2) His illusion abilities make me thing he'd be a very unique character.
(3) I'm biased as heck. Not apologizing for that.

 

[MainJPW]

We need a fat Pokémon...

Just a big o'l fat lazy one.

Like Snorlax?

 

[Deleted member]

We're so rich in character, that you could make an entire novel out of all of us...

hell you could probably make a forum where we can communicate with each other

 

[Deleted member]

Y'know what?

**** it.

I think Ashley's a cool character, Smash or not. And no one's gonna stop me from talkin' about her whenever the Hell I want!
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KMDP did this lol

That art is adorable. Props to KMDP .

I have a Mii of Ashley I used on Smash 3DS. Now that Mii Sword Fighter is actually good, maybe it's time to bring her over to Ultimate...

 

[Pakky]

Like Snorlax?

Yes but make it grass... Like a HUGE sloth with moss on its back.

 

[Deleted member]

I just had a little arc in the middle of the season.

I wonder when this filler arc will end, though? We haven't gotten a direct yet.

I just wonder when @GothFluttershy will finally be accepted by the others
hint hint

 

[Deleted member]

Yes but make it grass... Like a HUGE sloth with moss on its back.

Torterra?

 

[Raxxel]

Oh yeah, and then there's Bandana Dee.

Oh boy, Bandana Dee...No one seems to be able to agree or even agree to disagree on that one. Which makes me sad, because he's still one of my most wanted.

Steve seems to be unable to not start arguments either.

Honestly, when it comes to Bandana Dee I still bring him up when it comes to characters I want. People can tell me he's a hat goomba, that he's insignificant, I don't care, because in the end detractors don't do anything to effect the roster, and they never have. This applies to any character, even Goku who is probably one of the only characters I've actually spent any sort of effort arguing against. Support and be loud about anyone you want, detractors are annoying white noise at best in the end.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

Yes but make it grass... Like a HUGE sloth with moss on its back.

He's not grass, but we do have a huge lazy sloth

 

[Pakky]

I'd prefer Zoroark over Decidueye for three reasons.

(1) Gen V didn't get squat on the roster (though poor Gen III has it worse in Smash).
(2) His illusion abilities make me thing he'd be a very unique character.
(3) I'm biased as heck. Not apologizing for that.

When I say it I always get beat up

 

[Deleted member]

On the topic of Pokemon, where the heck is Dunsparce.

AKA best Pokemon Mystery Dungeon character.

 

[Kingslime304]

Remember when people thought Pokémon is being overrepresented like FE after incineroars revel even though Pokémon is like one of the most popular, if not THE most popular game series in the world.
No one complained about it during Smash 4 btw.

 

[Noipoi]

Yes but make it grass... Like a HUGE sloth with moss on its back.

I want a huge, grass mammoth personally.

Put that **** in Smash. We've never had an elephant fighter.

I just wonder when @GothFluttershy will finally be accepted by the others
hint hint

Spoiler

When they stop talking about screwing dogs.

 

[Deleted member]

On the topic of Pokemon, where the heck is Dunsparce.
AKA best Pokemon Mystery Dungeon character.

Weird way to type Ampharos but OK

 

[Dee Dude]

Bandana Dee needs more love, I consider him a high request among Geno/Isaac ranks and he’s very popular in Japan as well.
It’s clear that Sakurai’s modern Kirby bias is the main reason why he’s barely even in Smash aside from a Spirit.

No trophy in 4, not even an AT or anything.

 

[Cosmic77]

Honestly, when it comes to Bandana Dee I still bring him up when it comes to characters I want. People can tell me he's a hat goomba, that he's insignificant, I don't care, because in the end detractors don't do anything to effect the roster, and they never have. This applies to any character, even Goku who is probably one of the only characters I've actually spent any sort of effort arguing against. Support and be loud about anyone you want, detractors are annoying white noise at best in the end.

We have a freaking Piranha Plant! Why does this argument still exist!?

 

[Deleted member]

On the topic of Pokemon, where the heck is Dunsparce.

AKA best Pokemon Mystery Dungeon character.

that's not grovyle

 

[Deleted member]

that's not grovyle

Man nobody around here knows how to spell Ampharos

 

[Pakky]

I want a huge, grass mammoth personally.

Put that **** in Smash. We've never had an elephant fighter.

Spoiler

When they stop talking about screwing dogs.

An elephant does open... wait...

Grass version of this guy

Spoiler: Big boys

With a hint of

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Yeah, I personally still can't see an Assist Trophy or Boss being promoted to playable in the same game.

Non-fighting stage cameos (like Captain Toad, Viridi and Pauline) and Final Smash Cameos (Bass, Kumatora, Paula, Proto Man, Mecha-Fiora) are perfectly fair game though, workable through just a costume change, replacing them with someone else or even removing their non playable variant altogether when the playable version is out. I'm just talking from a programming perspective this coming from someone who dropped programming for general IT in college. You already programmed the AT's moveset, returning to them for playable would be a lot more work than a FS/stage cameo who is just a model and preset animations.

and wELP my cable and internet are being butts today, time to do the Elma fight in Xenoblade 2 I'm so exciteddddd

see you guys when my internet stops being crap

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

I'd prefer Zoroark over Decidueye for three reasons.

(1) Gen V didn't get squat on the roster (though poor Gen III has it worse in Smash).
(2) His illusion abilities make me thing he'd be a very unique character.
(3) I'm biased as heck. Not apologizing for that.

was Gen V the one with Mienshao? if So, Id rather have Mienshao

 

[Noipoi]

Y'know, an elephant fighter could work actually. Assuming they made a huge grass mammoth starter like I said before, it could work in Smash despite being quadrupedal.

Grabs? Use it's Trunk. Items? Once again, the trunk. It could be used for jabs and smash attacks too. Use Pokemon moves to fill the rest of the moveset.

 

[PsySmasher]

Responding to the topics being discussed:

Ashley and Bandana Dee are two of my most wanted characters in Smash. Period.

Ashley was number 1 during the post-Ridley and pre-August Direct period and Bandana Dee has been tied w/ Elma/KOS-MOS as my number 1 ever since that Direct. It’s unfortunate that neither are talked about too often nowadays and most people just focus on 3rd Party characters, which is something that still annoys me today.

And while I DON’T want Steve in Smash, I’m not gonna fabricate a case against him. I just don’t want him in; it’s as simple as that.

As for another new Pokémon, I’d like to see another playable mythical/legendary, since Mewtwo is all we got.

But as long as the design is interesting, I’d be onboard with another Pokémon.

 

[Deleted member]

was Gen V the one with Mienshao? if So, Id rather have Mienshao

Serperior ftw

Which completely shows my hypocrisy if you read my previous post, but I don't care grass noodle is cute as heck

 

[Deleted member]

Spoiler

When they stop talking about screwing dogs.

But that's a key part of his character's personality

 

[Dee Dude]

Remember when people thought Pokémon is being overrepresented like FE after incineroars revel even though Pokémon is like one of the most popular, if not THE most popular game series in the world.
No one complained about it during Smash 4 btw.

Nah, it’s Pokemon. They can add as much as they want since they’re almost reaching a thousand within the
PokeDex.

My only issue with Pokemon in Smash is that they’re not really that interesting to most Smash fans, because most of them are such obvious inclusions and well as promotions (coughgreninjaincineroarcough) that nobody really gets hyped for just another mere pocket monster except Pokemon fans.

Plus, Incineroar was a very bad last reveal.

 

[Raxxel]

We have a freaking Piranha Plant! Why does this argument still exist!?

Because people are insecure about their own character preferences and will find any reason to bring down what they see as competition. I won't pretend this hasn't been me once or twice, but I intend to at least get better about it.

 

[Deleted member]

Incineroar was a very bad last reveal.

Yeah
Don't lie, would've been 10 times more hype as the last reveal

 

[Pakky]

Y'know, an elephant fighter could work actually. Assuming they made a huge grass mammoth starter like I said before, it could work in Smash despite being quadrupedal.

Grabs? Use it's Trunk. Items? Once again, the trunk. It could be used for jabs and smash attacks too. Use Pokemon moves to fill the rest of the moveset.

Recovery? Blow a tree out that truck! the force will knock that big boy back on stage!

Man I love me a complex chungus! Good show man!