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[Just a penguin]

I'm burning Gamestop to the ground. Wanna help?

Ludus-prohibeo delenda est

 

[Pakky]

+= A big taxes costume.

Speaking of she's needs a buff, she's not that great.

 

[Lollipopped]

Imagine wearing a custom /costume in 3

For some reason, I don't want to imagine that ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[Opossum]

I believe Shovel Knight didn’t sell well in Japan and was considered a flop despite Nintendo publishing it. It’s not too specific but Yacht Club has data on their site: https://yachtclubgames.com/2018/04/two-million-copies-of-shovel-knight-sold/

To call it a flop is egregiously misrepresenting the data.

Look at the chart that excludes US sales. Japan, all things considered, sold a solid amount, being a darker blue than most other countries and being about on par with the UK and Germany. It's just that Shovel Knight is disproportionately popular in North America, not unpopular in Japan.

A lot of the folks I see saying it flopped in Japan also tend to be Shantae fans and that's immediately funny to me. Agendas, much?

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

Speaking of she's needs a buff, she's not that great.

This is a joke, right?

This better be a joke

 

[Masked Marshmallow]

From what I understand, Shovel Knight didn’t sell well in Japan and was considered a flop despite Nintendo publishing it. It’s not too specific but Yacht Club has data on their site: https://yachtclubgames.com/2018/04/two-million-copies-of-shovel-knight-sold/

It flopped there indeed.

 

[Pakky]

This is a joke, right?

This better be a joke

That's what I keep hearing and what I've been seeing.

Like she can do a whole lot of stuff but she doesn't seem to be able to kill

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

It flopped there indeed.

Are we just gonna ignore the fact that it flopped even harder in Russia than it did in Japan?

 

[Idon]

That's what I keep hearing and what I've been seeing.

Like she can do a whole lot of stuff but she doesn't seem to be able to kill

Well she got top 8 at the latest major which is more than I can say for a lot of other characters, so I say hold off on that a bit.

 

[PsySmasher]

I just tried for the first time against a Lvl. 9 .

She feels really... weird.

 

[Yoshisaurus Rex]

Speaking of she's needs a buff, she's not that great.

Please, for the love of Arceus tell me this is a joke.

 

[Deleted member]

Since the topic of Hat Kid came up earlier, all I can say on that is this:

Heck peckin' yeah put her in Smash!

I wonder when AHiT's next DLC is coming out. I've recently changed my mind on Death Wish and went from hating it to liking parts of it, so I'm excited to see what DLC 2 has in store.

 

[Opossum]

It flopped there indeed.

To reiterate:

To call it a flop is egregiously misrepresenting the data.

Look at the chart that excludes US sales. Japan, all things considered, sold a solid amount, being a darker blue than most other countries and being about on par with the UK and Germany. It's just that Shovel Knight is disproportionately popular in North America, not unpopular in Japan.

A lot of the folks I see saying it flopped in Japan also tend to be Shantae fans and that's immediately funny to me. Agendas, much?

 

[Masked Marshmallow]

To reiterate:

I posted that before seeing your post. Also, I'm not even that much into Shantae. Shovel Knight is among my favorite indies.

 

[Dyllybirdy]

Are we just gonna ignore the fact that it flopped even harder in Russia than it did in Japan?

Heh, you gotta remember, Russia is the absolute king of video game piracy, so that could be the reason it didn't sell well, I guess?

 

[Deleted member]

The very fact that Shovel Knight is even in the game as an AT with multiple Spirits is proof enough of how impactful he is to Nintendo and gaming as a whole IMO.

 

[Deleted member]

My parents taught me to not preorder games, and i am doing great at the moment without doing s-

Spoiler: **PREORDER ULTIMATE ALLIANCE 3 TO GET THE FANTASTIC FOUR IN YOUR ROSTER!**

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

That's what I keep hearing and what I've been seeing.

Like she can do a whole lot of stuff but she doesn't seem to be able to kill

She doesn't deserve any buffs, period.

I will never forgive her for , and how she made the tournament scene and online play, just very boring and predictable...

 

[Just a penguin]

Are we just gonna ignore the fact that it flopped even harder in Russia than it did in Japan?

 

[DarthEnderX]

It flopped there indeed.

Doesn't that chart make perfect sense though given the population difference between NA and Japan?

 

[Pakky]

Well she got top 8 at the latest major which is more than I can say for a lot of other characters, so I say hold off on that a bit.

Word?

Oh, didn't know that! Well... my bad ya'll I'm sorry.

Also I've been hearing talk about being the worst.

Since I main I KNOW that's not true.

 

[Deleted member]

Word?

Oh, didn't know that! Well... my bad ya'll I'm sorry.

Also I've been hearing talk about being the worst.

Since I main I KNOW that's not true.

And you are right.

 

[PsySmasher]

It flopped there indeed.

It's not so much that it failed in Japan.

It's more like that compared to the U.S, it sold much less in Japan.

If you look at the region breakdown 60.9% of Shovel Knight's 2 million sales came from the U.S., which is around 1.2 million units.

Even with Japan's 3% (approx). that's about 60,000 copies, which shouldn't be taken lightly, especially for an indie game.

 

[TheCJBrine]

I found K. Rool hard to play online save for my first couple of matches with him, but to be fair almost everyone is 100x better than me with their competitive, psychic minds and all that.

The montages on Youtube make me want to play him more, but I just found it fun to try and win as King Dedede and using his crouch as a troll/taunt. Sending out a Gordo and inhaling it after it gets reflected is fun, too, especially if it hits.

 

[Deleted member]

TBH the only characters I would say really need a buff this early on in the meta are Sheik, Little Mac, and Kirby. It's too early to tell for nerfs or for buffs for all the other characters.

 

[PsySmasher]

Word?

Oh, didn't know that! Well... my bad ya'll I'm sorry.

Also I've been hearing talk about being the worst.

Since I main I KNOW that's not true.

He's definitely not the worst.

But he's definitely not as good as we originally thought.

 

[Just a penguin]

TBH the only characters I would say really need a buff this early on in the meta are Sheik, Little Mac, and Kirby. It's too early to tell for nerfs or for buffs for all the other characters.

would beg to differ.

 

[Deleted member]

would beg to differ.

Yeah, they seem a bit too weak as well

 

[Masked Marshmallow]

Shovel Knight is just Final Fantasy in disguise.

 

[PsySmasher]

would beg to differ.

Thank you.
Someone here gets the struggle of being a main.

 

[Deleted member]

+= A big taxes costume.

Speaking of she's needs a buff, she's not that great.

She can almost do everything she could in smash 4 but its harder to do and thare is more counter play

 

[Dyllybirdy]

Shovel Knight is just Final Fantasy in disguise.

Oh, so that means Final Fantasy actually does have a pretty solid amount of representation in Smash. Who knew?

 

[Deleted member]

Shovel Knight is just Final Fantasy in disguise.

Do we know when king of cards comes out? I loved the other 3 campaigns (Specter of Torment was amazing) and I'm looking forwards to hopping back in.

 

[staindgrey]

My parents taught me to not preorder games, and i am doing great at the moment without doing s-

Spoiler: **PREORDER ULTIMATE ALLIANCE 3 TO GET THE FANTASTIC FOUR IN YOUR ROSTER!**

Don't get it from GameStop.

They'll cancel your preorder three days before release and give you a nonapology via email in which they address you by the wrong ****ing name.

Just saying.

 

[Pakky]

He's definitely not the worst.

But he's definitely not as good as we originally thought.

Yeah the end lag just hurts, I mean it really hurts.

vs... lol good luck

 

[Deleted member]

The only truly awful characters so far are Little Mac, Bowser Jr., and Kirby. The combination of stronger offstage play and a more aggressive game overall, along with not having changed much at all in the transition from 4 to Ult, meant that Jr. and Mac got left behind.
Kirby hasn't been good in 20 years so I think he's just doomed to be bad forever.

 

[Just a penguin]

Thank you.
Someone here gets the struggle of being a main.

Wow, another main! That brings us up to 47. Hey, remember when was a meme? That was so weird.

 

[Yoshisaurus Rex]

Don't get it from GameStop.

They'll cancel your preorder three days before release and give you a nonapology via email in which they address you by the wrong ****ing name.

Just saying.

^He’s right. You’re better off getting it from Amazon if you have that site in your country @JDCabrera

 

[RyuhoFox]

It's not so much that it failed in Japan.

It's more like that compared to the U.S, it sold much less in Japan.

If you look at the region breakdown 60.9% of Shovel Knight's 2 million sales came from the U.S., which is around 1.2 million units.

Even with Japan's 3% (approx). that's about 60,000 copies, which shouldn't be taken lightly, especially for an indie game.

It's kind of odd to me how people were taking it selling a lot less in Japan than in the US to mean it was a flop there. Given that a pie graph wouldn't show if it was a flop or not in the first place, it shows what percentage of sales came from where. Beyond that whether it flopped or not entirely depends on expected sales and it's seriously doubtful they were expecting to sell the same amount of copies in Japan as it sold in a country several times larger than it.

 

[Opossum]

The only truly awful characters so far are Little Mac, Bowser Jr., and Kirby. The combination of stronger offstage play and a more aggressive game overall, along with not having changed much at all in the transition from 4 to Ult, meant that Jr. and Mac got left behind.
Kirby hasn't been good in 20 years so I think he's just doomed to be bad forever.

I want to know whose idea it was to make it so Little Mac didn't get Jolt Haymaker back if he was hit out of it off stage.