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[Cutie Gwen]

Mario has a more sensible timeline than Fire Emblem.

You're saying this like Fire Emblem is meant to be this thickly-woven story that constantly continues where the last entry left off or something. Fates is literally a fairy tale in-universe iirc

 

[Deleted member]

Hohohoho, you are in for a real treat my friend. Immerse yourself into that game as much as you can and don’t rush it. That and Legends of Dragoon made me fail chemistry, twice.

I know next to nothing about it, so I hope no one spoils it. All I know is something about a girl dying at the end.

 

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So before Three Houses releases, I wanna play a FE game to completion to get hyped for it. I don't have time to really commit to playing more than one, though, since I'm cutting back on videogames for the next few months for our Youtube channel.

Here are the candidates:

• Awakening, just 'cause I really like it and can switch the parents/kids around again. Beaten it four times though.
• Shadows of Valentia, because I've only beaten it once. Really like it though.
• Path of Radiance because I started a new playthrough shortly before moving out in August and never actually went back to continue it.
• Thracia 776 because that game is ****ing hard and, I dunno, give myself a challenge that makes Three Houses easy by the time I get to it.
• Shadow Dragon because it's the best version of the original.

Thoughts, FE fans? @Opossum got any input?

Awakening is probably the most streamlined of the five and overall the easiest. Also parents/kids if you're into that.
SoV IMO is the longest game in the series due to the heavier RPG elements (you may need to grind at points). Presentation/Dungeons are a breath of fresh air.
PoR offers the most diversity in terms of objectives you can complete, but it's also among the longer games in the series by Chp #.
Thracia 766 is pretty much what you expect. Fatigue requires swapping out units, so it might help keep things fresh.
Shadow Dragon is the series at it's base level and might take the least amount of time to beat. Save points & Auto-Skip buttons help speed things up. The stupid recruitment requirements for the new units & DS online no longer existing means you can't show everything off easily.

 

[Deleted member]

That's just the icing on the cake...

She's a blast to use in Smash, and probably has the most fun moveset, out of the entire roster...

I understand she's controversial in Fates, itself, but Smash Bros Corrin is excellent in almost every way...

From the times I used her, I can agree on that too.

She isn't my main, but I enjoyed the times I choosed her.

 

[Deleted member]

You're saying this like Fire Emblem is meant to be this thickly-woven story that constantly continues where the last entry left off or something. Fates is literally a fairy tale in-universe iirc

True. The series of Fire Emblem isn't connected by the characters and settings, but rather the gameplay and themes.

 

[saiyan.]

I know next to nothing about it, so I hope no one spoils it. All I know is something about a girl dying at the end.

Spoilers really don’t matter to be quite frank... the game is so good that you won’t even care if you do know what happens.

 

[Roberk]

So before Three Houses releases, I wanna play a FE game to completion to get hyped for it. I don't have time to really commit to playing more than one, though, since I'm cutting back on videogames for the next few months for our Youtube channel.

Here are the candidates:

• Awakening, just 'cause I really like it and can switch the parents/kids around again. Beaten it four times though.
• Shadows of Valentia, because I've only beaten it once. Really like it though.
• Path of Radiance because I started a new playthrough shortly before moving out in August and never actually went back to continue it.
• Thracia 776 because that game is ****ing hard and, I dunno, give myself a challenge that makes Three Houses easy by the time I get to it.
• Shadow Dragon because it's the best version of the original.

Thoughts, FE fans? @Opossum got any input?

• Awakening: Reclassing and children can make Awakening runs replayable but you've already played it 4 times.
• Shadows of Valentia: SoV isn't all that replayable, but there is an actual post-game that ties into Awakening and Archanea lore.
• Thracia 776: A full English translation is still being worked on for Thracia but it's about halfway done I believe. The translation will be the best there ever is, the others are a combination of terrible menus and incomplete/bad dialogue. I'd wait until that's finished.

Your best bets are Path of Radiance or Shadow Dragon. I'd say Path of Radiance will be the better experience because it's a Gamecube game versus Shadow Dragon being a DS game that's a remake of an NES game. The characters and gameplay are much more fleshed out than Shadow Dragon, the story and world of Path of Radiance/Tellius are some of the best in FE period. However, if you like Marth more than Ike and want to kill of units to get Gaiden chapters want to have a much more simple and classic FE experience, go with Shadow Dragon.

Edit: Actually, Shouzou Kaga's latest game Vestaria Saga is getting a professional English translation on Steam this year. Vestaria Saga was made by Kaga for free but they'll be charging a couple of bucks (maybe $5) for the English version since it'll be translated so I'd say that's fair. It's basically as Fire Emblem as you can get without an official trademark.

 

[Ultomato]

While we're on the topic, it's sad that Mario+Rabbids is the best Mario RPG since 2003.

*Laughs in Bowsers Inside Story

 

[Deleted member]

*Laughs in Bowsers Inside StoryView attachment 192863

*Cries in Paper Jam*

 

[Ultomato]

*Cries in Paper Jam*

I mean, Paper Jam sucked but you're acting as if that invalidates the entire series.

 

[Luigi The President]

True. The series of Fire Emblem isn't connected by the characters and settings, but rather the gameplay and themes.

Nah it tends to be connected by characters and settings too. SoV is pretty good proof of this for spoiler reasons.

 

[staindgrey]

• Shadows of Valentia: SoV isn't all that replayable, but there is an actual post-game that ties into Awakening and Archanea lore.

Oh ****. I forgot that SoV had a season pass. I didn't buy it because it was more expensive than the game.

What the hell is in all that DLC? Is it worth buying it for a second playthrough?

 

[Deleted member]

Speaking of FE, I've been interested in trying out one of the games so any suggestions?

 

[KMDP]

No but Fates has 3 versions, I assume Luigi's played them all, bless her.

Also I know we all love ****ting on Fates hut I REALLY hope they keep the personal skills everyone had, it's such a great idea helps make every unit feel more unique

Fates definitely did some things right, much to the haters' chagrin.

 

[Just a penguin]

*Cries in Paper Jam*

Playing Paper Jam is about as exciting and fun as your printer actually having a Paper Jam.

 

[Ultomato]

Nah it tends to be connected by characters and settings too. SoV is pretty good proof of this for spoiler reasons.

They like to make links and references to stress that everything (except Fates) is happening in the same world, but you rarely have games that litterally continue the same story (for more than a second game)

 

[Deleted member]

The Star Rod spirit makes me want to die, why Soccer Guy?

 

[ZephyrZ]

I don't actually think the issue with Corrin was the character themself. Sure they were boring and cliche but as blank slate protagonist that's a little forgivable.

The issue comes from how incredibly overbearing the player-pandering was. They made the entire freaking world revolve around them. It's supposed to be about a war but none of the characters in the world seem to care because they're all far more concerned about what happens to Corrin and it hijacks the story for the worst. One of the best part about FE stories is the tactics, worldbuilding and politics involved and that's all thrown away for forced, overdone and cliche drama.

 

[Lollipopped]

*Laughs in Bowsers Inside StoryView attachment 192863

*cries in 3DS sales*

 

[Deleted member]

I watched the first episode of Hilda, and I have to say, I enjoyed it!
It gives me a Terraria / Gravity Falls / Adventure Time feel.

Spoiler

There are no characters I dislike so far, which is a good start.
That rock troll scene makes me think one thing, is the troll going to be an important part of the series?
I know how it feels to not want to move in a city. I would never want to move to New York, honestly. I hate pollution.
I love the hidden people! Their conflict is so enjoyable!
I really like the fox dog thing.

Thank you Netflix.

 

[Iridium]

In Three Houses, we basically have Hogwarts. On paper, it is to me.

 

[Luigi The President]

I don't actually think the issue with Corrin was the character themselves. Sure they were boring and cliche but as blank slate protagonist that's a little forgivable.

The issue comes from how incredibly overbearing the player-pandering was. They made the entire freaking world revolve around them. It's supposed to be about a war but none of the characters in the world seem to care because they're all far more concerned about what happens to Corrin and it hijacks the story for the worst. One of the best part about FE stories is the tactics, worldbuilding and politics involved and that's all thrown away for forced, overdone and cliche drama.

Corrin is overtly privileged and the game wants to make you feel like Corrin is the underdog. It's funny.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I don't actually think the issue with Corrin was the character themselves. Sure they were boring and cliche but as blank slate protagonist that's a little forgivable.

The issue comes from how incredibly overbearing the player-pandering was. They made the entire freaking world revolve around them. It's supposed to be about a war but none of the characters in the world seem to care because they're all far more concerned about what happens to Corrin and it hijacks the story for the worst. One of the best part about FE stories is the tactics, worldbuilding and politics involved and that's all thrown away for forced, overdone and cliche drama.

...Fire Emblem Fates was an Isekai anime in disguise all along... I can't ****ing believe it

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Awakening

Anyways, what's this I've been hearing about Persona 5's creator being a homophobe?

yo.

 

[staindgrey]

Fates definitely did some things right, much to the haters' chagrin.

It did, but I think the haters' assertion that none of those things done right came together in a full experience.

I will absolutely say without any hesitation that Fates, on the whole, is the worst FE game. I will not say however that it's irredeemable garbage. There are things I liked. There are a hell of a lot of worse games out there.

 

[Deleted member]

Yoshi's Island (Melee) sucks, holy ****.

 

[KMDP]

Speaking of FE, I've been interested in trying out one of the games so any suggestions?

It depends.

The best games to start with are:

Fire Emblem: The Blazing Blade (called just "Fire Emblem" in the west) - Comes with a built-in 10 Chapter Tutorial (unskippable on first-time playthroughs).
Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones - Has a world map with "Skirmishes" (non-Chapter battles), which allow for grinding.
Fire Emblem: Awakening - Same as Sacred Stones, it's deliberately designed to be newcomer friendly. You can also turn off Perma-Death in this game.

 

[Deleted member]

yo.

I don't get it.

 

[Ultomato]

Speaking of FE, I've been interested in trying out one of the games so any suggestions?

Oooohh, tricky question. Your view of the games depends heavily on where you enter the series.

As a starter, Binding Blade, Sword of Flames, Sacred Stones and Shadow Dragon are good ways of getting introduced to Fire Emblem.
Awakening is the best of you want to get into modern Fire Emblem.

 

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Oh ****. I forgot that SoV had a season pass. I didn't buy it because it was more expensive than the game.

What the hell is in all that DLC? Is it worth buying it for a second playthrough?

There are a few backstory chapters but most it is for obtaining items to class up units to an exclusive 3rd Tier Class.

It's up to you, though it may be worth it if you want to attempt to beat the post-game Dungeon without an annoying amount of planning ahead with Pitchfork items & extra grinding.

 

[Yoshisaurus Rex]

In Three Houses, we basically have Hogwarts. On paper, it is to me.

Not just Hogwarts, Pokemon Go as well.

 

[TheMightyP]

Yoshi's Island (Melee) sucks, holy ****.

It gets worse and worse by each installment

 

[Deleted member]

Oooohh, tricky question. Your view of the games depends heavily on where you enter the series.

As a starter, Binding Blade, Sword of Flames, Sacred Stones and Shadow Dragon are good ways of getting introduced to Fire Emblem.
Awakening is the best of you want to get into modern Fire Emblem.

Fates is the best if you want a rubbish protagonist.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

I don't think I coulda mentally handled Birthright
I did complete Nohr and Revelations though
However Corrin's been just as bland ever since

I actually really enjoyed Fates, though

Nohr could of been the base game and Id be 100% ok with that

 

[PsySmasher]

I don't actually think the issue with Corrin was the character themselves. Sure they were boring and cliche but as blank slate protagonist that's a little forgivable.

The issue comes from how incredibly overbearing the player-pandering was. They made the entire freaking world revolve around them. It's supposed to be about a war but none of the characters in the world seem to care because they're all far more concerned about what happens to Corrin and it hijacks the story for the worst. One of the best part about FE stories is the tactics, worldbuilding and politics involved and that's all thrown away for forced, overdone and cliche drama.

Yeah, although I personally didn't play through all of Fates (I suck at strategy games), I could tell that the story reminded me of some Isekai anime.

And as someone who somewhat enjoys those anime, I'm not sure I wanted it here.

Also, hi everyone.

 

[Deleted member]

I watched the first episode of Hilda, and I have to say, I enjoyed it!
It gives me a Terraria / Gravity Falls / Adventure Time feel.

Spoiler

There are no characters I dislike so far, which is a good start.
That rock troll scene makes me think one thing, is the troll going to be an important part of the series?
I know how it feels to not want to move in a city. I would never want to move to New York, honestly. I hate pollution.
I love the hidden people! Their conflict is so enjoyable!
I really like the fox dog thing.

Thank you Netflix.

Oh, mandatory @Shishœ tag.

 

[Deleted member]

It gets worse and worse by each installment

No one dies, and if you use Side-B as Meta Knight in the middle of the stage you just SD, holy ****.

 

[staindgrey]

I don't actually think the issue with Corrin was the character themselves. Sure they were boring and cliche but as blank slate protagonist that's a little forgivable.

The issue comes from how incredibly overbearing the player-pandering was. They made the entire freaking world revolve around them. It's supposed to be about a war but none of the characters in the world seem to care because they're all far more concerned about what happens to Corrin and it hijacks the story for the worst. One of the best part about FE stories is the tactics, worldbuilding and politics involved and that's all thrown away for forced, overdone and cliche drama.

^ ^ ^ This.

I remember on my first playthrough of Conquest I stopped playing at one point and texted my brother because I needed to share with someone the stupidity of "I'm a leader of men with lots of battle experience and Corrin's a child we kidnapped and held in a tower her entire life but now that I've joined her cause I think I should just let her make all the decisions".

Like, Corrin can be the player avatar and the central focus of the story without being the only focus of the story.

 

[Ultomato]

*cries in 3DS sales*

So we're... Judging a game by its remake?
Wtf?

 

[ClaTheBae]

No one dies, and if you use Side-B as Meta Knight in the middle of the stage you just SD, holy ****.

lol then dont use meta knight side b in neutral