cutter
Smash Champion
It's gonna be a real ****storm at SRK once the game's out. It'll be like when Brawl was just released...
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Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3: Fate of Two Worlds
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Zero_Gamer
Smash Master
I eagerly await the entertaining threads to be made.
LivewiresXe
Smash Hero
I've kind of stopped really caring about SRK with how utterly elitist they've been from what I noticed. Not a very newbie friendly or constructive way to expand scenes.
ETWIST51294
Smash Hero
SRK is full of elitist *******s and scrubs from unity. But the *******s have always been there so idc about them (plus im basically one of them) and the scrubs get flamed for being ******** in no time because they should just take their *** back to unity.
Thrillhouse-vh.
Smash Hero
Smash is worse.
ETWIST51294
Smash Hero
nahhhh smash doesnt **** on new people nearly as bad. We troll them while srk flames them. But in smash scrubs and noobs normally quit so wgaf.
LivewiresXe
Smash Hero
Yeah, I kinda suck at Brawl and Melee and kinda reached the point of not being able to get better so that IS part of why I stopped playing it seriously, lol.
ETWIST51294
Smash Hero
im good at melee but have no one to play due to me moving so i basically quit.
DLO
Smash Journeyman
Seriously.
You see a Character Request Thread! Cool, now i can see what people want in, even idiot ideas can be cool sometimes!!!!
Oh, an user requesting Megaman X! Cool!
*two pages after that*
Oh, the same user requesting X again.
This, for 7900 pages. Seriously, shut the hell up, we ****ing know what you want after 7000+ pages.
Get A Load of This!
Smash Journeyman
Picked up TvC again...prefer back + assist tag ins as opposed to holding the assist button like in MvC3 for some reason.
Zero_Gamer
Smash Master
I wonder if TvC really is closer to MvC3 than MvC2.
Get A Load of This!
Smash Journeyman
From what I got to play, not really that close. Biggest differences being the obvious third character, and the lack of mega crash and baroque and assists are more important.
edit: didn't say anything about mvc2 because the only notable differences I know are the number of buttons and a launcher button. Not really sure about much else.
edit: didn't say anything about mvc2 because the only notable differences I know are the number of buttons and a launcher button. Not really sure about much else.
ETWIST51294
Smash Hero
and i like the mvc2 way better cuz its better than both. Theyre both dumb as hell and pointless.
Masmasher@
Smash Lord
why do people want something in thats destined to suck ***
Minato
穏やかじゃない
Holding down Assist isn't too bad. Although it does take away raw tagging as a strategy to turn things around.
A problem for me in MvC3 is that you can't really follow up if your tag in hits the opponent.
A problem for me in MvC3 is that you can't really follow up if your tag in hits the opponent.
Then why are you even in this thread if you think the game's dumb and pointless?
Again, I really don't remember that being a viable strategy in MvC2.
He's not talking about the game itself, he's just talking about the tagging out mechanics.
ETWIST51294
Smash Hero
Yeah, i was talking about how its literally pointless to not put in the much better tagging system from mvc2. Its like they just keep it in just because they dont wanna seem wrong.
Zero_Gamer
Smash Master
Capcompetence.
A new level of stupid.
Exchanging in the air seems solid and as long as we have good DHCs things'll be fine.
A new level of stupid.
Exchanging in the air seems solid and as long as we have good DHCs things'll be fine.
Minato
穏やかじゃない
Well, raw tagging shouldn't be done all the time to begin with. But it can help at times.
It's just one of those situational things that can help out some lower tier characters due to being open after DHCs or Alpha Counters.
But you're right since generally DHCing is usually the better option.
Oh well, I guess it's a trade off considering tag ins are overheads now.
Thrillhouse-vh.
Smash Hero
As someone who has played the game more than once, I can verify that the current tag-in system IS dumb and pointless. That being said hating that feature =/= hating the game
It's really not.
Minato
穏やかじゃない
Anyone want to play me in MvC2 tonight on PSN? Just trying to get better.
My PSN is Izanagi_XIII
My PSN is Izanagi_XIII
Zero_Gamer
Smash Master
Same question, but for XBL. :o
Also, good to know MvC3 isn't like TvC, but how close does it feel to MvC2? Is it similar enough to end MvC2 on release?
Also, good to know MvC3 isn't like TvC, but how close does it feel to MvC2? Is it similar enough to end MvC2 on release?
ETWIST51294
Smash Hero
aside from being really fast and extremly combo heavy, its the same. They took out the fun stuff. But that doesnt mean its not fun.
And im getting tired of this repetitive laucher air combo knock down otg super ****.
And im getting tired of this repetitive laucher air combo knock down otg super ****.
What?
I know what you mean but this still looks weird out of context.
How did Magneto play in MvC2 again? Get in with some pokes, ROM infinite, Hypergrav Tempest, DHC into Hailstorm?
How did Storm play in MvC2 again? Get in with some pokes, launch, Magic series, 2 Lightning Attacks, Lightning Storm, DHC into HSF or Magnetic Shockwave?
Aren't those fundamentally the same as doing ground string, launcher, air string, super?
Thrillhouse-vh.
Smash Hero
You forgot to put Psylocke in that equation, the queen of OTG assists. That seems to be Wesker now (judging by videos)
That's what I get for reading a thread fast when I should be getting ready for work >.<
ETWIST51294
Smash Hero
This may be true (actually its true for every fighting game), but this difference with mvc3 is that EVERY ****ING CHARACTER DOES THE SAME BORING *** BNB. Lauch air comb knockdown otg super. Every.....char. Besides like dante and zero.
cutter
Smash Champion
Raw tagging was HORRIBLE in MvC2. It was like a deathwish if you raw tagged. When you see people DHC just to swap out characters, that alone should tell you how bad raw tagging is.
Pretty sure there's going to be a hell of a lot more to the game than just ground series -> launch -> air series -> knockdown -> OTG super. It's not like we're going to have the entire guts of the game spilled already in the current beta builds.
ETWIST51294
Smash Hero
but they buffed tagging in 3. i was talking about the way you tag in 2, not how good it was.
yeah i figured. i just felt like complaining about something. lol
Atlus8
Smash Master
I agree! I hope there is some way to tech from that OTG s#!+
Minato
穏やかじゃない
You can tech roll in the game still. It's just like MvC2, but the point where you can tech roll is a little bit later at certain points like at the end of air combos.
And I agree with Gates. MvC2 was almost the same thing. Storm was just combo, launch, to super. Every character had their BnB, just some had it easier.
MvC3 is just letting characters that are more ground base have a chance to do a combo to super, that's all.
A lot of the grounded characters in MvC2 were screwed without an assist while characters that had tri jumps and stuff had an easier time.
Think of it as being able to combo into Ultra in SFIV. The characters that had it had better advantage in Vanilla.
Edit: I don't mind there being BnBs like these. But I'm hoping that resets will be more useful in the long run.
And I agree with Gates. MvC2 was almost the same thing. Storm was just combo, launch, to super. Every character had their BnB, just some had it easier.
MvC3 is just letting characters that are more ground base have a chance to do a combo to super, that's all.
A lot of the grounded characters in MvC2 were screwed without an assist while characters that had tri jumps and stuff had an easier time.
Think of it as being able to combo into Ultra in SFIV. The characters that had it had better advantage in Vanilla.
Edit: I don't mind there being BnBs like these. But I'm hoping that resets will be more useful in the long run.
Let's go through the list:
Marvel
Cap doesn't have one.
Deadpool doesn't have one.
Doom's super photons can do it, but this is nothing new.
Dormammu can maybe do one with his level 3, but at the very least he can do OTG specials like spikes and Blackheart's move (forget what it's called).
Hulk has two but he's also slow and has the biggest hitbox in the game and some of the worst mobility in the game, so frankly, he needs it.
Iron Man's level 1 supers definitely can't, and idk if his level 3 can either.
Magneto has Magnetic Shockwave, so this is nothing new either, but his level 3 does now, which is something new.
I don't think MODOK can, but if you think he's evolved beyond the joys of OTG combos...
She-Hulk can combo into her level 2 super OTG using her command dash, but I don't think her level 3 functions as an OTG per se since I've only ever seen her use it on an opponent who's getting up (in fact, I'm starting to think it has the properties of a grab).
Spider-Man doesn't have one.
Super-Skrull can and he has lots of ways to do it (Tenderizer -> Human Torch dive, Inferno, level 3?).
One of Thor's supers is kind of like Magnetic Tempest and his Super Tornado probably hits OTG too.
Wolverine has Berserker Barrage but idk if it hits OTG.
X-23 doesn't have supers that hit OTG but she does have normals that do cna can be super-canceled.
Capcom
Wesker I have no idea but it doesn't look like it.
Amaterasu has several (level 3, time stop, normal super).
Arthur has one but it's his level 3.
I'm not exactly sure how Chris' level 3 works, but I think he might be able to do it OTG. That or his grenade launcher super.
Chun-Li can probably do it with Kikosho.
Dante can't hit any of his supers OTG but he can do a relaunch. In fact his BnB is launch, air series, belial edge, relaunch, air series, flame move, gun super (KFC, dash, spinning gun attack, gun super for 100% http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgVNQlZPtGY)
Felicia I know nothing about.
Morrigan's level 3 doesn't hit OTG and I doubt her other supers do either.
Nathan doesn't have one from what I can tell, but he presumably has one more super that hasn't been shown, so who knows.
Ryu can probably do it with a TK
idk if Trish can, maybe with her TK beam super.
Tron has her King Servbot, but its usefulness is dicey.
Viewtiful Joe can probably do 6 Machine Cannon but nothing else.
Zero has one (air series -> flying screen -> ground pound super) and his level 3 probably can too.
So yeah, I guess you're right, a ton of people do have them. Still, what's so bad about it?
Can anyone who's played the game **cough**Minato**cough** confirm any of this for me?
Well yeah, I don't think anyone's arguing that the new way is better, but if tagging in is as unsafe in 3 as it was in 2 then it won't make much difference.
I read this as "I gave Zero_Gamer my password".
Minato
穏やかじゃない
To me, OTG Super is no different than Air combo to super. That's just how I see it.
Deadpool can OTG with his katana special which then knocks them towards the wall which you can super off of.
Iron Man's Smart Bombs can OTG, I believe, as well. So maybe you can launch, combo, OTG with Smart Bomb to Proton Canon.
It could have been Repulsor Blast, or maybe even both can OTG.
Then again, I don't know if these combos are tight enough where they don't have enough time to tech roll out of.
If you count OTG specials to super, Deadpool and possibly Iron Man count.
Deadpool can OTG with his katana special which then knocks them towards the wall which you can super off of.
Iron Man's Smart Bombs can OTG, I believe, as well. So maybe you can launch, combo, OTG with Smart Bomb to Proton Canon.
It could have been Repulsor Blast, or maybe even both can OTG.
Then again, I don't know if these combos are tight enough where they don't have enough time to tech roll out of.
ETWIST51294
Smash Hero
i just like some diversity in combos i guess. It doesnt matter tho. And i posted this a hour ago but i guess my phone was being stupid.
It's the same for me.
I think it might have been Repulsor Blast too. Either that or his standing fierce, I know that usually pops them up for a combo.
Iron Dragon
Smash Lord
http://shoryuken.com/content/shoryu...th-killian-marvel-vs-capcom-3-specifics-2686/
Just thought this might be neccesary to post for those interested =)
Just thought this might be neccesary to post for those interested =)