Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3: Fate of Two Worlds

[Shin Kaizoku]

idk people seem to do it on wakeup a lot, and it's invincible right after the flash. idk what frame it comes out on though

I think the invincibility starts a frame later now. Either that or it has an extra frame of startup.

 

[smashbot226]

So this is probably old as hell by now but I got featured in one of Maximillian's videos.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tj-4573XjkE

Guy at the 9:25 mark, although I go by the name Perfection 117 on XBL. Gimme a message if you ever want to spar.

 

[Jigglymaster]

So this is probably old as hell by now but I got featured in one of Maximillian's videos.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tj-4573XjkE

Guy at the 9:25 mark, although I go by the name Perfection 117 on XBL. Gimme a message if you ever want to spar.

I was on Episode 7 of his series and I haven't been able to get into another match with him since, and I'm the same rank as he is.

I've gotta find what times he's playing that game lol

 

[Brightside6382]

depending on what assist, i'd say it's still a good idea to air grab him? idk it seems like it'd be easy to tech throw that. but then at least you're in his face

It's a lot harder then you would first think because his grapple acts as an active hit box the whole time. If you try to fall back and meet him with the air grab you eat the hook. If you try and run forward you run into whatever assist he has if he's a competant player. The best option honestly is to just see it SJ out to avoid that nonsense in general and just reposition.

 

[choknater]

hm alright, good advice

 

[Jigglymaster]

Depending on what character I have on point is what I do against spencer's air grapple + assist.

Chris: Standing shotgun, usually the tip of the shot will get him, but it hasn't been too useful.
Frank: Superjump to Knee Drop. This works alot for me and I can follow it up.
Ammy: Okami Shuffle
Rocky: Tunnel Rat H, wait for the assist to finish and then crossup.

 

[smashbot226]

Alternatively, you can teleport. That sort of screws up Spencer's approach game, especially if the teleport isn't relative to enemy position, such as Skrull's/Deadpool's. On the subject of Skrull, it's roughly a 70/30 in Skrull's favor since Skrull can grab Spencer out of the air with Heavy Elastic Slam. And since Spencer has no realistic approach outside of short-hop ziplining, it's very bad. He can have a projectile assist protecting him but then you've got an air dash that puts you above Spencer and an aerial command normal that causes ground bounce on hit. And if you're really screw, you can Meteor Smash away.

Haggar has the ground pipe, which causes ground bounce on airborne opponents. You can naturally cancel it into light Hoodlum Launcher before he hits the ground or even just the standing S launcher.

MODOK causes some problems for Spencer as well, although his large hurtbox sort of makes it difficult. You can spam Medium Analyze Cube to block off aerial approaches and be a troll in general and if you have any Levels of Understanding, enhanced Barrier completely screws up Spencer's approach outside of Bionic Lancing through it.

 

[L__]

does anyone here know anything about jill?

i've seen like one video of her or something and she looked kinda fun

 

[MysteryRevengerson]

You know a game's good when a kid can beat Fanatiq

 

[smashbot226]

does anyone here know anything about jill?

i've seen like one video of her or something and she looked kinda fun

I don't use her too often but what I do know:

1. Her Machine Gun Spray super is invincible at the start, letting you get out of bad corner situations and possibly cancel out other supers.

2. Her Somersault assist is amazing to crossover counter into, as it's entirely invincible and jump cancelable.

3. Doesn't exactly need meter to deal damage, although her damage output isn't as good without it. Even then it's rather low.

4. Very high learning curve, as her aerial approach options are next to none and she's very technical, arguably moreso than C. Viper.

 

[L__]

Those reasons made me really want to play her

The 4th being the most alluring

 

[choknater]

You know a game's good when a kid can beat Fanatiq

LOLOL

what happened here????

emp_beyonzo

 

[GunmasterLombardi]

I'm gonna have to cheat on Richard Rider with Doom. Spiderman (a)/ Doom (b)/ Ammy (b)

@Brightside, I have like 3 different web throw combos but I only use one with Doom missiles cause it's easy to do under lag. Very rarely in our online matches did you finish your web throw combos.

 

[smashbot226]

Those reasons made me really want to play her

The 4th being the most alluring

Do it. Jill is probably the least player character outside of Hsien Ko and Tron.

I'm gonna have to cheat on Richard Rider with Doom. Spiderman (a)/ Doom (b)/ Ammy (b)

@Brightside, I have like 3 different web throw combos but I only use one with Doom missiles cause it's easy to do under lag. Very rarely in our online matches did you finish your web throw combos.

Another one falls to the Foot Dive. Don't worry, Skrull will take care of you.

 

[choknater]

what should be done to punish a foot dive on block that isn't air dash canceled? he lags for quite a while after, right?

 

[smashbot226]

what should be done to punish a foot dive on block that isn't air dash canceled? he lags for quite a while after, right?

Depends on your team. Haggar, for instance, can probably pipe his metal *** back into the ground. Skrull can backdash and then Heavy Elastic Slam. Dunno who you main, unfortunately.

 

[choknater]

my main point character is x-23

 

[GunmasterLombardi]

If they don't airdash after a blocked footdive they bad w/ Doom like me. I blame it on cold hands...

I like how people look at my record (~1300W - 500L) then message "don't quit" (cause I would quit a lot of games. I'VE CUT DOWN ON IT THOUGH). Then I win and they quit on me.

HA! What a joke. JD797 and tadpolejones. Message them on PSN if you want free wins.

 

[Jigglymaster]

Just got my first perfect on ranked today. With RR/Frank/Wesker

I didn't even realize I didn't get hit until I had won.

 

[Ugg]

what should be done to punish a foot dive on block that isn't air dash canceled? he lags for quite a while after, right?

Anything, he's in cooldown until he hits the ground. Raw launcher is never a bad idea.

 

[smashbot226]

my main point character is x-23

Hmm. While I don't really play as her, I do recall how freakin' far her command dashes go. Perhaps you can have an invincible assist or one that strikes out people in the air so you can dash right under him, then regular dash to catch him. I know I said I don't play X-23 that often, but I do know you can call assists during the priming phase of the dash.

 

[GunmasterLombardi]

Just got my first perfect on ranked today. With RR/Frank/Wesker

I didn't even realize I didn't get hit until I had won.

I've gotten like 5 perfects in ranked.

And I didn't need lightning loops. **** Mihe.

 

[Pikaville]

You don't know **** about perfects until you get one with Akuma on point.

Also I don't know if you guys have ever seen/done this.

But if you DHC at the last possible second before beating your opponent, the character comes in and it skips all the stuff at the end.

Then it goes straight to the victory screen before the announcer even says "Player x wins"

 

[Brightside6382]

I'm gonna have to cheat on Richard Rider with Doom. Spiderman (a)/ Doom (b)/ Ammy (b)

@Brightside, I have like 3 different web throw combos but I only use one with Doom missiles cause it's easy to do under lag. Very rarely in our online matches did you finish your web throw combos.

If you know them do them. No point in dumbing down your overall game just because its online.

But anyways... My 3 week expedition with online marvel has been pretty fun! My interest has be waning lately though. Every ranked matches now is just randoms who don't know how to use Vergil/Dante/XXX. Does the competition get better or is this pretty much the plateau of online? I'm currently a 3rd Lord and the thought of trying to rank up playing against these people is a terribly boring prospect.

 

[TL?]

Wow third lord, that's patience. I got tired of Vergil/Dante/Wesker at 7th lord. I don't really like online anyways, it really is a completely different game due to the lag.

 

[Jigglymaster]

I've been to like, only three Marvel tournaments since it came out last year. I want to go to more, but I just can't seem to find one when i'm available.

I live close enough to that 8 on the break place, but its only on tuesdays and I'm at college -_-

So I spend a **** load of time on online instead, as thats my only way of improving. Sitting at 3rd lord also atm.

 

[Pikaville]

I play high too often to possibly rank up.

Also because everyone uses Vergil/Dante/Wesker or Hawkeye.

 

[Turazrok]

I love this game but I drop all the combos.

I suck.

 

[Pikaville]

Go hit the lab till you aren't dropping combos anymore.

 

[Turazrok]

Go hit the lab till you aren't dropping combos anymore.

Me trying to bold cancel is a painful repetition of failure.

I don't drop my dorm combos though.. I got those.

 

[Brightside6382]

I play high too often to possibly rank up.

Also because everyone uses Vergil/Dante/Wesker or Hawkeye.

They all don't know how to use Vergil/Dante though. Just sit crouching full screen and 99% of them are compelled to try and teleport with Vergil without an assist. For the Dante's just walk them to the corner and as they keep hitting S and hammers in panics just chicken block and punish. Those people are a joke.

 

[Pikaville]

Vergil and Dante aren't really the problem.

It's Dark Wesker and Spameye that are.

 

[mood4food77]

dark wesker isn't a problem once you block, seriously

block his string once, x-factor, you win

hawkeye online gives me nightmares *shutters*

okay, as much as i hate zero, i think viper might be even cheaper, seriously, ex-seismo is the most broken **** in this game, why can she cancel everything into that move?
i have so much joy in watching marlinpie wreck **** with her

wait, did marlinpie have some ammy swag at curlehmustache? i think so

AND 2 FEMALE COMMENTATORS?!? WTF IS GOING ON?!?

 

[smashbot226]

hawkeye gives me nightmares

Skrull user here, get on my level

 

[mood4food77]

i'm a new skrull user, but i haven't played the game in a while so...

i also haven't really gotten to use firebrand/skrull against hawkeye yet so..

 

[smashbot226]

i'm a new skrull user, but i haven't played the game in a while so...

i also haven't really gotten to use firebrand/skrull against hawkeye yet so..

Skrull has Meteor Smash. On its own it obviously isn't safe but if you cover it with a projectile assist- I use Taskmaster's Horizontal Arrows, for example- it makes for a great pressure tool. And to my knowledge, Firebrand can weave around Hawkeye's projectiles rather easily if you superjump cancel into his command air dashes. Really though, Hawkeye is only stupid when he has Level 3 X-Factor or you have no good assists covering you. Haggar-Hawkeye match up is almost as bad as Haggar-Dormammu and I still manage to get the mayor in that cocky archer's face.

 

[mood4food77]

firebrand/skrull/sentinel

pretty sure i got the assist covered

 

[smashbot226]

firebrand/skrull/sentinel

pretty sure i got the assist covered

Hawkeye no-lube ***** Sentinel and I'm curious as to which assist you go with for Skrull. Assuming you're using Drones, it shouldn't be too difficult to get in Hawkeye's face.

Back on Skrull, in vanilla, Orbital Grudge was great due to soft knockdown and armor. Since Orbital Grudge lost the soft knockdown, nowadays I defer to Stone Smite. Tenderizer is just too rough on the damage/hitstun scaling and leaves him out in the open for too long.

 

[GunmasterLombardi]

I wish Cap would shine more. He's pretty sat on like Spiderman and no one places well with either character.

 

[mood4food77]

tenderizer for the lockdown lulz, snap back opponent, call tenderizer, unblockable set-up, free combo