Why are you asking me this specifically?
Kantrip died from either a mafia or an indy kill. I'm pretty sure that Soup shot Le Night 1 (I remember a post where he suggested that the vig shot the indy, which I'm interpreting as him crumbing that he killed Le. I can pull it up if you want.). Night 2 I'm guessing that Soup shot Raz since Raz was his one big scumread. Again this means that either mafia or the indy tried to kill Soup.
So either both the indie and mafia targetted the same person Night 1 & 2, or their kill failed for whatever reason. This is speculation, but this may mean that one of the indie or mafia (leaning indie with Ran's claim) targetted YOU OS. And you were protected. Huh.
Btw OS, what lead you to believe that there was a vig Day 2? In your case against Chuckie, you said that the vig and the mafia killed two people, and that Chuckie recruited someone else. Tell me, why did you think that there was a vig in the game? Why not just assume that the two kills were the result of the mafia and indy, respectively?
@RR: If you're telling the truth about that doctor thing, then you were being awfully sloppy not to mention that before.
Btw, just to be clear RR, you're saying that you targeted OS Night 2, right?
Because I'm a vigilante backup, and I have the strongman characteristic. Hard to see why there wouldn't be a vig if I'm a backup of one. I was confused at Ranmaru's claim because I
am a strong man, but it doesn't say so in my role name. It's a modifier within my role.
Regardless, I have soup's vigilante ability. I didn't use it because shooting incorrectly would have been game over.
With 9 players left (assuming I shot + mafia kill) and 4 mafia (6 presents, 1 inquisitor, 1 La B, 4 mafia), that would have resulted in a 4 man voting block of scum needing 5 to lynch, meaning they could alpha strike almost immediately after someone voted. 8 left, followed by a mafia night kill would mean 7, add in a vig kill and we're at 6. Mafia wins by default with or without the vig kill.
I asked you specifically because you've taken a leading role in my absence and that's pretty notable. I wanted to hear your take on things. If you're going to get lynched, it's going to be because I'm attacking you in thread and currently I've got nada on you. That's not good if you're scum, so I need to watch you.
I'm cleared of being a mafia strongman because if I had just killed someone we would have been in lylo and, being a strongman, there's nothing that could have stopped me. If someone wants to openly claim they roleblocked me, go for it, but our jailer is dead and I'm positive nothing of the sort occurred because there has been no suspicion on me since the beginning until Ranmaru's claim.
ANYWAY
Given our situation of mislynch + lylo I believe scum can win this with a single mislynch. Given this I can see scum attempting to fake claim something incriminating to get another lynch as it'd be the easiest way to guarantee a win. Given that I ended the previous Day criticizing the list of inactives, the fact that Red Ryu came up with something on PJB (another inactive) seemed too good to be true. Ranmaru's claim on me was another one that caught my eye; why would he openly claim out of the blue like that and only had that result shown? But he seemed to be really bouncing around with it. It wasn't focused, and the strongman additive was true for my role. After reading how his role works, I have no problem with Ranmaru.
Red Ryu is my primary scumpick for toDay. I believe he messed up his claim because he didn't think about our perception of the setup. I think mafia tried to kill someone and it didn't work and they're using that to their advantage.
We had a poison doctor. Who is doing the poisoning? Scum! The inquisitor doesn't poison, soup didn't poison. Unless there's a town poisoner somewhere (doubtful given my role), that is mafia's method of killing. We know that they don't have poison + night kill + inquisitor night kill + vig kill in this game going on simultaneously due to the amount of death that has shown up.
There was no kill last night, yet our poison doctor is dead. This means that scum failed on someone who was bulletproof or scum was roleblocked not last Night, but the PREVIOUS Night. Poison on N3, death on N4.
If someone roleblocked someone on N3, btw, claim? Because that's who we'd want to lynch.
Red Ryu claims that he gets the role that was previously lynched, yet he gives himself doctor, not jailer, on the first night? I still do not get this. Chemist vig? Do not understand the chemist modifier. Why was it added when he describes that he is literally a standard vigilante?
red ryu said:
I'm Shu Nakajima, town genius.
Whoever gets lynched I turn into a one night back up for them or in N2s case whoever dies first.
In this case he would have gotten Raziek's role, not Soup's, as Raziek died first! I do not understand how he could possibly mess this up with a fake claim.
That is the only thing that gives me pause: how damn sloppy Red Ryu's claim has been. I could understand there being two vigilante backups in that Red Ryu doesn't have the same role for more than one Night, but I can't understand him claiming "I get the role of whoever was lynched or night killed first" and claiming he got different roles.
Red Ryu, are we getting your night actions correctly?
Please claim all the roles you've received and in what order, and what you did with them, in a nice clean list.
Because so far I see this:
Day 1 - Rajam, town jailer, dies.
Red Ryu gets DOC role for night 1. Protects Overswarm.
Night 1 (start of day 2)- Kantrip, town Detective, dies. La B, shadow inquisitor aspect, dies.
Red Ryu gets... nothing
Day 2 - Chuckie, town Posu-Doctor, dies.
Red Ryu gets... poison doctor. Protects Overswarm.
Night 2 - Raziek, town volunteer backup (jailer), dies. Soup, town vig, dies. Ryker, shadow inquisitor, dies.
No Day 3.
Night 3 - No one dies.
Red Ryu gets... Chemist Vig role. Shoots PJB.
Day 4 begins.
Is this right?
You didn't get any other roles?
Also,
why did you shoot PJB when that would have ended the game for town if you hit town?
Bardull said:
It's a part of Persona 4, which I recommend you try out when you're not playing with your Wii...U. Basically, personas act as "masks" that people wear to deal with life's many troubles, and "shadows" are essentially the truths and ideals that lay behind one's mask that are being suppressed because these truths/ideals aren't accepted by society.
"Those who face their own personal Shadows in the Midnight Channel and accept them can use their power as Personas while those who deny their shadows as part of themselves will be attacked and killed by them or disappear completely if the person was malicious and cruel, and Igor eventually states outright that they are one and the same."
So do you think this is just flavor then? The independents were listed as "Shadow". I wouldn't expect Ranmaru to claim his role as being modified if he was recruited though.
Kary said:
who do you want to lynch toDay?
At the moment Red Ryu, but not until we use the day phase to its fullest. Even if we kill Red Ryu scum we still have to do this all again tomorrow. No sense in rushing a lynch on anyone even if we have a guilty cop call on them at this point.
