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[Atomsk_92]

i'd play you if i can use the controller

 

[Ken34]

i'd play you if i can use the controller

ok, if me and SS come to the next one, we'll definetly bring marvel.

 

[Oorah-Kabra]

I think this idea is great... Me being a newcomer myself, I feel as though I haven't had my chance to prove myself. Although, beating ranked people is what really sparks some attention. But It would also give us a chance to rise and practice without getting owned in the face. Besides, maybe an unranked tournament will shed some light on people who might be runners for getting ranked?

 

[Legendaryhero]

**** straight OOOAODUOAJDLAHARAH i feel the same way i think that there are some of us who may be clawing away at those bottom spots in the power ranking some people who come to mind are urself, jfox, mog, i think people just don't get to see these guys perform because either they have too easy a match or too difficult a match for their caliber every time they play in tourny.

 

[Atomsk_92]

Ken34 whos your team in MVC2?

 

[Legendaryhero]

Ken34 whos your team in MVC2?

i feel that this conversation isn't really relevent to this topic and i think other will agree... exchange aims and talk about mvc2. as much as i love the game lets keep this topic smash related if at all possible.

 

[Ken34]

Ken34 whos your team in MVC2?

my main team use to be Storm, Sent, Cable. but ive been experimenting with alot of different variations, but if i had to bet money, i would prolly still put it on that team.

i feel that this conversation isn't really relevent to this topic and i think other will agree... exchange aims and talk about mvc2. as much as i love the game lets keep this topic smash related if at all possible.

woops, my bad, i agree, sorry.

WoZ Edit: Try not to double post. Thanks!

 

[Atomsk_92]

i feel that this conversation isn't really relevent to this topic and i think other will agree... exchange aims and talk about mvc2. as much as i love the game lets keep this topic smash related if at all possible.

sorry this well be the last sentence

my main team use to be Storm, Sent, Cable. but ive been experimenting with alot of different variations, but if i had to bet money, i would prolly still put it on that team.

I use Shuma Sent and Jin

OKAY NOW BACK TO SMASH

 

[Oorah-Kabra]

Lol thanks Legendary Hero for the compliment, and i def agree with those other names.

For the record, those of you who can not pronounce or do not feel like pronouncing my name properly, just do what legendaryhero did... "OOOAODUOAJDLAHARAH" or any other gurggle that comes out of your throat (as long as it starts with Oor and ends with Ahh) is fine with me... If you are unsure of how it works, go to velocity, he was the first to mess the name up real bad lol...

PS: If we end up doing this unranked tourney, i hope some of you ranked people still come and support, id hate to feel rejected lol.

 

[Warrior of Zarona]

In the future, if you plan on having such a conversation, keep it on AIM please.

I'll be in California when this event happens, if I didn't mention it beforehand. The rest of TSA will be handling this completely without me.

 

[Atomsk_92]

Lol thanks Legendary Hero for the compliment, and i def agree with those other names.

For the record, those of you who can not pronounce or do not feel like pronouncing my name properly, just do what legendaryhero did... "OOOAODUOAJDLAHARAH" or any other gurggle that comes out of your throat (as long as it starts with Oor and ends with Ahh) is fine with me... If you are unsure of how it works, go to velocity, he was the first to mess the name up real bad lol...

PS: If we end up doing this unranked tourney, i hope some of you ranked people still come and support, id hate to feel rejected lol.

and i thought my name was hard to say correctly

i should have made it Tsuzuketeraru, or Saga****erundarou I'M NOT USING IT AS THE CURSE SO I'M NOT TRYING TO PASS THE FILTER

 

[Legendaryhero]

cali woz? hit up some of them bodacious babes for me ok

 

[BUM163]

ken34 u don't understand nothin.i just recently beat pc chris 4 the first time eva.2 me itz a huge accomplishment n who plays wit dk?i'll wait 4 u 2 tell me.i learn how 2 play by myself no one taught me.the only thing people told me was wavedashin n shield dashin everything i had 2 pratice that myself.if u can't learn 2 do things urself u r weak.i'm not greedy nor conceited but i'm not about 2 just give up tips that i pratice myself 4 free.if so ask m2k or ken or isai or wes n see if they would teach u things lol.highly doubt it.all u got 2 do is train n dedicated urself 2 winnin.thatz wat i do.i analyze on the player.anyway my aol name is oni163 if anyone eva wanna play sum matches message me on there

 

[Atomsk_92]

ken34 u don't understand nothin.i just recently beat pc chris 4 the first time eva.2 me itz a huge accomplishment n who plays wit dk?i'll wait 4 u 2 tell me.i learn how 2 play by myself no one taught me.the only thing people told me was wavedashin n shield dashin everything i had 2 pratice that myself.if u can't learn 2 do things urself u r weak.i'm not greedy nor conceited but i'm not about 2 just give up tips that i pratice myself 4 free.if so ask m2k or ken or isai or wes n see if they would teach u things lol.highly doubt it.all u got 2 do is train n dedicated urself 2 winnin.thatz wat i do.i analyze on the player.anyway my aol name is oni163 if anyone eva wanna play sum matches message me on there

TRUE WORDS OF A GOOD PLAYER lol

can i get rounds in with you at the bi weekly

 

[Ken34]

ken34 u don't understand nothin.i just recently beat pc chris 4 the first time eva.2 me itz a huge accomplishment n who plays wit dk?i'll wait 4 u 2 tell me.i learn how 2 play by myself no one taught me.the only thing people told me was wavedashin n shield dashin everything i had 2 pratice that myself.if u can't learn 2 do things urself u r weak.i'm not greedy nor conceited but i'm not about 2 just give up tips that i pratice myself 4 free.if so ask m2k or ken or isai or wes n see if they would teach u things lol.highly doubt it.all u got 2 do is train n dedicated urself 2 winnin.thatz wat i do.i analyze on the player.anyway my aol name is oni163 if anyone eva wanna play sum matches message me on there

I have a friend that plays DK. so theres ur answer on that. im not saying you have to depend on anyone, cause i didnt depend on anyone myself, i learned how to wavedash and all that stuff by myself and from watchin vids, i didnt go to a bi-weekly and say, "hey, im lazy and just want you to feed everything to me", cause i didnt, last bi-weekly i went to, i didnt ask anyone a single question, even though i had just started playing the game like 2 weeks prior to it back in feburary. all im saying is, if someone DOES ask you for advice/tips, IMO you should always answer to the call, now if it looks like they are not even trying for themselves, THEN you refuse them, but IMo, you should always help the next man, it helps make more competitors for the game you play, and adds more fun, hence keeping the community rolling strong...if you disagree with that, then i dont know what to say....

 

[Legendaryhero]

im gonna try and clear this up... what bum is trying to say is that he has secrets that he has learned with his character that give him the edge. its the same deal as how PC won't play his falco in freindlies. he needs to have a competative edge and if he goes around showing every nobody how he plays and wins he has nothing... its hard enough for a DK player to get noticed as it is. i know what ur saying ken and its not wrong but there are just things that u don't teach people in this game. im sure that if u go up to bum and say hey how did u do a certain technique u did he won't shove u off but if u ask him to sit you down and move ur fingers for you thats a different story. he just wants to keep his style his style and not drop it off to every single player

 

[BUM163]

i do disagree cuz i'm entitled 2 my own opinion n if i wanna give advice i do n if i don't i don't.listen whether i give advice or not is not gonna make the commuinty stronger.only they can do that themselves n if i give them advice they can take it as bullcrap n break em down even more cuz they'll think i'll take em as a joke.smash community is 2 strong 4 dumb stuff like that.smash community is obviously a very strong one regardless of wat happens reason being,when i lose i don't b like ahh man thatz it 4 me n u know wat this goes 4 alot of people they don't quit they try 2 come bak stronger n better than wat they was the last tournament wit or witout advice.so far from wat i see u the only one complainin on here.

 

[BUM163]

sorry 4 the double post but legendary hero said it better than me lol good stuff

 

[Ken34]

im gonna try and clear this up... what bum is trying to say is that he has secrets that he has learned with his character that give him the edge. its the same deal as how PC won't play his falco in freindlies. he needs to have a competative edge and if he goes around showing every nobody how he plays and wins he has nothing... its hard enough for a DK player to get noticed as it is. i know what ur saying ken and its not wrong but there are just things that u don't teach people in this game. im sure that if u go up to bum and say hey how did u do a certain technique u did he won't shove u off but if u ask him to sit you down and move ur fingers for you thats a different story. he just wants to keep his style his style and not drop it off to every single player

well, that i can understand, BUM didnt explain it like that, i thought it was more of a tecnique thing, sorry for the mis interpretation.

@BUM
if u think im complaining, you can think that, just because someone asks for advice, doesnt mean they arent trying thier best to be better in the game, it doesnt mean they give up when they loose a tourny...I dont see why you look at my opinion as a "crybaby" opinion, and someone who is not trying, because that is not the case. ive already stated before, i never took handouts from no one, i took my whoopings like a man at the bi-weekly in feburary, didnt ask for help, and im learning more as i play, but all i was saying, maybe there are others who need a little insight to get more accustomed to high level play, im not saying give them your strategies, but give them small tips that can help them find the rest themselves, no need to brush them off...

 

[Sensei]

you can do whatever you want. i charge advice for food in ssb xP

 

[dmbrandon]

you can do whatever you want. i charge advice for food in ssb xP

That's because you're better than pretty much EVERYONE.

But yeah, alot of higher ranked players Like Wife, Husband, HugS, Ken, etc charge for lessons. There was a huge debate on this over on mlgpro.com like year ago.

And with Bum being on a comparable level with these players, though I disagree, he DOES have a solid right to charge for his input. I charged for THPS combostring layouts, and balance technique. Being pro has advantages, and some, like myself, choose to exploit them.

However, Bum, This biweekly is friendly (Loud) atmosphere, with a person asking for tips during one or two matches. Not a lesson. If you sat down 1v1 for an hour, and really discussed the game and it's finer points, while coaching, then perhaps a 20-25$ per hour pricetag could be put on.

But this is assuming you understand Mindgames to the point where you could teach them. I know Wife and Husband had some success with this, as they're both licensed teachers in something or other. Where as you, to my knowledge, are just a smasher.

Also, I know FOR A FACT that M2K will hang out and play with you for hours, and though he may not be the greatest teacher, he will improve your game, so long as you aren't a slow learner/*******. And to be honest, no one knows the game like M2K. He's ranked top 10 in the world, and he's plain beast.

C-C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER. (It was a combo, trust me.)

 

[DCScribZ]

::slams on the brakes::

Oookay, I'm just going to bring this badboy back to where it is supposed to be.
(TSA Biweekly?)

As a new smasher, I am all for this idea. Not that I am all that good or anything, but my singles tournament experience lasted REAL long when my first match was against Inui, and my third was against Reik. Brutal. I felt like Duke this year in the tourney.

But I also would see where ranked players should get their own tourney, if time restraints allow. (I'm not sure how though, it feels like we are pressed for time as it is) I think it would be quality to have like a 16 - or so - player tourney, and it would be awesome to watch.

However, if the ranked players are fine just being able to play in the doubles tourney, mm's, and friendlies, then let's go for it.

 

[BUM163]

yup very true.all i wish 2 do is let people know u can play wit any character n bust *** no matter who it is.thatz all i wanna do 2 change the game.just cuz u ranked don't mean u a beast cuz theres underground people that r monsters n they not ranked.

 

[dmbrandon]

yup very true.all i wish 2 do is let people know u can play wit any character n bust *** no matter who it is.thatz all i wanna do 2 change the game.just cuz u ranked don't mean u a beast cuz theres underground people that r monsters n they not ranked.

qft. Well put.

I'm all for the unranked tourn. I'm out of practice, and I'm sure I don't wanna spend 5$ to get beat, like I could in friendlies for free.

I know when I start a tourn, I'll have a better chance against scribs, and Cradmazy then I would against LK (sandbagging or not.) or Cactuar (again, sandbagging, or not.)

 

[Warrior of Zarona]

Even though we're not having crews this time around, let me make this clear.

For crew battles, you're paying for 5 people in your crew to enter. Technically, you can put any member of the crew you want - you'll have to give us the list of names and characters from those who are in attendance. From there, feel free to mix and match. Think of it mainly as paying for 5 chances to win in a crew battle, and if you have more than 5, you can choose at any top who goes when.

However, if you pay for 5, then you need to play for 5. You can't remove one of those slots because it's what you registered for. The same when paying for 4 - you can't add another member in to make it 5 if that's not what you paid for. If you can't follow through with it, you'll have to forfeit.

That's a warning to you guys - if you paid for 4 or 5 man crews, you're going to play with either 4 people or 5 people that can participate. No exceptions, especially if we're well into the event. I heard from TSA about several crews making excuses about it, so let's settle it now.

It doesn't matter whether or not you feel like you're playing well. If you can't play, then you lose your match and move on.

I was a little irked by that, guys. Even though this is a biweekly, this is also a competition. Once you pay for a ticket, you need to stick around for the show. Man up, folks.

 

[dmbrandon]

I was a little irked by that, guys. Even though this is a biweekly, this is also a competition. Once you pay for a ticket, you need to stick around for the show. Man up, folks.

Not to be a nay say, but shouldn't they be allowed to do whatever they want, once they've paid? I mean, they didn't ask for their money back, and they played all their matches. I commend them for that. Most smashers would've cause a big scene, made a thousand johns, and left soon after.

They were calm about it, though pissed. They played friendlies and stayed til the end.

 

[Warrior of Zarona]

They didn't pay to enter the house - they paid to enter a specific event, and that event has rules. Once you've entered, you're obligated to follow them or risk getting DQ'ed.

Some of those crews had one person play twice because someone in their crew didn't want to play anymore. Is that fair for other crews?

 

[Oorah-Kabra]

Now then, when you register for crews, say 5 people.... only the specified 5 people can play correct? In other words, we are not able to register 7, pay for 5 and then if we need a tactical situation switch one of the registered players who didnt play in right? It is register 5 pay for 5 and only those 5 play..

 

[Warrior of Zarona]

No. A crew pays for 20 stocks, then decides whether or not they want to do 4 spots or 5 spots. Those spots can be filled with anyone who is in your crew, even if the crew itself has a greater number.

For example, if you paid for 5 spots, and have 7 man crew, you can choose whoever from those 7 to play in your 5 spots, and you can mix and match whatever you want.

Generally, a crew captain already has a primary roster of players who are their starters, and alternates in case the starters can't make it, or if the captain simply chooses to substitute. It's all about team building and the like. Picking 4 or 5 spots is also part of the strategy because of the stock count - you can get one extra stock if you go 4, or one extra player if you go 5.

If you have 5 great players in your crew, then you're good to go with 5. However, if you feel like you only have 4 amazing players in your crew, but the rest of the members aren't quite up to par, you're better off giving your last 4 stocks to those 4 players instead of wasting them on a decent player that can potentially lose the game for you. In other words, those 4 stocks are wasted and could have been used on the first 4 players.

All of this is part of your strategy well before the crews even begin - you'll have to decide right at registration which way you want to go.

The standard right now is only 4 or 5 people. We may add some extra options in there, but generally, this is what is being tested at the moment. We may make it so that you have to decide how many spots you want to use right before the crew battle, instead of only at registration.

 

[Oorah-Kabra]

That sounds much more strategical to me. See I thought it was supposed to be this way, yet for some reason was under the impression that we were only doing it the other way. Thanks for the clarification.

 

[Warrior of Zarona]

Whoa whoa. I just had a brilliant idea.

How about we start doing "Ratio Crew Battles?" You might be asking, "How does that work?"

Generally, you'll pay for 20 stocks, and you need a minimum of 4 people in a crew. From there, you can use your stocks however you want with as many people that you want to use provided you have that many and as long as it fits your 20 stock budget.

Before entering the match, the crew captain tells the judge how many stocks they are wagering on the players that are entering a match. You can only choose between 1 to 5 stocks per player, but this allows for greater customization when it comes to choosing players as well as carefully choosing how much stock they're going to play with. Maybe we can even leave open the idea of allowing the Crew Captain to refill the stocks of the remaining player in the match using whatever stocks they have left, though this is probably something I'll limit or give rules to. For example, in TSA, it might be something like give Cactuar 4 stocks to play with, give WoZ 3 stocks to play with, give Sensei 2 stocks to play with, and then the rest of TSA 1 stock each, giving all 14 members of TSA a chance to play with the 20 stock I have. That, of course, is just an example, and realistically, I really wouldn't do it like that. However, it's something I'll probably refine and want to use.

 

[BUM163]

thatz hot that can b use 2 play i also had a new game also but i neva released it

 

[Emblem Lord]

Less talk about Bum's philosophy on what it takes to be a good smasher and more talk about my unranked tourney idea. I need more input.

Luck: What can I say? Play the people that WILL help you. Namely M2k. There's a guy that will wtf own you in the face and then explain to you what you did wrong.

 

[Atomsk_92]

OK so far Inui, LK, Skag(from what i know) and me are in for it EL

 

[Inui]

**** straight OOOAODUOAJDLAHARAH i feel the same way i think that there are some of us who may be clawing away at those bottom spots in the power ranking some people who come to mind are urself, jfox, mog, i think people just don't get to see these guys perform because either they have too easy a match or too difficult a match for their caliber every time they play in tourny.

Atomsk, NJ'zFinest, Treble, Bass > those people. Sorry to burst your bubble. =/

 

[Atomsk_92]

you forgot dot eater inui

btw legendary

in my first round matches at tornaments

i've played chu, p.c., plarink. just to name a few. No one has gotten more gayed than me

 

[Inui]

He's not PA?

If he's NJ, then yeah, he > those people.

 

[Emblem Lord]

That was also another thing I wanted to see. The potential of those that aren't ranked and get consistently gayed out by brackets.

 

[Magus420]

Consistently place lower in pools and you get more difficult brackets early on. That's not getting gayed out by brackets. That's just how the seeding system works.

 

[Atomsk_92]

Consistently place lower in pools and you get more difficult brackets early on. That's not getting gayed out by brackets. That's just how the seeding system works.

i only lost to chu so in turn i faced plarink I lost to P.C. i had to face Woz
Magus thats called getting gayed